The Fysical Phitness Thread

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getting protein before a workout just makes a surplus in your body so it can start recovering that much quicker. i drink a protein shake every morning with breakfast which is usually 2-3 hours before a workout, it just gets it into your body to prepare for a strenuous day.
 
I've never really liked exercise, though when it's light and in small doses, I can sometimes enjoy it. I am definitely not in the best shape right now, but once school gets out, I am going to start my own brand of exercise, mostly jogging and swimming. I also really want to try and start eating better, though it is definitely not easy to do - it requires a lot of dedication and focus.
 
Vespa gots it down.

And Bam, what's also scary about this guy is that he's HUGE does all these workouts, but hes also the leader of the Track Team and is the fastest runner in the city and I think even in the state.

Many people say he's on Steroids haha.
 
Yeah, our guy was on juice too.

Actually I have friends telling me about them and how they're thinking of doing it, etc. I mean it sounds very tempting but there's no way I'd risk it.

I pulled or strained my left lat today while powercleaning...during my second warm-up set =\. So I wasn't able to hit 225, and will have to stay away from pull exercises for a couple of days if I want to be able to attempt it again next week.
 
Erm I meant that many people THINK he's on Steroids not that they know =P.

And ouch, that sucks. I've never pulled a muscle however in the past I had gotten pains in my arms that made me think I had pulled something.
 
This answered a question like 3 pages back >.>

Actually, I take my protein supplement first thing in the morning and at dinner. The intake of protein helps rebuild and strengthen muscle throughout the day, so having a constanly high supply in your system helps muscles around the clock.

Also, has anyone else ever used the supplement Black Powder, or NO2 Black? Both have shown to increase muscle mass and strength after one use, and it's not a creatine like substance. It provides a rush through your system, and the best part about it is it builds "permanent" muscle (as long as you keep excercising, you don't need the supplement to stay on that plateau).
 
Are they really necessary though? What does a protein supplement have that you can't get from regular food :-(. I'm a strong advocate of 100% natural training, supplements included. If you look hard enough, you can find everything you need in food. It has already been proven that milk is better for an athlete than protein supplements anyway...
 
if you naturally eat a lot of meat and drink a lot of milk, protein supplements are generally unnecessary, but if you don't get enough protein from your diet they're very helpful

personally i eat a very high protein diet, so i don't take protein supplements
 
i refuse to let this thread be pushed into the background hahaha so i say we all post up some progress pics. i've got a bit more work into my back but now need to get my arms back into proportion X_x
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I have started on the long road to fitness, thanks to this thread! Gave me a bit of motivation to actually go out and do it instead of waiting and thinking about it. I am eating far more healthily and working out every other day at home, following the hundred-pushups and 200-situps program as well as weight training and pullups/chinups. I still can't do a full chinup which is really annoying but I'll get there. My target is to get that first pullup in 2-3 weeks' time.
 
Yeah, it's funny how difficult pull ups/chin ups actually are. I remember when I started out and was weight training every day and then my friend asked me to do 5 pull ups and I was like 'pfhhhht, that shit's easy.' Needless to say, I ended up looking a wee bit silly. I think it's because most of the pressure is put on a muscle that rarely sees much use in day-to-day life. The good thing is once you start getting the hang of them it's quite easy to progress (I was able to add 5 to my max reps in 2 weeks of training before my army tests) and they're fantastic for building strength too.

Good back, vespa!
 
Last day of school weight training for this schoolyear is tomorrow. I'll miss it and I won't - I hate having to do his workouts, but then again his workouts are a good thing as I often don't want to or am just too lazy to work out some muscle groups (for example: rope pullups..blech!) It's basically my last chance to clean 225 as my gym doesn't have a clean station.

Last time I tried I could only do like 13 full pullups, but back when I was a wee little kid (like 12-13yrs old) in the competitive climbing scene, I could campus (climb using only your arms, so basically pullup-ing) all the way up a 30ft overhanging-to-completely-horizontal wall. But back then I was just forearms and skin and bones. It's funny looking back.
 
