Rate My First Platinum Team

gasbait

This is my first chance at trying to get involved in the Platinum metagame, so please excuse me if I overlook a threat, or make a team in the D/P metagame mindset. :naughty:


Metagross @ Occa Berry
Clear body
Evs: 252 HP | 232 Atk | 12 Def | 12 Spe
Nature: Adamant [+Atk, -SpA]
Ability: Clear Body
- Bullet Punch
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Stealth Rock

I saw this metagross lead in a previous RMT (credits to the owner) and I found it very effective against a variety of other leads.
His mixture of hard hitting attacks and bullet punch, allows him to take down suicide leads such as aerodactyl and Azelf, very well. The
occa berry is used so I can survive an initial fire attack from pokes like infernape and heatran, and then mash their face in....literally.
Stealth rock is also needed, so Lucario can ohko the things he needs too, when he cleans up the game.





Rotom H @Leftovers
Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/170 Def/88 SpAttk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Reflect
- Overheat
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave

Rotom has a variety of functions in my team, he is both a spin blocker, an annoyer, my scizor counter, and probably a lot of other things that dont come to mind. His reflect helps add to the bulkiness of my team, and his attacks do some modest damage. I opt for the Heat form of Rotom, because my pokemon have a slight "thing" withfire, and he seems like a reliable switch in. Im deciding whether I should just replace thunderbolt and Wave for discharge, but this set seems more useful.

Gyarados @Leftovers
Adamant
Intimidate
156 HP / 108 Atk / 100 Def / 144 Spe

~Dragon Dance
~Taunt
~Waterfall
~Stone edge

Covers most of metagroses weaknesses, and his intimidate is useful in a variety of places. I opt for a bulkydos, becausegyarados function is not really to sweep a team, but make a dent in my opponents team for lucario. He basically helps deal withGliscor, who is apparrently lucarios mortal enemy.

Tyranitar@Choice Band
Adamant
Sandstream
176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Spe

~Crunch
~Pursuit
~Aqua Tail
~Stone Edge

My revenge killer and heavy hitter. His main role is to kill the wretches who dare to faint one of my teammates. I opt for aqua tail
because I needed someway to stop the bulky grounds that would otherwise wall me completely, (like a certain hippo) he also manages to add a little more dents into my opponents team. Sandstorm also benefits a good deal of my team, and further chips away at my opponents health



Dragonite@Life Orb
Rash
Inner Focus
112 Atk / 200 SpA / 196 Spe

~Super Power
~Draco Meteor
~Fire Blast
~Thunderbolt

Why have I decided with mixnite? Im glad you asked, the answer is because I needed a wallbreaker of sorts (Besides Lucario) and to further insure my chance of a clean Lucario Sweep. I opt for Thunderbolt because I needed a way to damage the likes of gyarados and suicune. I am however, still deciding on whether or not to use roost, since life orb and most likely sandstorm, will be chipping away at his health; but then again dragonites only real function is to give one final attack before lucario comes in.


Lucario @Life orb
Inner Focus
Adamant
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

~ Sword Dance
~ Extremespeed
~ Close Combat
~ Stone Edge

Well, if everything has worked out like planned, my team should have the likeliness of a sponge. That is when lucario here, comes and cleans up the mess. I opt for stone edge, because I believe all my other pokemons can deal with gliscor for me, and I wanted to make sure to get a SE on gyaradoses. All the other moves are staple, but then again theirs a reason for that eh?

Well theres my team, any opinions/criticism is welcome >>
 
Hey, that Metagross is from me isn't it? =P

I hate to do this since I love Dragonite but Salamence really outclasses it with the exact same set (well, Earthquake over Superpower and Outrage over Thunderbolt). It has higher defense thanks to Intimidate and has higher speed and Sp.Atk. I would go for MixMence from the Smogon Analysis instead of Dragonite.

Also, I prefer the Rotom-H set: Thunderbolt/Shadow Ball/Will-O-Wisp/Overheat. I think the added damage and longer lasting effect (permanent unless they cure it) of WoW can make it better than Reflect in the longrun. Shadow Ball is a great STAB move and has decent type coverage when paired with Thunderbolt.
 
Bribes said:
Hey, that Metagross is from me isn't it? =P

I hate to do this since I love Dragonite but Salamence really outclasses it with the exact same set (well, Earthquake over Superpower and Outrage over Thunderbolt). It has higher defense thanks to Intimidate and has higher speed and Sp.Atk. I would go for MixMence from the Smogon Analysis instead of Dragonite.

Also, I prefer the Rotom-H set: Thunderbolt/Shadow Ball/Will-O-Wisp/Overheat. I think the added damage and longer lasting effect (permanent unless they cure it) of WoW can make it better than Reflect in the longrun. Shadow Ball is a great STAB move and has decent type coverage when paired with Thunderbolt.
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I disagree. MixNite is NOT outclassed by MixMence. MixMence is forced to Outrage to beat Blissey, while Nite can just OHKO her without a second thought. Keep the Dragonite.
 
