"Feeble creatures of flesh...Your time is nigh!" ~ A RMT

MegaMaiden

Aright, this time I made a team of full offense but still has some bulk. This team is able to resist all types (except for electric), take the hit, survive, then sweep.



Team at a glance:
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In-depth:

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Metagross @ Occa Berry
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Hp / 242 Atk / 16 Speed
Moves:
~ Stealth Rock
~ Bullet Punch
~ Earthquake
~ Meteor Mash

~ The usual anti-lead gross. The reason I didn't put explosion is because I may need to keep Metagross to sweep later in the game. Occa Berry prevents Infernape and Heartan from OHKOing me. Since Hypnosis leads aren't as common, Occa berry is the way to go. The reason my Speed EVs are different is to outspeed the usual metagross leads.


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Starmie @ Choice Specs
Nature: Timid
EVs: 6 Hp / 252 Sp Atk / 252 Speed
Moves:
~ Surf
~ Thunderbolt / Ice Beam
~ Rapid Spin
~ Trick

~ Specs Starmie. This thing is also my rapid spinner and can come back late-game to use trick and scrub up some special wall. The reason I ran this set instead of the normal rapid spinner set is because I'm using Starmie as a Machamp counter at the same time. Machamp can give my team some problems.


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Heatran @ Choice Specs
Nature: Modest
EVs: 40 Hp / 252 Sp Atk / 216 Speed
Moves:
~ Overheat
~ EarthPower
~ HP Grass
~ Dragon Pulse

~ My teams actual special sweeper. Overheat coming from this thing is stronger than SpecsMence's Draco Meteor. HP grass is always there to get rid of those swamperts since it walls the rest of my team. Dragon Pulse for those Dragon types (especially kingdra).



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Scizor @ LifeOrb
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 224 Hp / 252 Atk / 32 Speed
Moves:
~ Swords Dance
~ Bullet Punch
~ SuperPower
~ Roost / U-turn / X-scissor

~ A great finisher indeed. SD Bullet Punch easily KOs a lot of pokemon when they're weakened. Last slot can be used to hit cresselia and celebi, because I hate both of them.


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Latias @ Light Clay
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 Hp / 6 Def / 252 Speed
Moves:
~ Reflect
~ Light Screen
~ Wish
~ Roar / Dragon Pulse / Sareguard

~ Alright, I figured I need some sort of a wish passer since my team isn't that defensive. But wait- this set also passes screens! Definitely beneficial since I dont have actual walls.


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Zapdos @ Choice Scarf
Nature: Timid / Modest
EVs: 80 Hp / 252 Sp Atk / 176 Speed
Moves:
~ Thunderbolt
~ Heatwave
~ HP Ice
~ U-turn

~ My team's revenge killer. He easily outspeed +1 Speed Gyardos/Salamence and OHKO back with Thunderbolt/HP Ice. Zapdos also counters Scizor (althuogh Heatran does it better) and also good against SubPunch Breloom. He's also my answer to SD Lucario.


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Thank you for rating my team!
 
Having that Zapdos as your only answer to SD Lucario isn't a good idea:

+2 LO ExtremeSpeed vs 80/0 Zapdos: 74.5 - 87.7%

That's an OHKO with SR 94% of the time, and really isn't a risk you want to be taking when the rest of your team can't really stand up to it either. With your two Specs users, Lucario doesn't have much trouble grabbing a Swords Dance on a Specs locked Dragon Pulse or HP Grass, or Rapid Spin. After that, it OHKOes Metagross, Heatran, and Scizor with Close Combat, Starmie and Zapdos with ExtremeSpeed, and Latias with Crunch + ExtremeSpeed even if it is behind a Reflect. Right now, all your team really can do is use Latias to get up a Reflect, while dying in the process, and hope to beat Lucario that way. Since it often doesn't show up till late game, generally your Pokemon will be weakened at this point and this is a very risky strategy as it is. This is quite a significant weakness to Lucario, and I think you should change your team around a bit to help with it.

Firstly, scarf Zapdos is generally inferior to scarf Rotom. Zapdos has higher SpA and Speed, but its typing lets it down on account of its SR weakness, which doesn't let it switch in as much as it would like. You do have Rapid Spin on Starmie but you can't really rely on it too much with the ghosts running around, as well as the fact that rapid spin is coming from a specsed set. Your Zapdos isn't going to be outspeeding Salamence with that spread anyway, and Rotom can outspeed Gyarados too, which is why I really think replacing Zapdos with Rotom is a good idea:

Rotom-H @ Choice Scarf | Modest | 28 HP / 252 SpA / 228 Spe
Overheat / Thunderbolt / Shadow Ball / Trick

The reason Rotom is better than Zapdos here is because of its immunity to ExtremeSpeed, meaning it can come into Lucario without risk as it SDs and then take it out with Overheat without suffering a scratch. Rotom can also use Trick to cripple Blissey, which can make life a lot easier for your Heatran since Blissey can't stall him out when it's forced to choose between Softboiled and Thunder Wave, for example. The Speed EVs let Rotom outrun +speed base 130s (as well as +1 adamant gyarados), and the rest can be split between HP and SpA depending on how offensive or defensive you want it to be.

I would consider dropping Choice Specs from Starmie and going for Life Orb instead, and replacing Trick with either Recover or the other of Thunderbolt / Ice Beam. Having Rotom with Trick means you don't have to use Starmie to cripple Blissey, and being able to switch moves and make the most of Starmie's movepool is greatly beneficial to it. Even with just LO, Surf is still a guaranteed 2HKO against 252/0 Rotom-A, meaning if it comes in predicting a Rapid Spin it will easily be killed off. Having one less choice user on the team is a good thing imo - it means that less things can set up on you, e.g. a Salamence DDing once you revenge killed Infernape with Surf.