Good luck BAM :)

I'm up to 8 from 0 pullups about 2 months ago. This video helped me. Basically, I just did a bunch of controlled negatives, but the video goes over even easier stuff if you can't do those yet. Negatives are better than assisted pullup machines because you actually use the same muscles. Assisted pullup machines you only move in 1 plane, while in real pullups you're moving in 3 planes.
 
I'd like some advice on building abs and muscle. What type of exercise must I do and how much to get the fastest results? I basically do a lot of running and my weight is average. Although, I would like to increase my muscular strength without weight lifting. What's the best way?
 
Arin said:
I'd like some advice on building abs and muscle. What type of exercise must I do and how much to get the fastest results? I basically do a lot of running and my weight is average. Although, I would like to increase my muscular strength without weight lifting. What's the best way?

I think your first step should be to drop this 'fastest results' mentality as I've seen so many people go out with that mindset and self destruct when they haven't improved much after a couple of months. You've gotta be in this shit for the long haul.

Anyway, abs are easy. Run a lot + sit ups + eat healthy and you'll start to see them quite quickly. You need to focus on burning the fat around your stomach before you focus on building the abdominal muscles up. Leg Raises are a good exercise to compliment sit ups too. Like this:

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Just lie like that and slowly raise and lower your legs to that position lots of times until you feel like you're gonna shit yourself, ok!

vespa said:
so i say we all post up some progress pics.

I'll try to get one up sometime soon, I've gained a kilo or since since my last post but I'm not sure how noticeable it is.
 
Hmmm... that looks just like the Iron Gym, which you can get at a fitness store for about $30...

Anyway, I find chin ups to be very easy, since I've been doing them for a while... I can usually rattle off about 30 like its nothin.. Pull ups with the extremely wide outstretched grip are a different story though... those I usually can only manage 6-8..

Well, I said I'd post my crazy workout split... I've been doing it for 2 weeks now and already seeing favorable results. My goal was not to become bulkier because my size is ideal. It was more focused on improving my skills as a poor basketball player (I'm terrible :-() and making myself more defined, as well as developing my 8 pac. On my workout days I work out twice a day, and each routine lasts roughly 90 minutes. So this is what it looks like:


Sunday: Day of rest. Eat hearty!!!


Monday: Day of rest. Eat hearty!!!


Tuesday (AM):

1 mile, as fast as possible
Leg stretches
Agility ladder drills (for more information, look them up):
Single step: run through the ladder stepping 1 foot in each.
Double step: run through the ladder stepping both feet in each
March step: run through the ladder as a skip, hitting each one
Locomotive (Right): hard to explain, look this up.
Locomotive (Left): same, but opposite direction
Barry Sanders: Juking motion. Might want to look this up too...
Soccer drills (my best sport!):
100 touches against the wall, left foot
100 touches against the wall, right foot
Cone dribbling, left foot only
Cone dribbling, right foot only
Cone dribbling, inside of foot only
Cone dribbling, outside of foot only
Basketball drills:
Sprint dribbling, right hand only
Spring dribbling, left hand only
Cone dribbling, left hand only
Cone dribbling, right hand only
Cone dribbling repeat 4 times, to practice crossovers.
Leg and arm stretching

Fitness portion:
50 push ups using perfect push up (usually its 2 sets of 25)
50 chin ups (same, 2 sets of 25)
20 butterflies laying down with 35 lb dumbells (2 sets of 10)
20 spring jumps (I call it this, but simply jump up and down with form)
10 standing bicep curls (forearms facing inward, than rotate), 35 lb
10 standing bicep curls (forearms facing each other, no rotation) 35 lb
30 jacknife leg raises

Tuesday (PM):

Basketball at the park for 30 min - 1 hour. Usually i just shoot around unless people are out there then I play a game. If its raining, I simply repeat the soccer and basketball drill portion of the AM workout, minus the 1 mile.

Repeat Fitness portion.
Substitute jacknife for:
30 floor wipers (look this one up, great for abs!), 3 sets of 10

200 crunches before bedtime (sets of 50, cause my back gives out :-P)


Wednesday (AM): nothing here. Eat hearty!!!


Wednesday (PM): Optional workout depending on how I feel and if I ate / slept right today. This is the Tuesday PM routine.


Thursday (AM): Tuesday AM routine


Thursday (PM): Tuesday PM routine


Friday: Day of rest. Eat hearty!!!