Just a few things to say for right now:

Your T-tar does what your gyarados and lucario do combined which to an extent renders him userless, especially if you give lucario crunch instead of stone edge (half your team runs stone edge, lol), like you should.

Test this:

- first off, give your luke crunch
- try giving rotom will-o-wisp instead of t-wave
- change your t-tar to another band user (I'm thinking machamp or physical / life orb infernape)
- use a mixape set with roost

That's what I would test, and go from there.

gl w/ your team

Edit: That's true erazor, but lucario can already do that (and with my changes, so can infernape / machamp)
 
Unfortunately, I do not agree with the advice given to me by you.

1. I do not understand why I should give my lucario crunch. My tyranitar completely shuts down notable ghost types such as gengar with pursuit and etc. Second, Stone edge is needed to score a SE hit against a gyarados, which I find a lot more important.

2. I find that thunderwave is more beneficial to my team then willowisp. The mixture of speed decrease and chance of paralysis benefits my team more, since lucario will be able to outspeed everything. Not only that, thunderwave is a lot more accurate then will o wisp, and I find it more reliable to work with

3. Tyranitar serves many functions in my team. His sandstorm benefits my team by chipping away at my opponents health, and serving as a latias counter so she cannot demolish my team.

4. Mixape has no place in my team

5. Gyarados intimidates is very effective on my team, not only that he is the only one that can fight gliscor effectively, something that is of utmost important to a lucario sweep. So I hardly find that he is "useless" and I find it odd you would state tyranitar can do what lucario and gyarados can do, because it is really not true.

6. Machamp has no place in team. Tyranitar acts as both a heavy hitter, sandstormer, latias counter, and revenge killer. Machamp can only do one of these perks, and I do not find it a suitable substitute

7. I use dragonite for super power.
 
How do you deal with Glisor if you have no Ice moves on your team? Changing Fire Blast on Dragonite to Ice Beam will solve that. Rotom-H can handel any remaining Steels.
 
crynts said:
How do you deal with Glisor if you have no Ice moves on your team? Changing Fire Blast on Dragonite to Ice Beam will solve that. Rotom-H can handel any remaining Steels.
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No. Ice Beam has extremely redundant coverage with Dragon Stab, and completely changes MixNite. Do not use Ice Beam.
Gliscor is handled by Tyranitar's Aqua Tail, Gyarados, and Draco Meteor.
 
gasbait said:
Unfortunately, I do not agree with the advice given to me by you.

1. I do not understand why I should give my lucario crunch. My tyranitar completely shuts down notable ghost types such as gengar with pursuit and etc. Second, Stone edge is needed to score a SE hit against a gyarados, which I find a lot more important.

2. I find that thunderwave is more beneficial to my team then willowisp. The mixture of speed decrease and chance of paralysis benefits my team more, since lucario will be able to outspeed everything. Not only that, thunderwave is a lot more accurate then will o wisp, and I find it more reliable to work with

3. Tyranitar serves many functions in my team. His sandstorm benefits my team by chipping away at my opponents health, and serving as a latias counter so she cannot demolish my team.

4. Mixape has no place in my team

5. Gyarados intimidates is very effective on my team, not only that he is the only one that can fight gliscor effectively, something that is of utmost important to a lucario sweep. So I hardly find that he is "useless" and I find it odd you would state tyranitar can do what lucario and gyarados can do, because it is really not true.

6. Machamp has no place in team. Tyranitar acts as both a heavy hitter, sandstormer, latias counter, and revenge killer. Machamp can only do one of these perks, and I do not find it a suitable substitute

7. I use dragonite for super power.
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Actually, I said T-tar was to an extent useless, not gyarados. lol
I already know you use nite for superpower. Is CC from lucario not enough for you?

Crunch is so you're not walled by celebi, rotom, cress, dusknoir, etc, since stone edge without STAB and shaky accuracy just isn't worth it. Gyarados has stone edge anyways.

Sand Stream isn't only bad for your opponent you know, lol
Life orb and Weather is going to be annoying for your nite.

Latias isn't a huge problem for your team.
Or at least it wouldn't be, if you had crunch on your lucario.
Or an actual ghost-type move on rotom, like shadow ball, lol
Or just draco meteor / ice beam from dragonite, if you're desperate.

If you want to keep your T-tar so badly, why don't you make it different from your other physical sweeps?
I would give it Fire Punch / Earthquake.
However, stone edge is obviously a powerful stab move you'd want to keep, so I would take out at least one move and put in earthquake, because you really need a ground move. Gyarados can use waterfall, so I don't think you need aqua tail.
OR, you could change your other two physical sweepers a bit.

But anyways, that's my advice, take it our leave it. :D
 
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