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I've RNGed for a few perfect IV pokemon and I recently managed to make one shiny, now I'd like to do the same for my Darkrai event (it's still waiting for me in the PokeMart).

The Guide lists how to get perfect Wondercard Pokemon but it doesn't say if they can be abused for shiny.

It also lists Darkrai as a Method J but then later says: "The end result is that we can get any IV spread that can be produced through Method 1 on any nature." So is it Method J or Method 1?

-and finally, I'm confused on the list of spreads. I usually search for a spread and then match up the times, but since the times change depending on the date, I don't know how I'm supposed to use the spread list that's given. If it's just a matter of looking for those spreads than I don't understand why there's a list at all, I could do the same just by putting in a month and searching- over and over until I get the results I want. What am I doing wrong?
 
First of all, Wondercard Pokemon, unless set as shiny like the VGC Milotic Wondercard, can't be shiny. It's something to do with how the PID is called, but I'm not familiar with the details.

Second, since you're obtaining a Wondercard Pokemon, and not doing the Member Pass event (from what I infer), disregard what the post says about Darkrai's Monster Frame; what you're dealing with here is not a Method J Pokemon.

When looking for spreads, search your target IV spread in Wichu's Pokerng program to search through possible Method 1 spreads. Nature does not matter, since it's determined in another manner that we can't control. This means you'll be trying to hit your delay and frame for the IVs, and resetting if you don't get the nature you want.

Oh yes, if you find an IV spread you like, plug the seed into RNG Reporter to find its frame, and then add 2 to that number to get the frame you need to hit for your Wondercard.

Finally, for target times, plug the seed into RNG Reporter, and use the Seed to Time function to get possible dates.
 
Asylum Evermore said:
I've RNGed for a few perfect IV pokemon and I recently managed to make one shiny, now I'd like to do the same for my Darkrai event (it's still waiting for me in the PokeMart).

The Guide lists how to get perfect Wondercard Pokemon but it doesn't say if they can be abused for shiny.

It also lists Darkrai as a Method J but then later says: "The end result is that we can get any IV spread that can be produced through Method 1 on any nature." So is he Method J or Method 1?

-and finally, I'm confused on the list of spreads. I usually search for a spread and then match up the times, but since the times change depending on the date, I don't know how I'm supposed to use the spread list that's given. If it's just a matter of looking for those spreads than I don't understand why there's a list at all, I could do the same just by puttin gin a month and searching- over and over until I get the results I want. What am I doing wrong?
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Wonder Card Pokemon (except for Ranger Manaphy) cannot be abused for shininess. They are either always shiny or never shiny.

There are two different ways to obtain Darkrai. Darkrai is Method J if you use the Member Card event and SR for it in New Moon Island, but in your case (with the Wonder Card), follow the Wonder Card guide.

I am not entirely sure what you are trying to say for your last point.

EDIT: I was beaten to the punch, but I'll leave this here in case this post happens to be easier to understand or something.
 
Thanks to the both of you, you've helped clear up a mental mess.

Would you mind explaining how it would differ if it was a Member Pass and not a Wondercard Darkrai?
 
With a Member Pass, it's much simpler to get a good IV spread and Nature, but getting a good Shiny spread is still a matter of chance. What shiny spreads you can get in your game depends on the combination of your ID and secret ID number.

With a Member Pass, Darkrai appears on Newmoon Island as a Method J Pokemon with a frame of one. You can save right in front of Darkrai, save your game, and hit your target delay and frame for any possible Method J spread (with or without using a synchronizer). If for some reason you messed up with your calculations or preparations, you can actually KO Darkrai and come back again later to the Harbor inn in Canalave City to try to catch him again.
 
A jornal page with a battled/caught pokemon on it advances the frames by 2. A jornal page with just a "Exited the day care" or "walked along route 217" advances de frame by one or simply doesn't advance the frame at all?
 
Hiya, I've been trying to get my seed by find initial seed by stats. I always put in the right data, still the app says : No reasonable initial seed found. Please check your DATE and TIME. I fill in year:2009, month:09, date:26, etc... All the corect data that matches my ds, and still it always gives that warning... Why is that? If I enter random bull in the calculater it says other errors, but not that one XD
 
It might be that the delay of your seed surpasses the Initial Seed Finder's capacity. If I recall correctly, the Initial Seed Finder can search seeds of up to 3600 by IVs, and 1200 by stats.
 
