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I'm locked into a Shiny Timid Feebas right now.
Parents:

A: Ditto, 31/31/31/31/x/x
B: Milotic 30/31/31/30/31/31

Now, I'm still not sure what I should do now.
Yeah, I know I need to find my delay and offset, but I'm still not sure how.

Do I take the egg, catch a pokemon, and check that poke's delay and offset? This is the part I don't really get. Do I need the offset of the egg, or the one of the caught pokemon?
 
Find intial seed from caught pokemon then check offset of egg. Do several times, try to get consistant offset. Can stand north of guy and wait for npcs to leave screen for offset of 1.

Sorry for bad grammar, on phone.
 
LightningFusion said:
Yes I mean delay. I have used odd offsets for both my breeds.
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Well, I've checked around and folks are getting odd delays, so I think it's safe to say they do not have to be even. It actually would be nice if it did count by twos. Would mean that it was running at half the frequency we expected.

Tase said:
So I'm ready to embark on my second project, and I needed to find which ability I need for a spread. I checked here for the list of abilities but Hoppip and its evolutions are not there. :\ Does anyone happen to know, or does anyone know how I could find out? (besides trial and error)
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Your best bet here is the Serebii dex. When I was breeding in Emerald I used the Smogon Analysis page for a monster (which escapes me) and the Abilities listed there turned out to not be in the correct order. As these are hand written pages for each Pokemon it does not surprise me (and I don't think having the order of the abilities "correct" was ever considered since it doesn't matter for battling.)

Pokerealm said:
I'm locked into a Shiny Timid Feebas right now.
Parents:

A: Ditto, 31/31/31/31/x/x
B: Milotic 30/31/31/30/31/31

Now, I'm still not sure what I should do now.
Yeah, I know I need to find my delay and offset, but I'm still not sure how.

Do I take the egg, catch a pokemon, and check that poke's delay and offset? This is the part I don't really get. Do I need the offset of the egg, or the one of the caught pokemon?
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Well, I am going to assume that you have already calibrated so the thing to do is to get an egg and then either find it on the list of adjacent spreads (see update to Jonnys guide in the OP) or you can scent a pokemon and then switch to "Breeding (DPPt)" after you get the initial seed and look for the egg. For IV breeding you will never care about the offset of the monster you capture.

NOTE: The OP has been updated with Jonnys guide with minor edits and mention of the "Generate Adjacent Results" option. At this point there are no screen shots or anything fancy, as we really need to get feedback (and even some questions) about the methods so we can make that area as good as it can be. And then there is the possibility someone out there will discover some ways to make this even easier.
 
mingot said:
Your best bet here is the Serebii dex. When I was breeding in Emerald I used the Smogon Analysis page for a monster (which escapes me) and the Abilities listed there turned out to not be in the correct order. As these are hand written pages for each Pokemon it does not surprise me (and I don't think having the order of the abilities "correct" was ever considered since it doesn't matter for battling.)
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I think I recall being disappointed to find out that the Serebii dex isn't always correct either.
 
Then I guess our best bet is going to be X-Acts on site list, although it seems to be missing a Pokemon. Also, the next version of RNG Reporter will list abilities as 0 or 1 for parity with that list since I think it is the best thing going. I will look for an appropriate place to link it in the OP.
 
When looking for the egg's seed in the Time Finder, do you look for the correct date\time, or the seed that matches the one you got from the wild Pokemon? I'm having an easy time finding seeds and delays that match the wild Pokemon, but the dates are off.

For instance, I got the seed 50080278 with a delay of 623 from the Seed Finder. I plugged in an offset of 2 and got that same seed with the same delay from the Time Finder. However, the date (4\20) and time (8:00) doesn't match what it was at the time of the reset (4\15; I forgot the time but I think it was 8:07).
 
Well multiple combinations of dates and times can produce the same seed so that might be what you are seeing, but I think you might be going about this wrong. The thing to do is to use time finder to locate something (an IV spread) that you want to hit and then to set your DS clock appropriately. If, after this, you go to seed finder to verify with a wild pokemon you caught after getting the egg you will be entering the correct Date/Time so at that point there should be a match.

Or I could be misunderstanding the question.
 
I have something interesting that might be obvious but couldn't we use an everstone to cut down the amount of taps?
 
Tri-DarkSouls said:
I have something interesting that might be obvious but couldn't we use an everstone to cut down the amount of taps?
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Not really. It would go to the next one with the nature. The nature of the shiny might be also the nature of one 24 ahead of it. Once you make sure there are no previous ones with the same nature, it could work, but it only really gets rid of 1 or 2 double taps, not likely 50+.
 
if one of my pokemon are fainted, the happiness app still advances the rng by 6x2=12 right?
trying yo figure out wher ei messed my 488 tap up
 
Dig-kun said:
What do u mean by 8 SIDs?
are there more than one SID?
=o
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If you use a wild-caught shiny to find your SID, there will be eight different possible numbers your SID could be. All eight are functionally identical for finding your shinies, so just pick your favorite (or easiest to remember).
 
Just got a perfect Hippopottas in Diamond. Thank You Mingot and Johnny. I did it without an AR it took me around an hour to get it. 8 minutes per reset. Hatched at Sandgem Town. :P
 
I'm currently running a bunch of searches to find a Month/Year that can give me a sextuple 31 spread that only inherits from one parent with offset 3, delay 595-605ish. I tried altering my offsets down to 1 because I found a spread for that, but just couldn't seem to get the offset the few times I tried
 
I'm getting the hang of this...

I can consistently get the same spreads over and over again, just not the ones I want... lol

I can get the timing and the delay spot on most of the times but I need to work on the offset... Anyone got a tip?

If I pull this off then I'll try to explain my approach on it.
 
I've had consistent offsets on individual saves, but I have yet to get an offset of 1 like I've been aiming for. Not sure why. LF suggests waiting for all NPCs to walk off the screen, then saving to get an offset of 1 for that save, but I've tried the same and gotten an offset of 2-4 each time. Short version, I'm having the same problem as you pal.
 
Calibrate shmalibrate. The offset's 8! It's 5! 7! It's bad enough when you have to change the date and the offset changes, but it could at least stay the same.
 
Fun fact for anyone that doesn't know: increasing the year by one reduces the delay for all spreads by one, and decreasing the year by one increases the delays by 1. It's a monster of a search, but if you know what delay you usually hit, you can increase your range on the top end by the number of years between 2099 and your current year, and on the lower end by the difference between the current year and 2000. Then just adjust the year to make the spread fall in your usual delay range. It's a quick way to search one month in every year for a specific spread.
 
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