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Pokémon HeartGold & SoulSilver - The Offical Competitive Discussion Thread
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Does anyone else find it odd that Nosepass has Head Smash listed as an egg move, and yet nothing that can learn Head Smash is in its egg group?
Perhaps there's a Nosepass being given away in-game that knows Head Smash, similar to the ExtremeSpeed Dratini? Or perhaps it's for a future game, like how Magcargo had Heat Wave listed as an egg move but couldn't breed with anything that knew it until you got one that knew Heat Wave in XD: Gale of Darkness...
Perhaps there's a Nosepass being given away in-game that knows Head Smash, similar to the ExtremeSpeed Dratini? Or perhaps it's for a future game, like how Magcargo had Heat Wave listed as an egg move but couldn't breed with anything that knew it until you got one that knew Heat Wave in XD: Gale of Darkness...
Note for Little Cup players: I just tested it, and Berry Juice does work as a hold item still, restoring 20 HP. One-use only, obviously. You receive it attached to the Shuckle you get in Cianwood City.
(It was in the D/P ROM because you can get it in Gen III at the very least, but it wasn't in Shoddy Battle 1 due to an oversight, and most people don't seem too aware of the item.)
(It was in the D/P ROM because you can get it in Gen III at the very least, but it wasn't in Shoddy Battle 1 due to an oversight, and most people don't seem too aware of the item.)
Oh wow. That might actually be a little bit broken.
EDIT: Does it activate at 25% like other pinch berries, or 50% like other healing berries?
EDIT: Does it activate at 25% like other pinch berries, or 50% like other healing berries?
The other question is whether Bug Bite consumes it or not. If not, that makes it infinitely superior to Oran Berry.
Speaking of which, if Shuckle holds an Oran Berry for a few battles, does it turn into Berry Juice? (Oran is the most analogous to the original "Berry" Item).
Honchkrow finally gets brave bird :)
he is going to hurt.and so many pokemon get gravity perhaps gravity teams will evolve into something more dangerous.
he is going to hurt.and so many pokemon get gravity perhaps gravity teams will evolve into something more dangerous.
I'm still happy that Feraligatr might move up a tier, BL or If I'm really lucky, OU!!
But I don't think Feraligatr will move up to OU because of Gyarados
But I don't think Feraligatr will move up to OU because of Gyarados
Except for, you know, the ability to take and use special attacks well, the immunity to Trick, and BlockYawnMemento for setup sweeper support. Not outclassed at all, just different.
Wow! That sounds very useful, another Oran Berry for a team using item clause? Sweet.
Does it only coming from the Shuckle at Cianwood? Is there no other way to make it?
Any Shuckle can produce more by making it hold an Oran Berry IIRC.
Stockpile Torterra sounds fun. ;D
I'm pretty disappointed with the lack of tailglow on the Mareep line, though. D:
I'm pretty disappointed with the lack of tailglow on the Mareep line, though. D:
Scizor got bug bite. Nothing special, but with technician...
How about Lapras with Perish Song and Block, it may see some use. along with Polish Golem with Block Explosion and Earthquake
With a Dragon Dance and Life Orb under its belt, Dragonite now stands a chance against Pokemon like Weavile and Mamoswine, while Donphan's Ice Shard is rather lackluster and Outrage is suitable. I've done the caculations and it looks like Dragonite is going to be a beast. Like before, the only problem it'll have is a way to deal with Skarmory. Then if yo make it hit Skarm, you can't cover Heatran. So basically you'll need the riht team support (as expected).
True, unless you are using an SD Scizor. Then Bug Bite will do 30 more dame than U-Turn which is kinda nice. And besides X Scissor is a bit more useful on the SD set over U-Turn anyhow. Unless you are planning to pretend to be Banded using Shed Shell. On SD sets Bug Bite will be superior.
60*1.5*1.5 = 135
70*1.5 = 105
@Dragonites. Support FTW.
Doubtful. Dragonite getting Extremespeed doesn't really change much. IMO, its just a cool move to have with few practical uses.
Rotom getting Pain Split on the other hand. Now, I think that will increase the number of defensive Rotoms substantially.
@ HP Ice ScarfGar: No
@ Pain Split Rotom: Hell yes. This will increase his survivability substantially without having to take a nap and potentially let something set up. Meanwhile, he gains an extra moveslot over the Rest Talk version. Reflect, Tbolt, Shadow Ball, WoW, T-Wave, Overheat, Leaf Storm, etc., take your pick.
@ Pain Split Rotom: Hell yes. This will increase his survivability substantially without having to take a nap and potentially let something set up. Meanwhile, he gains an extra moveslot over the Rest Talk version. Reflect, Tbolt, Shadow Ball, WoW, T-Wave, Overheat, Leaf Storm, etc., take your pick.
I doubt it'd be central to rotoms moveset since dusknoir is like a physical more bulky rotom and his pain spilt is underwhelming.
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