Best Core Ever. RMT

Haxorjj

Hello! This is the first time I have posted an RMT, but that doesn't mean it won't be good! :P. This is a team I made myself, tested on Shoddy and it's gone very well; I have won 79 out of 90 matches.
However I did "steal" the Latias, Magnezone and Machamp core from Legacy Raider+'s team. I am open to all critism, albeit contructive or just plain flaming! I am in the process of getting this team on Platinum.
So without further adieu, the team!

All changes will be in bold.

The Lead

HEATRAN (HOT (BAN ME PLEASE)) @ Shuca Berry

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EVs: 4HP/252SPAtt/252Speed ---- Naive
(Flash Fire)
-Earth Power
-Explosion
-Fire Blast
-Stealth Rock

Heatran. Shuca berry ensures the SR goes down most of the time. If the lead is a steel I generally fire blast to open up. Explode on low health. Pretty basic really.

CORE

#1

LATIAS (GUARDIAN) @ Leftovers

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EVs: 148HP/252Speed/108SPAtt ---- Timid
(Levitate)
-Calm Mind
-Dragon Pulse
-Refresh
-Recover

Latias. I normally bring in on an EQ aimed at Magnezone and Calm Mind on the switch. Refresh to rid myself from T-wave (normally from Blisseys - Machamp can deal with her) and recover for... well recovering. I really like this Latias and I have 6-0 two teams using her.

#2

MAGNEZONE (BABE MAGNET) @ Choice Scarf

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EVs: 4Att/252Speed/252SPAtt ---- Naive
(Magnet Pull)
-Explosion
-Flash Cannon
-Hidden Power (Fire)
-Thunderbolt

Good ole Babe Magnet. I'm finding it pretty hard to get HP Fire on my DS, but on Shoddy it owns. Basically my Steel killer - deals with those pesky Scizors like a dream. Does bring a pretty horrific 400% weakness to Ground, but gives Latias and Gengar a free switch in - especially on CB or CS Flygons locked into EQ. Good member of the team in my opinion.

#3

MACHAMP (MACHAMPION [I'm sorry, I nicked this off team in the RMT archive :P) @ Leftovers

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EVs: 252Att/252HP/4Speed ---- Adamant
(No Guard)
-Sleep Talk
-Dynamic Punch
-Rest
-Stone Edge

I am open to ideas on the move set. I never seem to use Payback tbh. Stone Edge for those Gyrados thinking i'll switch off an intimidate. Bulk Up for when I can predict a switch or whatever. Dynamic Punch and No Guard seem to go well together, and it certainly makes Blissey run for the hills, but, I just don't think it's working. I am open to ideas. I don't want to change the pokemon, because it covers the other two's weaknesses very well, just the moveset.

THE GLUE(S), REINFORCEMENT(S)

GENGAR (HEPNA'J'AI) @ Life Orb

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EVs: 4HP/252Speed/252SPAtt ---- Timid
(Levitate)
-Focus Blast
-Shadow Ball
-Energy Ball
-Thunderbolt

Gengar brings a lot of resists to the team, and does a lot for the team overall. He provides a much needed ground immunity for Magnezone and finds plenty of times to switch in and Sub. I don't really need Focus Blast seeing that I have Machamp, but I don't know what to replace it with. Thunderbolt again for Gyarados. Pretty standard set really, but I want something more... unothrodox... so the opponent can't predict my set so easily.

SWAMPERT (KIPPERS) @ Leftovers

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EVs: 252HP/4Att/252Def ---- Impish
(Torrent)
-Avalanche
-Earthquake
-Roar
-Waterfall

Swampert. I did use Tyranitar here before, and I feel Gengar complimented Tyranitar much more than he does with Swampert. I ditched Tyranitar because his ability was detrimental for my team. Swampert brings an unwanted 400% grass weakness, and most teams do carry a grass knotter, which is annoying. He does score at least one KO per match, but I don't think he works so well. Swampert is the pokemon I would most likely want to swap(ert). xD

Overall this team is alright. Each pokemon covers each other's weaknesses, especially my core. In most matches the last 3 pokemon I end up winning with is my core. However, I am open to any suggestions, especially concerning Kippers.

THREE...TWO...ONE... RATE! :D
 
I don't like Latias having only Dragon Pulse as it doesn't cover much, at least with all these steels running out there. I would either remove CM or Refresh for something that complements Dragon Pulse, such as Hidden Power [Fire] or Surf (To an Extent it does).

Bulk Up Machamp is sexy.

I like the team overall, and I think Swampert is a good fit. Heatran can always be switched for someone else, but I like what he does on the team, and his typing gives your team better switch ins.

Pretty Good.
 
TeH Knift said:
I don't like Latias having only Dragon Pulse as it doesn't cover much, at least with all these steels running out there. I would either remove CM or Refresh for something that complements Dragon Pulse, such as Hidden Power [Fire] or Surf (To an Extent it does).

Bulk Up Machamp is sexy.

I like the team overall, and I think Swampert is a good fit. Heatran can always be switched for someone else, but I like what he does on the team, and his typing gives your team better switch ins.

Pretty Good.
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That latias beats Blissey...
 
