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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
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Would you take submissions from guys like me? 0_0
I tried it again and didnt get it this time either. These are the steps I took.
1. Caught a pokemon to get the seed
2. Calculated poketch taps and flips
3. Flew to solaceon town
4. Put the pokemon in the daycare.
5. switched to egg checker app.
6. Saved infront of daycare man
7. Took the egg
8. Hatched the egg.
9. The nature was wrong.
Any ideas on what im doing wrong?
1. Caught a pokemon to get the seed
2. Calculated poketch taps and flips
3. Flew to solaceon town
4. Put the pokemon in the daycare.
5. switched to egg checker app.
6. Saved infront of daycare man
7. Took the egg
8. Hatched the egg.
9. The nature was wrong.
Any ideas on what im doing wrong?
Get a Good natured Gible to reset for ivs with.
I have no idea how many runners you have out in your game.
Here are the ONLY possibilities, and there NOTHING else that I, or anyone else can you after I list these --
1. You generated with international selected when you do not, in fact, have international parents.
2. You generated with normal (non international) when you do, in fact, have international parents.
3. You generated with international parents and DO have international parents, AND your SID was entered incorrectly.
4. You simply miscounted the flips/taps.
5. You did not have 6 Pokemon in your party when you did your taps.
6. You had the happiness checker open when you flew/walked in and out of a building/battled a wild Pokemon.
7. You had an everstone attached to a parent.
That's it.
If you follow the directions exactly, have the correct SID, and know whether your parents are from/not from the same language game then non of these things can happen to you.
mattj- Runners are the pokemon that are currently roaming around. If mesprit is the only one, then yes. If it is still in the cave, then no.
blakcharizard - Telling us the basic steps that are the same as telling you what to do won't help at all. I'm assuming after step 2 you do the flips and taps. You start on app 5, you do not fly or enter/exit buildings with app 6 open, you have 6 pokemon while doing taps. While switching to the egg app, don't allow 6 to show, just go over it quickly. The nature can be wrong cause you may be using international parents and have normal for generated list, or the other way around. You may have just fucked up the taps. Take the egg next time, then take the next 3/4 eggs, and find out what frame you are on, and how far you missed.
blakcharizard - Telling us the basic steps that are the same as telling you what to do won't help at all. I'm assuming after step 2 you do the flips and taps. You start on app 5, you do not fly or enter/exit buildings with app 6 open, you have 6 pokemon while doing taps. While switching to the egg app, don't allow 6 to show, just go over it quickly. The nature can be wrong cause you may be using international parents and have normal for generated list, or the other way around. You may have just fucked up the taps. Take the egg next time, then take the next 3/4 eggs, and find out what frame you are on, and how far you missed.
Ok I think I know where im going wrong im skipping the apps as I go from happiness checker to Coin flip.
I know also the parents are normal as I Hatched them both.
I know also the parents are normal as I Hatched them both.
From the OP.
Number of Wandering Pokémon - This number represents the number of wandering Pokémon that have been released into the game, but have not been captured. Examples of wandering Pokémon are Cresselia, Mespirit, Zapdos, Articuno, and Moltres.
I am not sure how skipping apps is hurting you here.
I'm in another struggle at the moment. I don't understand how to do the grass/cave encounters.
I basically don't understand the whole portion including the code.
Here's the PID that I generated: A333B805
Any help is greatly appreciated.
I basically don't understand the whole portion including the code.
I can't seem to get an Method J frame when I generate anything. This also screws me over to be able to change the encounter(since I obviously can't get a Method J).
Here's the PID that I generated: A333B805
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Alright, so I've manipulated the RNG today to catch a shiny Giratina in the Distortion World. I've searched through this thread, and along with a bit of personal testing, I think it'd be okay to come to a couple of conclusions about SR'ing for DW Giratina:
1. The Monster (or starting) frame for Giratina is 12, nothing new there.
2. When you use the journal, no matter how many times you open it, it advances Giratina's frame by 11. You can open it 2, 4, 38 times, it'll only advance it by 11 once (i.e. you open it once, it advances the frame by 11, you close it, you open it again, but the action of opening it will not advance it any further). I think there was some discussion about this a while back, but I don't know if this number could change from game to game.
3. A journal page saying something about the Distortion World (Met Distortion World's Cyrus! for example) does not advance the frame at all.
@viper: I can't exactly speak for anyone else, but I'm thinking we're all hoping the RNG implementation in HGSS will mirror that of DPPt. For now it's too early to say anything really, we'll see what we can do when it comes out.
1. The Monster (or starting) frame for Giratina is 12, nothing new there.
2. When you use the journal, no matter how many times you open it, it advances Giratina's frame by 11. You can open it 2, 4, 38 times, it'll only advance it by 11 once (i.e. you open it once, it advances the frame by 11, you close it, you open it again, but the action of opening it will not advance it any further). I think there was some discussion about this a while back, but I don't know if this number could change from game to game.