All the best for your team :).
 
The team looks pretty good, and I think LR touched on most of the points, however, if you aren't looking for a revenge killer who is weak to Pursuit(Rotom-A), you can use Flygon, who has Dragon Claw/Outrage to deal with Salamence, and ThunderPunch for Gyarados. His biggest assetts over Zapdos are his great dual STAB, and resistance to Stealth Rock. His biggest benefit over Rotom-A includes both, as well as no Pursuit weak AND U-Turn.
 
Legacy Raider said:
Having that Zapdos as your only answer to SD Lucario isn't a good idea:

+2 LO ExtremeSpeed vs 80/0 Zapdos: 74.5 - 87.7%

That's an OHKO with SR 94% of the time, and really isn't a risk you want to be taking when the rest of your team can't really stand up to it either. With your two Specs users, Lucario doesn't have much trouble grabbing a Swords Dance on a Specs locked Dragon Pulse or HP Grass, or Rapid Spin. After that, it OHKOes Metagross, Heatran, and Scizor with Close Combat, Starmie and Zapdos with ExtremeSpeed, and Latias with Crunch + ExtremeSpeed even if it is behind a Reflect. Right now, all your team really can do is use Latias to get up a Reflect, while dying in the process, and hope to beat Lucario that way. Since it often doesn't show up till late game, generally your Pokemon will be weakened at this point and this is a very risky strategy as it is. This is quite a significant weakness to Lucario, and I think you should change your team around a bit to help with it.

Firstly, scarf Zapdos is generally inferior to scarf Rotom. Zapdos has higher SpA and Speed, but its typing lets it down on account of its SR weakness, which doesn't let it switch in as much as it would like. You do have Rapid Spin on Starmie but you can't really rely on it too much with the ghosts running around, as well as the fact that rapid spin is coming from a specsed set. Your Zapdos isn't going to be outspeeding Salamence with that spread anyway, and Rotom can outspeed Gyarados too, which is why I really think replacing Zapdos with Rotom is a good idea:

Rotom-H @ Choice Scarf | Modest | 28 HP / 252 SpA / 228 Spe
Overheat / Thunderbolt / Shadow Ball / Trick

The reason Rotom is better than Zapdos here is because of its immunity to ExtremeSpeed, meaning it can come into Lucario without risk as it SDs and then take it out with Overheat without suffering a scratch. Rotom can also use Trick to cripple Blissey, which can make life a lot easier for your Heatran since Blissey can't stall him out when it's forced to choose between Softboiled and Thunder Wave, for example. The Speed EVs let Rotom outrun +speed base 130s (as well as +1 adamant gyarados), and the rest can be split between HP and SpA depending on how offensive or defensive you want it to be.

I would consider dropping Choice Specs from Starmie and going for Life Orb instead, and replacing Trick with either Recover or the other of Thunderbolt / Ice Beam. Having Rotom with Trick means you don't have to use Starmie to cripple Blissey, and being able to switch moves and make the most of Starmie's movepool is greatly beneficial to it. Even with just LO, Surf is still a guaranteed 2HKO against 252/0 Rotom-A, meaning if it comes in predicting a Rapid Spin it will easily be killed off. Having one less choice user on the team is a good thing imo - it means that less things can set up on you, e.g. a Salamence DDing once you revenge killed Infernape with Surf.

All the best for your team :).
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Thank you. I'll try to make those changes.

@blasphemy1: I'll give flygon a try, I'll see what happens.
 
It is so hard to rate a team after LR has gotten to it. I'll do my best though.

Like others have said, Lucario rapes you. That wouldn't be so bad, only you leave it many many oppurtunities to set up because half of your Pokemon are Choiced. Get rid of Choice Starmie for either LO Starmie or the standard Rapid Spinner. Next, change Zapdos to either defensive Zapdos or offensive Zapdos. This will help you immensly against Lucario and other set up sweeprs as well. Latias isn't helping anything much, since none of your sweepers needs to take a hit to sweep. They can all sweep on their own, and a Mamoswine's EQ or Heatran's Fire Blast will kill Heatran and Scizor anyway. I special support Latais can help you here, I suggest using Roar so you can scout the foe's team and help make better prediction. Your team would also enjoy the paralysis support since Heatran and Scizor can completely wreck then when you don't have to worry about that Infernape.

Good luck!
 
Ive read all your rates, and the best one I found is Legacy Raider's Rotom-H suggestion. So, I'll be editing this RMT now.

But here's one problem, I'm planning to use this on wifi, but I only have Diamond version. Sure Rotom-H is usable on shoddy, but how can I use it if I don't have platinum? I'll be using Rotom-H when I get platinum, but for the meantime, are there any good alternatives to Rotom-H?

EDIT: The reason I kept latias is because I need some wish/screen support. My team doesn't have real "walls", so I decided that some defense (reflect/light screen) and wish support is needed so my pokemon can stay longer. My team's defense is basically type resistance, I don't put real walls anymore.
 
Xeroscim said:
Jolteon would make a good replacement, but It trick verizon wouldn't work well, and it doesn't have a fire type move for an attack.
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Scarf Jolteon might work, since this time, it can kill both +1 Gyarados and +1 Mence. It can also absorb electric attacks which is my team's bigger weaknesses.

EDIT: I'm thinking about using porygon2 to counter Gyarados and Salamence? Is it a good idea?
 
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