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Im trying to abuse a shiny Onix in Platinum,Iron Island (slot 6).
Here's what i do(standing in the first room of the cave,with the 2 ladders right and left):

1.Hit my seed and check with coin flips,obviously they match
2.My target frame is 72 with a synchronizer:
72 = 34 flips + 2 monster frame + 1 sweet scent + 1 turn (no wandering pokes)
3.Im getting a Geodude every single time

What am i doing wrong?
 
Cool Ivysaur said:
Im trying to abuse a shiny Onix in Platinum,Iron Island (slot 6).
Here's what i do(standing in the first room of the cave,with the 2 ladders right and left):

1.Hit my seed and check with coin flips,obviously they match
2.My target frame is 72 with a synchronizer:
72 = 34 flips + 2 monster frame + 1 sweet scent + 1 turn (no wandering pokes)
3.Im getting a Geodude every single time

What am i doing wrong?
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Hmm. Long time I abused a caught project but why the + 2 monster frame and 1 turn?
If you're target frame with a synchronizer is 72. Do 35 journal flips + 1 sweet scent?

EDIT: Sweet scent advances frame by 2 so no need for the turn. Also, if you're getting the Ivs then your encounter slot is wrong, so check your Ivs first. Otherwise you're just on the wrong frame.
 
I thought sweet scented pokes have a monster frame of 2.Also LightingFusion ones told me that sweet scent is +1 frame.
Correct me if im wrong.

EDIT:no,im not getting the IVs
 
Cool Ivysaur said:
I thought sweet scented pokes have a monster frame of 2.Also LightingFusion ones told me that sweet scent is +1 frame.
Correct me if im wrong.

EDIT:no,im not getting the IVs
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Then you're not hitting your frame. Try it my method and see if it works, at least get your target Ivs anyway.

Also, I think sweet scent is +1 (To the frame) and the monster you encounter is +1? Not sure about that though.

Edit: Oh yeah, check what Ivs you did hit and compare with your seed, you may only be 2-5 frames out.
 
Cool Ivysaur said:
Im trying to abuse a shiny Onix in Platinum,Iron Island (slot 6).
Here's what i do(standing in the first room of the cave,with the 2 ladders right and left):

1.Hit my seed and check with coin flips,obviously they match
2.My target frame is 72 with a synchronizer:
72 = 34 flips + 2 monster frame + 1 sweet scent + 1 turn (no wandering pokes)
3.Im getting a Geodude every single time

What am i doing wrong?
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I know there are no random NPCs where you are so thats not an issue, youve said there are no wanderers either....
Target Frame is 72, -1 monster frame, -1 sweet scent, = 35 page flips and no steps
 
I'm consistently getting frame 3 for Ho-0h, while walking 128 steps with 1 poke in my party. There are NO NPCs around. Any ideas? I'm using a repel to count the 1st 100 steps, then carefully walking the other 28. I've gotten frame 3 over 20 times now.

Any ideas?

Yeah. Weird. Just caught him without walking and he's on frame 2?! I don't remember this last time I caught him (last runthrough)!
 
Do you have any runners out right now? I forgot that I had a runner out a while back when i went for my Shaymin, and that caused me trouble for a little while.
 
Thanks guys,I got it :).
Seems that i was messing the 2 writen in the guide as an initial monster frame,doing 2+1.
But i guess the sweet scent is counted already and it's 1+1.
 
COKTAL said:
Do you have any runners out right now? I forgot that I had a runner out a while back when i went for my Shaymin, and that caused me trouble for a little while.
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LOLZ!!!! Yeah! I've got Entei out! xD This is my second runthrough, and I totally forgot about not catching him yet! xD I'm such a noob! I've been walking 128 steps each time for nothing for like 25 times now! >_<
 
No problem. I'm actually about to go catch my Darkrai on Platinum, and I don't remeber if I caught Cresselia after I got my shaymin, so now I'm trying to see if it's in one of my games lol. Hopefully mine will go by quickly with this RNG.

EDIT: Just ran into it while catching pokemon to fill up my journal. Let it run since I need an even frame anyways (but now it's @ 1 HP for later).
 
Alright I've been trying to RNG a Magikarp(for a Gyarados) and I can't seem to capture the right one. I'm using 390f02b8 for my seed, frame 876. Since a fished pokemon's frame is 4, I get 872. I then divide that by 2 and I get the number of journal flips I need. I can't seem to get the right results.

-All wild pokemon(fish, surf, grass, etc) are method J, correct?
-Does failing to fish a pokemon(ie "Not even a nibble") advance the frame?
-What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.
 
blasphemy1 said:
Alright I've been trying to RNG a Magikarp(for a Gyarados) and I can't seem to capture the right one. I'm using 390f02b8 for my seed, frame 876. Since a fished pokemon's frame is 4, I get 872. I then divide that by 2 and I get the number of journal flips I need. I can't seem to get the right results.

-All wild pokemon(fish, surf, grass, etc) are method J, correct? Yes
-Does failing to fish a pokemon(ie "Not even a nibble") advance the frame?Yes
-What am I doing wrong? And are you sure the slot for this seed guarantees you a catch "a pokemon's on the rod" when you fish because if not then you may be messing up the frames
Thanks.
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blasphemy1 said:
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm using RNG reporter and I don't see anything about fishing pokemon. Do I just have to get lucky?
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no when you get your encounter slot there should be another row that tells you when you use the rod if a pokemon will appear

EDIT: when you right click on your spread there should be an option for calculate encounter slot, click it then there will appear a window with values, there are tables that will tell you whether a pokemon will appear when you fish and if you will catch anything at all when you fish
 
Blackcharizard said:
Sorry could you elaborate on that? I dont understand. How do I kee track of how many I have taken?
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I usually use a normal repel. It lasts for exactly 100 steps. If you're going to have to take a crap ton of steps, then use the longer lasting repels. When my first repel is up, I know I've taken exactly 100 steps. If I need more, i use more.
 
Blackcharizard said:
So I reset the step counter every time I press the reset button on the poketch app?
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Oh! Wait! No, you mean that little poketch app??? Nah. That shouldn't reset unless you press the button on it. I thought you were talking about the "internal step counter" that resets with every 128 steps! xD
 
ok i did my calibrations and this is what i got..

seconds delays
13 596
12 598
13 614
13 598
13 600
13 604
13 604
13 610
13 598
13 610

so basically 598-614 delay, and im guessing that means all my delays will be even(is that good?).. but should the seconds be that low i only got one 12 but the rest 13. is that ok?
 
ckn said:
ok i did my calibrations and this is what i got..

seconds delays
13 596
12 598
13 614
13 598
13 600
13 604
13 604
13 610
13 598
13 610

so basically 598-614 delay, and im guessing that means all my delays will be even(is that good?).. but should the seconds be that low i only got one 12 but the rest 13. is that ok?
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no this does not guarantee all your delays will be even they may change and the seconds make sense as everyone's game is different although this is kind of a large delay range
 
Nexus said:
no this does not guarantee all your delays will be even they may change and the seconds make sense as everyone's game is different although this is kind of a large delay range
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so will that make RNG harder down the road or something?
 
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