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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
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Amazing =) I thought that I have to hatch every Egg and level it up and check the IVs.
You could do that, but No$GBA's speed fluctuates. A lot. You're going to get inaccurate and inconsistent results for your seconds and quite possibly delays.
EDIT: Well, on second thought, maybe not that much. Just be sure not to have any other applications running in the background and you should be fine.
I've got all the legends (except Shaymin) on NO$GBA. It's not difficult, every 1/10 times I hit the delay I want.
Trying to breed a flawless pokemon but I have a problem. I couldn't find the spreads i was getting in the list with the adjacent results so I caught a pokemon to check my data. Turns out my offset is 57 (I want 3). X_x Uhh is this possible or did i screw up somewhere? And what should i do?
I know this is probably a stupid question but i really have no clue... =\
I know this is probably a stupid question but i really have no clue... =\
Are you checking the offset of caught pokes? Mostly in IV abusing "offset" refers to "frames." The actual "offset" of a caught pokemon doesn't matter at all, you're looking for the frame (or "offset") of the egg, which is determined by moving NPCs and how long you take to talk to the day care man.
Yeah, i caught a wild pokemon and checked it.
In the first post it says that i can lock in the offset by saving in front of the old man until i get the right one. But how do i find out which offset i'm locked into?
And what's the problem if not the offset? Why can't i find the spreads i get in the list?
In the first post it says that i can lock in the offset by saving in front of the old man until i get the right one. But how do i find out which offset i'm locked into?
And what's the problem if not the offset? Why can't i find the spreads i get in the list?
Please use the word frame instead of offset. What you do is save in front of old man, restart and take the egg ASAP. Then go catch a pokemon. Get the initial seed and then generate the Breeding DPPt list. Find your egg you got, and that is the frame.
Sorry if you've already answered this question but from what you said, it seemed like you didn't understand my last post (poor wording on my part). When you're talking about an offset of 57 are you talking about FRAME 57 of an egg you take? Or an offset of 57 of a wild poke you catch? Again, ignore "offset" of caught pokes, it bears no meaning in the process.
So do as you usually do, rush through the title screen as quick as possible, and also take the egg from the day-care man ASAP. Check the egg's IVs. Then find your spread--do the la-dee-da with catching a wild poke, entering its information into the "Seed Finder" and selecting it. Generating from that info will give you a list of IV spreads. The one you got will be found by noting which IVs of the parent passed and which ones didn't. So if you got a 3 in SpAtk and both parents have a 31 in SpAtk, then look for a spread (within the first 10, that's what you should be getting for egg frame) with 3 in SpAtk in RNG Reporter.
So let's say you got an offset of 8 but you're going for 5. Soft reset your game, and save again. What I always do is, I save when the Buneary in the Day-Care is on the far left (almost entirely off-screen) and then watch it walk back again. If you can't see any NPCs moving, chances are that's a good "offset point" because NPC movements advance the RNG, and you don't want that. Once you think you have a good "offset point", reset your clock to the correct time and try again. When you have a good "offset point" you should be able to trial and error until you find that every time you take an egg while the Buneary is at a set point, you'll consistently get the same frame. Then you only have to worry about seconds and delay.
Sorry if some of this is either obvious to you or incredibly confusing. Just ask if you still need help, and like DP I also have MSN, so you can add me.
Alright, whatever, you know what i mean LF :P
Turns out my frame is 11. I'll try that buneary thing and see if i can get the one i need then. Thanks guys. :)
Turns out my frame is 11. I'll try that buneary thing and see if i can get the one i need then. Thanks guys. :)
Don't worry about the NPCs moving, they will anyways. What you should do it just find what frame you are getting, and then see if you can get a spread with that frame.
Well yeah, but it's still possible to wait until the ones you can see aren't moving, or are moving minimally. It helps me get the same frame consistently, whereas if they're all moving around then the frame becomes really erratic.
Yeah I know, but they are moving anyways, even if they are off screen. The time I tried what you do, it took a while. And they don't always move in the same direction once you SR.
I know off-screen ones move too but you can't monitor the ones you can't see >.> Eh, well, in my experiences, I find it works best for me personally, so I'll probably keep doing it that way. I'd suppose since you know what you're talking about that's not the case for everybody, but I'll keep doing what works best for me XD
EDIT: To be clear, I'm not trying to argue with you, just saying if it works for me, I won't fix something that's not broken >.> But as a disclaimer to others, this apparently wouldn't necessarily work for everyone so it's not endorsed by the DPPt researchers
I've finally hit the right delay and time for a Cresselia I want. Now, I just need some confirmation on the Journal flips.
RNG Reporter says that the frame is 51. I take away 5 first (for Cresselia), right? That leaves me with 46. Now, each flip advances it by 2; that's 23 flips. So I just need to flip it 23 times, and then press A on Cresselia? Or am I missing something?
EDIT: And the Journal flips are only wild battles (caught/defeated), and not trainer battles?
RNG Reporter says that the frame is 51. I take away 5 first (for Cresselia), right? That leaves me with 46. Now, each flip advances it by 2; that's 23 flips. So I just need to flip it 23 times, and then press A on Cresselia? Or am I missing something?
EDIT: And the Journal flips are only wild battles (caught/defeated), and not trainer battles?
@ Whichu --
You will overshoot it by a frame, actually.
If your target frame is 46 (it is basically) you're going to need to get yourself to an "even" track.
remember no journal flips = frame 1, 1 flip = frame 3, 2 flips = frame 5, 3 = 7, etc.
@ Tase / LF
You're both right and the best way for egg IVs is to do what you are comfortable with and what works for you.
You will overshoot it by a frame, actually.
If your target frame is 46 (it is basically) you're going to need to get yourself to an "even" track.
remember no journal flips = frame 1, 1 flip = frame 3, 2 flips = frame 5, 3 = 7, etc.
@ Tase / LF
You're both right and the best way for egg IVs is to do what you are comfortable with and what works for you.
So, I'm going to write a guide and make a video guide for catching Wild Pokemon in Dppt (Using the same method as you do for legends) but I need to know what differs. Like, what does sweet scenting do to offset and such. Same with positioning, moving, facing different ways, and NPCs on the screen.
Can anyone help me out?
Can anyone help me out?
I think I can sorta. If someone could verify this, it would be appreciated. It's been a week since I've done this.
Scenting is -2 from frame
Turning is -1
Walking is -1
Turning and Walking is -2 (just add the previous 2)
NPCs advance it, not sure how much, probably the same, so try not to do it with NPCs in the area.
so frame 73 would go like this
scenting: 73-2 = 71
turn: 71-1 = 70
Journal: 70/2 = 35
Is the 4-digit one like the 5-digit one exept for a 0? SIDs are always 5 digits, and if you get a 4-digit one (at least I know this is true when you're using AR to find yours) you add a zero at the front of the number
So this Excel file I have with a ton of Seeds and Offsets listed, all I have to do is match the seed and offset in order to get the listed IV's? What about making it shiny?