Saturday (AM):

Start with soccer / basketball drills seen on Tuesday (AM), with no mile.
Leg stretching

Saturday AM fitness- focuses on strength kind of circuit traningy...

50 perfect push ups (2 sets, 25 reps each)
15 pull ups (wide grip, 2 sets, 8 and 7 reps each)
30 Deadlifts (my bar maxes at 110 lb, so I do 2 sets of 15)
50 Shrugs (same with bar, 110 lb, 2 sets of 25)
50 Bench presses (110 lb, 2 sets of 25)
50 Box Jumps (look this up 2 sets of 25)
30 Jacknife leg raises


Saturday (PM):

Saturday PM fitness- focuses on individual toning.

50 perfect push ups (2 sets, 25 reps each)
50 chin ups (2 sets, 25 each)
20 butterflies laying down with 35 lb dumbells (2 sets of 10)
20 tricep "stuff" (lay down with dumbells over head and raise, 2 sets)
50 Shoulder press (2 sets of 25, 20 lb dumbells)
20 Concentration bicep curls, 35 lb dumbells (2 sets of 10 each arm)
60 Arm circles (15 lb dumbells, 3 sets of 20)
30 Shoulder "stuff" (15 lb dumbells at side... raise them up to wingspan)
30 Floor wipers (2 sets of 15)

200 crunches before bedtime:



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Diet:

On rest days, my diet was pretty free roaming, but on work out days... I pretty much ate the same thing because I like the food and could make it myself. For drinks, a small cup is roughly 8 oz, and a large cup is 16-20 oz.

1 small glass of water when waking up before AM workout.
Post Workout (AM): Large cup, 1% chocolate milk
Breakfast (1 hr after workout):
Large bowl of cherios in 1% milk
Large cup, 100% natural apple juice
Centrum Performance adult multivitamin

Lunch (3 hr after AM workout, 4-5 hr before PM workout):

Large cup of water
Large green apple
2 Turkey Sandwhiches on American cheese with regular mustard


Large cup of water 2 hr before PM workout:

Postworkout (PM): Large cup, 1% chocolate milk

Dinner (1 hour after PM workout): My mom usually cooks excellent dinners because she is into the whole fitness thing too. Usually consists of a good entree' and sides. So my 3 favorite dinners she usually cooks are:

Dinner #1
4 Baked Chicken Drumsticks, large bowl of rice, broccoli, cornbread,
Large cup of 100% natural grape juice

Dinner #2
Enormous bowl of spaghetti with tomato suace. Large salad.
Large cup of 1% milk

Dinner #3
12-14 oz. Steak, 2 baked potatoes, broccoli, slice of bread
Large cup of 100% natural grape juice


Bedtime snack (usually around 11 PM, 3 hours after dinner):
1 peanut butter and jelly sandwhich (Loaded with Peanut butter!)
1 Large green apple
Large cup 1% milk.


So basically, between all the milk, peanut butter, and hearty dinners.. my body actually never has trouble recoverying between workouts.. as such.. my abs have come in already and I'm well on my way. If my camera worked I'd post some pics. What you guys do when you work out?
 
I think your first step should be to drop this 'fastest results' mentality as I've seen so many people go out with that mindset and self destruct when they haven't improved much after a couple of months. You've gotta be in this shit for the long haul.

Anyway, abs are easy. Run a lot + sit ups + eat healthy and you'll start to see them quite quickly. You need to focus on burning the fat around your stomach before you focus on building the abdominal muscles up. Leg Raises are a good exercise to compliment sit ups too. Like this:

lying%20leg%20raise1.gif


Just lie like that and slowly raise and lower your legs to that position lots of times until you feel like you're gonna shit yourself, ok!



I'll try to get one up sometime soon, I've gained a kilo or since since my last post but I'm not sure how noticeable it is.

Ah, ok. I eat healthy and run about 2 miles a day (don't have much time to run more). So I'll need to start doing those exercises you've stated. Thanks!

@RaikouLover, I like your schedule. It's inpired me to make my own. ^^
 
Thanks Arin... remember to make a schedule that fits you, what you like to do and eat, and what you like to accomplish. Making a schedule and sticking to it are two different things. That's why I went to 2 a day workouts. I'm too lazy to work out 5-6 times a week, so by doing it twice on work out days, I could still get the same amount of time in.. as well as optimal rest between workouts.

