Day of Dragons (OU RMT)

[AznSeal]

The Team

This is my second RMT. I've lurked for a while and i used to play a lot of pokemon on the handhelds. I recently started Shoddy and the freedom of instant pokes was really cool. I've never had a chance to battle to the fullest potential without IV/time constraints getting in the way and now i'm hooked on Shoddy. I tried to make this team a bulky offense team that can deal a lot of damage quickly. I've tested this team for a few weeks and i liked the results. I got the lame name from the fact that 3 of my main sweepers are all "dragons" albeit not of the dragon type. So without further adeu....

Changes in Pink ;D

Gun
Metagross@Occa Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252Hp / 218 Atk/ 12Def / 28 Spe
Adamant Nature
Meteor Mash
Bullet Punch
Earth Quake
Explosion
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His nickname is Gun because Guns kill people and so does he >_> haha lame... :( Basically his job is to do some damage. Most people suspect him to be the SRer and try to taunt. Others don't know i have an occa berry and try to send in Heatran/Infernape and get the EQ+BP treatment. His 4 attack moves give him great coverage against common leads. Against other Metagrosses, i EQ and hope i'm faster. If not, i switch to Swampert. Aerodactyl=lol. This thing shreds Azelfs, tyranitars, basically a lot of leads with MM+BP. I even had 2 attack raises once with MM and sweeped lol. Explosion is to take out a bulky poke that switches in (Machamp, Swampert, etc) and it can also end Gross with a bang. He's almost gaurenteed a kill with a high chance for more ;D

Assassin
Scizor@Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 242 Hp / 252 Atk, 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
Bullet Punch
Super Power
U-Turn
Pursuit
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The killer. He's my clean-up crew. He's the best revenge killer IMO. STAB+Technician+CBed bullet punch hurts. Super Power is to 1 hit the Blisseys. U-turn to 1 hit celebi and to make a huge dent on all psychics and gives me a chance to retreat. Pursuit is fabulous against ghosts. Yeah, i'm sure y'all have seen enough scizors to know its powers.

Mudkipz
Swampert@Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 Hp/ 216 Def/ 52 SpA
Bold Nature
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Stealth Rock
Mirror Coat
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I'm os bad at nicknames >_> He's my SRer. Hydro Pump over Surf to score some 2 hit KOs. Ice beam for Dragons. Mirror Coat for a lot of the Rotom that switches in and tries to shadow ball. Yeah, Mirror coat surprises people but i may switch it to EQ or Roar. Pretty good bulky water. Lightning immune is also great for if i have gyara out and they try to TB me.

Bahamut
Salamence@Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Hp/ 180 Def/ 76 Spe
Jolly Nature
Outrage
Earth Quake
Roost
Dragon Dance


Yeah, Bulkymence. He outstalls people with roost and can DD while stalling. I got the EV spread from here because it makes sense. He wrecks havoc and is one of my main sweepers. Outrage for rediculous STABed damage on anything that doesn't resist. EQ for the coverage and Roost for the added bulk.
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Blue
Gyarados@Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 156 HP / 108 Atk / 100 SpD / 144 Spe
Adamant Nature
Waterfall
Stone Edge
Taunt
Dragon Dance
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Oh so sexy. I switched some recommended EVs around based on what i've faced. Waterfall+Ice Fang for some mad hax. Well, nvm, i looked at it and zapdos coverage is really important because i get owned by them. Switched Ice fang with Stone edge, bye bye mad hax :(
Gyarados used Ice Fang.
It's not very effective...
Vaporeon lost 16% of its health.
Vaporeon flinched!
Vaporeon's taunt wore off!
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Gyarados used Ice Fang.
It's not very effective...
Vaporeon lost 16% of its health.
Vaporeon flinched!
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Gyarados used Ice Fang.
It's not very effective...
Vaporeon lost 17% of its health.
Vaporeon was frozen solid!
Vaporeon is frozen solid!
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Gyarados used Ice Fang.
It's not very effective...
Vaporeon lost 28% of its health.
Vaporeon was defrosted!
Vaporeon flinched!

^True story. Taunt+DD up and sweep. I love switching him into Skarmories or other walls and watch him wreck teams.

Red
Latias@Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 148 Hp/ 184 SpA/ 176 Spe
Timid Nature
Dragon Pulse
Calm Mind
Recover
Refresh
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The special sweeper/wall/anchor. Latias is simply amazing. She can outstall a CMless blissey, has amazing speed, rediculous SpD, and can sweep. IMO she's the perfect pokemon. She has good tanking abilities and can set up/sweep while tanking. <3



Well that's all. My team is extremely OU but oh well >_>

 

[AznSeal]

I guess i'll make a threat list

Gross>him

Scizor easily takes care of zam with BP

MM+BP on gross usually takes care of it

Scizor+superpower. Latias can also outstall CMless ones.