I'm not entirely new to this whole RNG Mechanisms but I've been hearing a
lot about Wichu's Programm. Could someone please tell me what Wichu's
Programm is? And where I can find it? Or is it the RNG Reporter itself ?
Thx to all that can deliver a good answer :)
 
Dance Soldier said:
I'm not entirely new to this whole RNG Mechanisms but I've been hearing a
lot about Wichu's Programm. Could someone please tell me what Wichu's
Programm is? And where I can find it? Or is it the RNG Reporter itself ?
Thx to all that can deliver a good answer :)
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It's on the first page of this thread...

EDIT: Sudo, I think the find seed by initial stats is capped around the 500 offset mark. But Mingot can confirm or deny that.
 
DylyWyly said:
How can I solve that?
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Assuming that you are pressing A from the time you reset until you are into the game AND that you are catching a Pokemon fairly quickly then that is not your issue.

What is happening is that you are not entering your date and time correctly.

If you have checked 100 times, check again, because that is the problem :)
 
ClikC said:
EDIT: Sudo, I think the find seed by initial stats is capped around the 500 offset mark. But Mingot can confirm or deny that.
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mingot posted the ranges here.

Anyway DylyWyly, if your delay is too high to find it by stats, and you've done everything else correctly, your only option is to try to calculate the IVs of your catches, and plug those IVs into the initial seed function.
 
Sudo said:
mingot posted the ranges here.

Anyway DylyWyly, if your delay is too high to find it by stats, and you've done everything else correctly, your only option is to try to calculate the IVs of your catches, and plug those IVs into the initial seed function.
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Sorry my mistake, was thinking offset not delay ranges.
 
Where can I post sugestions for new features for RNG Reporter?

Things like a "inherit from parent A/ inherit from parent B/ not inherited" options to help filter the results on the spreads, to help people like me who have some horrible dittos and will have to chain-breed good IVs from one parent only....
 
under the section how to hatch perfect pokemon for step 4 for the frame calibration phase can you use the rng to get the nature, ability, etc you want and then do these steps or will that screw things up
 
Dea said:
Where can I post sugestions for new features for RNG Reporter?

Things like a "inherit from parent A/ inherit from parent B/ not inherited" options to help filter the results on the spreads, to help people like me who have some horrible dittos and will have to chain-breed good IVs from one parent only....
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But they alread have that on the original spreads..=o
A is for parent A - the first putted in the daycare
B is for Parent B - The second putted in the daycare
And the on with a numerical value is the one that aren't inherited

Anyways is their any SID/ID Combination that aren't possible to have.
I meant, which spread of IV isn't possible to have, sorry!
 
... So I want to start RNG abusing. But my R Trigger button doesn't work at all. Will this affect how easily I can do this, or will hard resetting the game be okay?
 
Flamewire said:
... So I want to start RNG abusing. But my R Trigger button doesn't work at all. Will this affect how easily I can do this, or will hard resetting the game be okay?
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It'll probably get in the way if your using emloop...unless you start it at the exacte same time you soft reset...
 
Flamewire said:
... So I want to start RNG abusing. But my R Trigger button doesn't work at all. Will this affect how easily I can do this, or will hard resetting the game be okay?
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I would think that instead of SRing, maybe you could hard reset early, get to the main screen where you can choose to enter the game or change settings, and then hit A to enter the game at the same time when you would normally SR. I've never done it that way, but one of my DS's has that same problem.
 
What's emloop?

I would think that instead of SRing, maybe you could hard reset early, get to the main screen where you can choose to enter the game or change settings, and then hit A to enter the game at the same time when you would normally SR. I've never done it that way, but one of my DS's have that same problem.
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I was hoping that would work. Thanks.
 
That's right hard resetting woul works, that' the method I use and it works just fine ;P

Emloop is a timer used to hit your delay more efficiently.
 
Okay. So I did 10 calibrations. This is what I got:

Code: 
| # | Time  | Delay | Seconds
| 1 | 18:25 |  603  | 13
| 2 | 18:31 |  615  | 13
| 3 | 18:33 |  613  | 14
| 4 | 18:38 |  599  | 13
| 5 | 18:41 |  609  | 14
| 6 | 18:44 |  603  | 14
| 7 | 18:48 |  605  | 14
| 8 | 18:50 |  593  | 15
| 9 | 18:55 |  605  | 14
| 10| 18:58 |  601  | 13

So what do I use for my range? 593 to 615? Or should I delete the outliers, so 599 - 609?

Or should I just do more calibrations?

(Yeah, newbie here. At least I managed to hatch a Shiny Eevee using the steps in the first post. ^^)
 
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