Also, Floor Wipers are very good for abs too, look them up under "300 workout"
 
That all looks mighty fine RL, but you'll need to post a picture so we can see how well it works!
 
Thanks Tayleef, good link. I'm resting today but I gave some Controlled Negatives a go earlier, managed 8 seconds or so. I can get my arms about 90 degrees on a full chin-up, reckon it won't be too long before I can get a few reps and from there on it's just practice :)

I really need to start running. A game of squash every week is great but it's not enough cardio to burn the fat off my stomach, which I want to do. Problem is, I hate running... I don't like being a 'jogger', and I find myself getting really bored. I live in the middle of town which is also quite annoying because on the rare occasion I do want to go running, there's not really anywhere to go. At home I live in a village on a hill which is so good for an early morning run, but I'm not gonna be living there for long any more.

Any other good cardio suggestions? I really enjoy swimming but I am pretty embarassed at the shape I'm in... And I don't have a bike any more so cycling'd be tricky ;)
 
use a chair when you do chin ups to give yourself a small boost when you cant move up any further. it will give you the full range of motion which will make you able to do them much quicker.

also, just run. i HATED just running to run when i started but i moved my run time to whenever the sun rises (~6am) and i find it very relaxing mentally. i always make sure to run in places where nobody is awake so i feel like the only person on the earth at that point. plus if you learn to just power through something you don't enjoy it will make moving on to more difficult exercise routines that much easier.
 
Yeah, running is best. If you don't like running, I would just play a fun sport like soccer or basketball. They are better for you in terms of pure cardio, since you have a wide range of vertical and lateral movements that include sprinting and jogging. Most people doing weight traning forget to adapt their bodies to this form of excercise. Keeping your mobility up is important.
 
I enjoy running as well, but here in Vegas it can be hard to find a time to run, especially during the summer when it's up to 125* in the afternoon and 90* in the early mornings/late nights. However, I hate competitive running, which is kind of ironic as I do track. It's probably the cause of my hate of it - I'd rather just run at my own pace and listen to a good music while I feel the rhythmic thump of my feet on the ground.

I've never been a swimmer - before I recently started lifeguarding I hadn't swam for like a year and a half, but my best friend is a swimmer and he's been teaching me the strokes. At the lifeguard course pre-test we had to swim a 300m, and it nearly killed me (and I'm in good physical shape). Now that I have the main strokes and breathing technique down, I can swim much easier. Although it may not burn as much fat, it's great cardio and really works your chest and shoulders. My friend hardly lifted at all over the summer but his bench jumped from 145 to 205 and his pecs are pretty huge. I'm considering joining a local swim team over the summer because it'd be a great cardio workout and would let me beat the heat.

I'm also starting to wonder if some of the 15lbs of "muscle" I've gained is actually just fat - I mean I'm still really toned and have a low BMI (like 9%ish) but I've been eating so much junk food and hardly doing any cardio or fat-burning exercises aside from lifting. I avoided walking to the store with a friend today to get junk food, and didn't stop by the gas station on my way home tonight to get some resees like I usually do every Wednesday when I get paid. I really need to start up cardio again and cut down on the junk, though.

I also need to get a set regimen down for lifting. I've been very inconsistent in going to the gym recently, and since school lifting is over tomorrow, that will be my only source of weight-training, so I need to be going at least thrice a week. Responsibility go!!
 
Bumping.

So I didn't get it..but I found out I still have one more day (Monday) so I'm going to squat hard tomorrow or tonight and then rest and stretch a lot up until the day of.

I actually got the closest I've ever come to hitting it, though. I got it up high enough and actually had it all the way up - my elbows above my shoulders, but I was down in a squat position and when I started coming up my foot slid off the platform I was standing on and I had to throw the weight forwards so it wouldn't land on me. I was in a pretty deep squat but I'm pretty sure I would've been able to bring it up from that low as I usually do 4x5 at 215lbs with just regular deep squats without much trouble. Oh well.

Was watching lifting accident vids on youtube earlier and they scare me. Like this one..
 
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