One of my main problems. Prolly find a sleep mule and Ice fang?

Stall it with gyarados+taunt or MM+explode on it.

Scizor

Latias can outstall.

never had to face 1. I guess i'd just swampert it.

Outrage with mence

People still use him?

Scizor+Super power? Never had to face a lot

Swampert

Bullet punch

Hard choice. I guess i can outrage it then try for revenge kill. These give me trouble.

EQ+BP or EQ with mence.

see above^ Gyara can also kill thunderpunchless ones.

Swampert

Gives me trouble. I usually try for a revenge kill or Latias.

Explode or latias

Bullet punches from gross or scizor

Mence or my gross

Swampert

Unset up ones are easy. If setup, i try to take some outrage hits with my steels and BP it or try to tank a hit with gyarados and ice fang.

Idk *cry* i usually just trade BPs with it and hope for the best.

Gyarados loves him. taunt+DD up.

Latias can outstall.....asusming i dont get frozen or phazed. Otherwise i try to outrage. Idk, help please :(

I try to explode or Gyarados+taunt it if i can.

I leave the game. haha jokes, i uhh BP it. Idk how to specifically counter her.

Bullet Punch

Latias can outstall.

bullet punch anyone?

My WORST nightmare. I try to outstall then go for revenge kill if i can. Latias usually takes care of him though.

 

[mc2094]

Gyarados really should have SEdge over Ice Fange as in the situation you just provided, Gyarados could have just used DD a few times and the KOed with SEdge(assuming no HP[Elec]) and SEdge provides much better coverage. Being able to OHKO several Zapdos and being able to hurt enemy Gyara is always helpful. SEdge also hits Mence while Waterfall does neough damage to Flygon. You can still deal with Breloom. Just activate Sleep Clause and then taunt and proceded to DD up. Ice Fang has a low chance to flinch and having that as the only real reason is a bit redundant. If Mirror Coat is working then stick with it but most people have some pokemon that can use grass knot or a grass type move in order to OHKO pert. EQuake provides much better coverage and better in the long run imo. Maybe putting in some more speed into this team will help. GL and how about nickname 'Gross Metalgear. That's what I usually do :)

 

[AznSeal]

Gyarados really should have SEdge over Ice Fange as in the situation you just provided, Gyarados could have just used DD a few times and the KOed with SEdge(assuming no HP[Elec]) and SEdge provides much better coverage. Being able to OHKO several Zapdos and being able to hurt enemy Gyara is always helpful. SEdge also hits Mence while Waterfall does neough damage to Flygon. You can still deal with Breloom. Just activate Sleep Clause and then taunt and proceded to DD up. Ice Fang has a low chance to flinch and having that as the only real reason is a bit redundant. If Mirror Coat is working then stick with it but most people have some pokemon that can use grass knot or a grass type move in order to OHKO pert. EQuake provides much better coverage and better in the long run imo. Maybe putting in some more speed into this team will help. GL and how about nickname 'Gross Metalgear. That's what I usually do :)

TY for your advice. I used to run stone edge but celebis gave me a lot of trouble. That's one of the reasons i've decided to run ice fang xD

 

[wildfire393]

TY for your advice. I used to run stone edge but celebis gave me a lot of trouble. That's one of the reasons i've decided to run ice fang xD

Ice Fang is like a 3HKO on celebi after 1 DD with your spread, maybe 4HKO. It's only 30 base power stronger super effectively than Stone Edge is neutrally. Really not worth tanking your ability to hurt bulky waters and other gyaras as well as anything that resists water and is neutral to ice.

 

[Il Mostro]

Mm..
Did we play together on Warcraft III today?( Garena )
lol.
Your name seems very familiar.

On to the team ,
Swampert would want Earthquake like mc2094 said.
Swampert wouldn't do anything to Tyranitar's massive Special Defense and Swampert would have no chance in stopping Lucario.

I'd recommend Dragon Claw over Outrage as Bulky Mence would really not want to lock himself in to kill itself.
Dragon Claw is better than Outrage is various ways except the higher base power.

Also , use 248 HP EVs on Salamence instead of 252 HP EVs and put the leftovers into Speed.
Why so ? 252 HP EVs makes you faint in the 4th switch into Stealth Rock( If i am not wrong )

Latias would want Max Speed to tie with other Latias and Gengars to fare a better chance against them.

Otherwise , pretty solid team.
But if you don't add Earthquake to Swampert , Babiri Berry DD Tyranitar will give you tons of problems.

 

[XxBlueCleric.xX]

This team is actually fairly similar to Panamaxis' OU team he posted a while ago. 5/6 pokes are the same.

The team covers the threats well and has a good amount of offense to beat Stall teams as well. Your only weakness seems to be Offensive Gyarados if it pulls off a DD (probably against Scizor), and I'm really hating the Swampert set.