3. A journal page saying something about the Distortion World (Met Distortion World's Cyrus! for example) does not advance the frame at all.
@viper: I can't exactly speak for anyone else, but I'm thinking we're all hoping the RNG implementation in HGSS will mirror that of DPPt. For now it's too early to say anything really, we'll see what we can do when it comes out.
At this point, I don't think we're really sure. We have no idea if it's time based (like most games) or action based (DPPt). We don't know how it will seed. Most likely it will be the same implementation, but it's all speculation that doesn't warrant much discussion yet.
question!! :D
OK, so i figured out how to RNG the nature//ability//gender of an egg.
but now, i want to go to the next step and abuse RNGS for the IVS of the offspring.(adamant gligar)
So i saved in front of the Daycare Man, and hatched the egg. It was the right nature and ability i wanted.
Now, to abuse the RNG for good ivs, we have to(i'm not sure of this)
1.SR in front of the daycare man
2.Mash A until we get the egg so no NPC'S can advance the RNG
3.Catch a wild pokemon//find initial seed...
4.Select Breeding (DPPT) in RNG reporter
5.Match Ivs of offspring to the corresponding Ivs that RNG reporter gave us.
Heres where i'm at a loss @_@
Know this, I dont have AR so i cant automatically check the IVS of the egg without hatching it and putting it in the daycare to level it up a bit.
this is what i did. unfortunately, i had to go and stop rng'ing to do a trade.
but i want to know this. is the method i used for checking the offsprings IV's OK? will it mess up the RNG in any way? ( also, i am not sure of the next step or how to proceed once i'm at this point , so if someone could tell me this as well)
Thanks!
OK, so i figured out how to RNG the nature//ability//gender of an egg.
but now, i want to go to the next step and abuse RNGS for the IVS of the offspring.(adamant gligar)
So i saved in front of the Daycare Man, and hatched the egg. It was the right nature and ability i wanted.
Now, to abuse the RNG for good ivs, we have to(i'm not sure of this)
1.SR in front of the daycare man
2.Mash A until we get the egg so no NPC'S can advance the RNG
3.Catch a wild pokemon//find initial seed...
4.Select Breeding (DPPT) in RNG reporter
5.Match Ivs of offspring to the corresponding Ivs that RNG reporter gave us.
Heres where i'm at a loss @_@
Know this, I dont have AR so i cant automatically check the IVS of the egg without hatching it and putting it in the daycare to level it up a bit.
this is what i did. unfortunately, i had to go and stop rng'ing to do a trade.
but i want to know this. is the method i used for checking the offsprings IV's OK? will it mess up the RNG in any way? ( also, i am not sure of the next step or how to proceed once i'm at this point , so if someone could tell me this as well)
Thanks!
To be honest, most people won't be taking part in the "cracking" of the RNG. Assuming they keep method 1, and maybe even J, the main part of cracking would be how the seed is generated. Hopefully they don't change anything. If they do change how the seed is determined, mingot and some others will use the debugger in an emulator to find that out. More common RNG abusers, like me, equinox?, clikc, arael, and others, will be using emulators or flashcarts with save states. If they keep method 1/J, we can abuse legends by finding out the seed how we do in FR/LG.
You need the seed of the spread you want, not the PID. If you're entering the PID into RNG Reporter of course you're not going to find anything. I suggest using Wichu's Pokerng program on the first page if you aren't already to find the seed you want.
I have the seed, maybe I don't understand what is being asked.
I used the seeds from one of the spreads that was provided with the spread.
Oh, okay. You say you can't get any Method J spreads in RNGreporter with that PID right? Are you sure you have the correct ID/SID information in? Maybe it'll show up if you use a synchronizer? (You are entering the PID in the seed hex box right?)
d120287 this is my actual seed. Yes, my ID/SID is correct. I checked multiple times and it came to be the same number everytime. And I tried a synchronizer and it didn't happen again. I can get something from method 1, but not J.
I used physical spread #5, if that can help anyone.
Okay thanks. I'll try a different spread. That explains alot, I'm starting to get various method J spreads now.
Okay I want to breed 6 floorless iv pokemon and this is what I have been doing to calibrate my ds. Checking the seconds and delay time by changing the date of my ds, synchronising the time to my computer, catching a pokemon immediately and then checking its iv's using rare candies... Then I have used find initial seed on the rng reporter and have taken note of the seconds and delay.
Okay first qus-Have I been doing this stage correctly?
Second-Can I tell if I have messed up?
Thirdly-What do I do once I have lots of data recorded of the seconds and delay?
I know these are all dumb questions but I am dumb and I need help! :S
Okay first qus-Have I been doing this stage correctly?
Second-Can I tell if I have messed up?
Thirdly-What do I do once I have lots of data recorded of the seconds and delay?
I know these are all dumb questions but I am dumb and I need help! :S