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Smogon Shoddy Server Statistics - September 2009
- Thread starter DougJustDoug
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No one realizes the power of Heracross if he enters UU. Bug / Fighting is the best possible coverage to smash any physical walls who try to get in its way. Tangrowth, Slowbro one of the best physical walls are OHKOed by Megahorn and Milotic and others die to Close Combat (2hko-ohko). Of course this is speculation of whats to come IF Heracross does come to UU.
Regardless, good stats Doug, cool fact about its percentage and Garchomp.
Regardless, good stats Doug, cool fact about its percentage and Garchomp.
It can still be countered by Weezing and Nidoqueen, both of which deserve to be used more honestly.
Alakazam being brought down means Ambipom leads might drop, due to Inner Focus.
Sounds like Scizor is quite UBER.
Well, Slaking and Regigigigigigigigigigigas...
Small portion still. But anyways its been said countless times that Weezing can really wall a number of physical walls yet you dont see it very often. Plus, what can it do to Heracross? Will-O-Wisp is useless while Fire Blast is a clean 2HKO on Heracross. While it probably has an SD under its belt, it can 2HKO you with Stone Edge. Nidoqueen can't do anything as well but its the best counter yes, because more Nidoqueen's would have to carry Roar. Although a Facade set could be used and I'm pretty sure it can stop stall steams quite easily.
Hmm... Unless my calculations are wrong, a pokémon, this month, is OU if it's used in over ~24267 battles (1/20th of 485,335 = 24266.5, according to my calculator).
That means Crobat barely makes it into OU, with Alakazam and Rhyperior dropping out of OU, and into UU. That is, if I calculated correctly.
That means Crobat barely makes it into OU, with Alakazam and Rhyperior dropping out of OU, and into UU. That is, if I calculated correctly.
Wtf Donphan is all the way down at #60? It was hovering around 50th for like the past millennium and now that it's officially UU his usage in OU drops 10 places? Who else thinks this has nothing to do with Donphan's ability as a Pokemon and everything to do with his tiering as a UU Pokemon? It's like all of a sudden just because he became UU a bunch of people no longer want to use him. That's not the way things should work...
Thanks a million Doug!
Looks like Lead Mew is catching on hehe. It's nice to see that even in a "dead" metagame like Ubers, there's always room for new ideas.
In other news, UU is going to be shaken up even more than it has been with the certain departure of Roserade and potential arrivals of Rhyperior, Alakazam, and Umbreon (again?). My guess is that there won't be any kind of stability in the lower tiers for some time yet. Not that I'm complaining - I'd rather have new things to adapt to all the time than always see the exact same threats. IMO OU is actually the most "centralized" of all the tiers right now - people's teams seem to be more homogeneous than in UU or Ubers, not in terms of Pokémon but in a general sense of playstyle (Bulky Offense and Semi-Stall are almost all I see).
EDIT: Scizor has just a 3.32% difference between its OU and Uber usage, while Forretress is used a whopping 12.67% more often in Ubers than in OU! It's stuff like this that makes me love these stats.
Uber Usage said:
Uber Lead said:
Looks like Lead Mew is catching on hehe. It's nice to see that even in a "dead" metagame like Ubers, there's always room for new ideas.
In other news, UU is going to be shaken up even more than it has been with the certain departure of Roserade and potential arrivals of Rhyperior, Alakazam, and Umbreon (again?). My guess is that there won't be any kind of stability in the lower tiers for some time yet. Not that I'm complaining - I'd rather have new things to adapt to all the time than always see the exact same threats. IMO OU is actually the most "centralized" of all the tiers right now - people's teams seem to be more homogeneous than in UU or Ubers, not in terms of Pokémon but in a general sense of playstyle (Bulky Offense and Semi-Stall are almost all I see).
EDIT: Scizor has just a 3.32% difference between its OU and Uber usage, while Forretress is used a whopping 12.67% more often in Ubers than in OU! It's stuff like this that makes me love these stats.
They come out this month IIRC.
donphan just sucks period in OU. as a bulky ground its outclassed by swampert and hippowdon. rapid spin is really the only thing it has going for it, which has become even less useful with platinum's introduction of the rotom formes.
Roserade is leaving UU.... thats like taking Scizor straight out of OU; it will have a huge effect. Milotic will be even more unbreakable, and Vennusaur and Leafeon are the only offensive grasses left.
Also, where the hell did Crobat come from?!
Also, where the hell did Crobat come from?!
Porygon2 just can't catch a break, can he?
Random Pizzaman said:
Two words: Super Fang
Just the concepts of a UU Cresselia, Heracross, and Rhyperior, as well as an OU Roserade are pretty much unfathomable. Cresselia is a bitch to take down in the OU just as it is, and I can't really see any of these as positive changes to the metagame. Heracross, especially the SD Flame Orb set, shreds most teams to pieces, given that it has something to stop priority, and if a teammate has wish, it's gg. The UU metagame might just turn to Heracross raping everything that moves and Cresselia stalling out everything else. Albeit, this is just theorymon and we'll have to just try it out and see before we make any serious conclusions.
Also, Gyarados for #2!
Um yeah I know Donphan sucks, that wasn't my point. My point was, it seems people stopped using Donphan as much as before simply because of its new tiering. While I don't think it deserved even that much usage in first place, the fact that it fell so hard so fast should not have happened in an objective metagame. It's not like Donphan became worse all of a sudden over the past three months.
Of course it is natural for people to behave like this, but it makes me wonder if there are UU Pokemon who can't reach their true potential just because of their tiering. I think Lanturn is one such Poke, for instance, but I that's not a subject for this thread. Just something to think about though IMO.
In ubers Scizors usage continues to rise, now at #7. Deo-E also takes back its title of most used lead from Deo-A. Not much else. Palkia seems to be gaining lots of popularity as Kyogre usage is still sky high.
In OU, not too much changes, although Smeargle leads being more common than Infernape seems odd. Still upset as 14% of Scizor are still running 252 HP.....
In UU, holy mackral. Mismagius is having a party down there. And we may have Alakazam and Rhyperior in there soon! Roseraide leaving will certainly make me like UU more though, I hate that thing.
NU is having some changed, but that tier is always unstable. Still, it hasn't even been a full month since HGSS move changes, and Aggron already has enough usage to get out of it. Good thing too, It eats NU for breakfast.
In OU, not too much changes, although Smeargle leads being more common than Infernape seems odd. Still upset as 14% of Scizor are still running 252 HP.....
In UU, holy mackral. Mismagius is having a party down there. And we may have Alakazam and Rhyperior in there soon! Roseraide leaving will certainly make me like UU more though, I hate that thing.
NU is having some changed, but that tier is always unstable. Still, it hasn't even been a full month since HGSS move changes, and Aggron already has enough usage to get out of it. Good thing too, It eats NU for breakfast.
Even though Magnezone usage dropped slightly, Shed Shell usage on Skarmory increased last month. Choice Band usage on Scizor went up while Life Orbs fell, and Leftovers on Scizor increased as well. Life Orb on Azelf has come way up, and Focus Sash and Choice Scarf have fallen.