I suggest you go with Hydro Pump / Stone Edge / EQ / Stealth Rock. Stone Edge hits Gyarados and still hits Dragons hard. Hydro Pump is needed because the majority of your team is walled by Skarmory. (Gyarados can really only switch in twice because skarmory can brave bird KO after that and roost off damage later)

If you really do not want to change the Swampert set, then change the nature to Bold so you can outspeed opposing swampert. You don't have any physical moves anyways.

Hope my rate was of some use.

 

[Shizzle]

Stone Edge > Ice Fang for sure, Neautral stone edge has 100 Base power, and Super Effective Ice Fang has 130 Base Power <Weak. Also, Ice Fang, waterfall leaves other gyarados to wall you and you will be taking the super effective stone edge, and dont forget zapdos. A few salamences carry yache berry, Stone edge is still a better choice as it has much better base power and similar coverage.

If you really dont like stone edge, then you might want to try replacing taunt with stone edge, however personally DD, Taunt, Waterfall, Stone Edge is the way to go.

 

[AznSeal]

This team is actually fairly similar to Panamaxis' OU team he posted a while ago. 5/6 pokes are the same.

The team covers the threats well and has a good amount of offense to beat Stall teams as well. Your only weakness seems to be Offensive Gyarados if it pulls off a DD (probably against Scizor), and I'm really hating the Swampert set.

I suggest you go with Hydro Pump / Stone Edge / EQ / Stealth Rock. Stone Edge hits Gyarados and still hits Dragons hard. Hydro Pump is needed because the majority of your team is walled by Skarmory. (Gyarados can really only switch in twice because skarmory can brave bird KO after that and roost off damage later)

If you really do not want to change the Swampert set, then change the nature to Bold so you can outspeed opposing swampert. You don't have any physical moves anyways.

Hope my rate was of some use.

Bold it is. Ty for the help. The only reason im running mirror coat is due to the increase of Rotoms i see that always switch in to counter my gross, and i switch in swampert. I'm also changing Ice fang to Stone edge.

 

[AznSeal]

Whats a good zapdos counter?

 

[haunter]

Whats a good zapdos counter?

Latias is a fine Zapdos counter, you should not have problems with it.

 

[AznSeal]

Latias is a fine Zapdos counter, you should not have problems with it.

Ok, thank you. Also I seem to not have fully unlocked Rotom's secrets yet. I always try to tank it with latias, but recently i noticed that they always switch into scizor. I then switch to gyarados, and DD but rotom still outspeeds me. Is their a link to a speed calc? or can anyone recommend the EVs needed to outrun after a DD?

 

[haunter]

Ok, thank you. Also I seem to not have fully unlocked Rotom's secrets yet. I always try to tank it with latias, but recently i noticed that they always switch into scizor. I then switch to gyarados, and DD but rotom still outspeeds me. Is their a link to a speed calc? or can anyone recommend the EVs needed to outrun after a DD?

Obviously the said Rotoms are scarfed. And if they're timid and with max speed you have no chance to outspeed them since their base speed is 86, compared to Gyarados' 81.
Anyway, most scarf Rotom are modest, so switching your Gyarados' nature to jolly, giving it at least 200 speed EVs, should ensure that you'll outspeed them, though you'll lose some bulk and will need to weaken them a bit before killing them with a DD waterfall.

 

[AznSeal]

Obviously the said Rotoms are scarfed. And if they're timid and with max speed you have no chance to outspeed them since their base speed is 86, compared to Gyarados' 81.
Anyway, most scarf Rotom are modest, so switching your Gyarados' nature to jolly, giving it at least 200 speed EVs, should ensure that you'll outspeed them, though you'll lose some bulk and will need to weaken them a bit before killing them with a DD waterfall.

k ty. and TB is a 1hit no matter what if i set EVs to outspeed, right?

 

[haunter]

k ty. and TB is a 1hit no matter what if i set EVs to outspeed, right?

Definitely yes, even with no sp.atk EVs. It's better that you play around Rotom with Latias when it switches in the first time (just beware of shadow ball), if the said Rotom is scarfed it has no way of recovering damage (barring wish passing, of course) and that means that after a few switches in it will be weakened enough due to SR damage to be finished off by a watefall. Unless you want to equip your team with a CB TTar just to pursuit them on the switch out.

 

[AznSeal]

Definitely yes, even with no sp.atk EVs. It's better that you play around Rotom with Latias when it switches in the first time (just beware of shadow ball), if the said Rotom is scarfed it has no way of recovering damage (barring wish passing, of course) and that means that after a few switches in it will be weakened enough due to SR damage to be finished off by a watefall. Unless you want to equip your team with a CB TTar just to pursuit them on the switch out.

K. thank you. I recently tested more and if i can get 1 calm mind in without a Spec. D drop from shadow ball, i can outstall their attempts to cripple with refresh while simultaneously setting up.