BurtonEarny said:
That latias beats Blissey...
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6 Calm Minds only does 48% on a 252 HP/6 SpDef Blissey.
I don't see why they can't just switch out into a steel, after finding out you have CM/Refresh (from the Toxic Bliss runs)/Dragon Pulse/Recover (After healing from Toxic) to take the hit and revenge kill the Latias.

And if you were talking about the Refresh beating Blissey, I understand. But he needs something else to take care of other things, since Latias is walled by all Steel Pokemon not named Dialga (and he's Uber, and would still destroy Latias.)
 
Like the Latias, it's quite sweet...

But what about Psycho Shift rather than Refresh, that way it's possible to force Blissey to switch, perhaps spread around some Status?
Not as reliable, granted, but it can be quite useful...
 
TeH Knift said:
6 Calm Minds only does 48% on a 252 HP/6 SpDef Blissey.
I don't see why they can't just switch out into a steel, after finding out you have CM/Refresh (from the Toxic Bliss runs)/Dragon Pulse/Recover (After healing from Toxic) to take the hit and revenge kill the Latias.
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Well the only steel that matters really is Scizor as you are allowed to switch. And with 3 CM (not out of the realm of possibility against Blissey since you run Refresh) you are doing 50 percent to scizor w/ Max hp. 2 CM still gives you a chance at a 2HKO. Heatran can SD, and you can switch costing them a poke. Manezone cant do anything either. Forretress can beat it if it switches in one the first CM or two and is a special def. one. Its not necessary to give it another move tbh, thats why its a recomended set...
 
Yeah, I understand. It seems like it works. Especially with Magnezone and Machamp backing him up. I just observed that you and T.Larson both use ellipsis instead of periods to end your thoughts, I thought it was amusing.
 
TeH Knift said:
6 Calm Minds only does 48% on a 252 HP/6 SpDef Blissey.
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And most Blisseys run SDef EV's rather than HP EV's. Max SDef gives 19% more defensive potential, whereas max HP gives 6% more. Regardless, it still is a potent threat to stall teams. Just thought I would point that out.

If you never seem to use Payback, maybe use Rest on Machamp? It's not optimal, but 4 moves is better than 3.

Put Explosion on Gengar for even more wall-breaking fun. Again, 4 moves is better than 3.

If you can handle offensive teams, then this team looks like it can go far. Good luck.

Those are small scale changes. If you are up for a major overhaul, consider a Rest-Talk Tentacruel to lay down Toxic Spikes to help with a Latias sweep, effectively clocking Blissey's time in the ring. But if Gengar and Heatran can beat Blissey, then you have no worries. This is only if you really want to center the team around Latias.
 
Mixpert could give you some problems especially without a grass move. Id throw E Ball on Gengar over Sub and give him a LO.
 
Sludge Bomb on Gengar is a good alternative, it's a pretty good STAB, has pretty good coverage when combined with Shadow Ball, and lures out Steel types for Magnezone.
 
Hi,

cool team.

I recommend you change your Machamp to a Rest Talk variant. I have used Rest Talk Machamp before with great success and I think it would benefit your team. Use,

Machamp @ Leftovers
Adamant (I prefer Impish but whatever)/No Guard
252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def

~Dynamic Punch
~Stone Edge
~Rest
~Sleep Talk

Now, you may say, "but now I lose SE coverage on Ghosts", well, trust me, Stone Edge works great, and with the possibility of a crit Gengar won't want to come in anytime soon. Machamp can actually work as a semi-good Scizor Counter if used correctly. DP deals out alot and with confusion it will be hard for sweepers to set up. WHile using this Machamp, I found that the most common switches into Machamp (besides ghosts) were Salamence and Gyarados. SE hits them both very hard, and they will expect you to switch. WIth SR damage, I believe it's a OHKO (even after Intimidate).

Good luck.

Oh, for the Gengar slot. I advise;

HP Fire (for Scizor attempting to Pursuit you)
HP Ice (come in on predicted EQ's and kill the Dragons)
Destiny Bond (might be nice for something you really need to get rid of)
Trick (use a Choice Scarf and then proceed to cripple Blissey - Gengar's #1 counter)
Sludge Bomb. A good STAB - but not the best coverage - I advise against this one because when you opponent finds out that half your moveset is resisted by steels, (notably those god-damned broken Scizors) they will have a field day swtiching in.
 
Thanks for the help guys, i've considered all of your changes and updated the team accordingly. Rest + Sleep Talk is a good combo on Machamp, thanks to mtr12 and Angry Chair. I may also consider a Tentacruel to compliment a Latias sweep, thanks again to mtr12. GB Packers Ftw, i have changed the Gengar to have LO, and Energy Ball. Thanks everyone else. :D

BurtonEarny said:
Well the only steel that matters really is Scizor as you are allowed to switch. And with 3 CM (not out of the realm of possibility against Blissey since you run Refresh) you are doing 50 percent to scizor w/ Max hp. 2 CM still gives you a chance at a 2HKO. Heatran can SD, and you can switch costing them a poke. Manezone cant do anything either. Forretress can beat it if it switches in one the first CM or two and is a special def. one. Its not necessary to give it another move tbh, thats why its a recomended set...
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I don't really have any problems with steels, so long as Magnezone is alive. HP-Fire annhilates Scizor and takes around half of Metagross' hit points away; and can survive most of Metagross' hits; bar EQ, which is why i switch to either Gengar or Latias.

Editor: Taylor
 
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