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Just double checking before I save my game in the worng place and need to defeat the E4 again... In HG, the Latias is created the moment you leave the fan club in Vermillion... correct?

Edit: Nzash you have to do all 10 coin flips, then the amount of double taps required, then the total amount of flips listed also.
 
Edit: Nzash you have to do all 10 coin flips, then the amount of double taps required, then the total amount of flips listed also.

Well I just tried again and it wasn't shiny.
I know I have to do the 10, then doubletaps and flips if I am working with the taps/flips that the Dppt Time Finder gives me.. but what if I missed my target delay, copy the seed that I am actually on (after finding it via coin toss checking) and then generate shiny frames for that seed in the main window?

Since it didn't work twice in a row now, I'm starting to feel puzzled a bit :)
 
Well I just tried again and it wasn't shiny.
I know I have to do the 10, then doubletaps and flips if I am working with the taps/flips that the Dppt Time Finder gives me.. but what if I missed my target delay, copy the seed that I am actually on (after finding it via coin toss checking) and then generate shiny frames for that seed in the main window?

Since it didn't work twice in a row now, I'm starting to feel puzzled a bit :)

Oh I see what your doing there, then yeh you need to subtract the 10 from the new number, the easiest way to do that would be to do 2 more flips (12 total) and then subtract 1 double tap, then you still finish off with the flips listed
 
Oh I see what your doing there, then yeh you need to subtract the 10 from the new number, the easiest way to do that would be to do 2 more flips (12 total) and then subtract 1 double tap, then you still finish off with the flips listed

That worked. Thanks for clearing it up. I love how people are helpful here :toast:
 
It looks like, after reading the articles, that Emerald is easier to RNG on.

What are the advantages of doing it on platinum?
 
It looks like, after reading the articles, that Emerald is easier to RNG on.

What are the advantages of doing it on platinum?
You have better control over frame advancement while in emerald they just advance at about 60 frames/sec, the use of synchonizers and encounter slots in catching pokemon tht you want to catch while emerald is more random in wild pokemon encounters, and the greater number of available pokemon in platinum as opposed to emerald, those are just a few of the top of my head
 
Hey guys I need help.
I'm trying to RNG abuse for IVs XD

well, i've my seconds (16) and a delay between 595 and 613.

I want an egg with this Spread 31/31/31/30/30/31:
to get that spread i have on the time finder:
Seed : 250C0270
Delay : 603
time to hit is 12.00.16
frame is 10.
Date: 2021 01 21

How many flips do i have to do on the journal? frame of the egg is 10.
and do i have to press A while its 12.00.16 and hit a delay of 603 or should I hit my delay of the calibration phase? if not what do i need to do with a delay of 603?
 
Hey guys I need help.
I'm trying to RNG abuse for IVs XD

well, i've my seconds (16) and a delay between 595 and 613.

I want an egg with this Spread 31/31/31/30/30/31:
to get that spread i have on the time finder:
Seed : 250C0270
Delay : 603
time to hit is 12.00.16
frame is 10.
Date: 2021 01 21

How many flips do i have to do on the journal? frame of the egg is 10.
and do i have to press A while its 12.00.16 and hit a delay of 603 or should I hit my delay of the calibration phase? if not what do i need to do with a delay of 603?

16 secs seems a little high but if its what your comfortable with then who am I to argue, but yeh you SR at 12:00:00 so you hit A on the continue screen at 12:00:16 and hope you got your delay, But the frame 10 could be difficult of you have not calibrated the NPC movements. What I suggest you do is attempt to hit your seed and get the egg as quick as possible, then do your coin flips to see what seed you actually got (or catch a lvl 50+ poke and get your seed that way) then hatch the egg and find out what frame you landed on. From there you will know how many frames to advance to get to 10, remember 1 journal page with caught or defeated = 2 frames

Sorry about the wall of text, if that doesnt help let me know =D
 
Sorry for double-posting
Another question XD:
Now Frame of the egg is 3 and the frame of the time finder is 5.
i have to do these calcs 5-3: 2 and 2/2: 1
so do i have to flip 1 page?
(This is the first time that I use that so i'm totally newbie here xD)
Then I have to press start right? or B?
(If I press B I flip another page)
 
thanks.
And when I have an odd frame like 5,7,9...
Do i have to do 2,3,4 journal flips or 3,4,5 journal flips?
Since 1 journal page flip = 2 frames i need to know how many flips i have to do when i have an odd frame.
if i have 3 frame and I do 1 flip i reach 2 frame and if i do 2 flips i have 4 frame, so it's always even.
 
well since 1 flip add 2 each caught/defeated poke in journal with 3 as your base frame (base frames always change this time you have a odd ) would go 1 flip (2 + 3=) 5, 2 flip(2+2+3=) 7 and so on, basically as said in the guide just add 2, you are making it a bit more complicated than it is, this suppose to be the easy part :)
 
Exactly, thats why I try to calibrate the NPC movement before selecting a target frame, what you can do it flip to frame 9 and then wait a split second longer before claiming the egg and hope a NPC pops you onto frame 10. It all becomes easier the more you do it :)
 
If i'll try to abuse on another Platinum than the one im used to,will my average delay change??I abuse on my normal Plat and now want to abuse on a ROM.
I dont want to go through the calibration phase again... :(
 
If i'll try to abuse on another Platinum than the one im used to,will my average delay change??I abuse on my normal Plat and now want to abuse on a ROM.
I dont want to go through the calibration phase again... :(
Each game is different so most likely it will change not by anything dramatic but it may change
 
If i'll try to abuse on another Platinum than the one im used to,will my average delay change??I abuse on my normal Plat and now want to abuse on a ROM.
I dont want to go through the calibration phase again... :(

It doesn't take that long does it? To calibrate I mean.
Save in resort area, catch a poke, check your time/delay.
When I calibrate my Iv breeding, it takes me a total of 3 minutes to check time/date, enter game, do flips, collect egg, catch poke and check Ivs. And you only need a rough estimate to if it's similar to what you usually get. I expect it will be similar and only off by a little.
 
Well its hard for me to phrase this question since my English grammar sucks but I'll try my best. Short version is; I don't get delays.

To make it more informative it's more like, I don't know what I should do with the delay part. I know how to calibrate like taking note of which delay you got and seconds and such. But when it comes to actually beginning to reset for ivs and whatnot I don't get how I should use the delays I got from the calibration phase.

Since most of the delays I usually got is a lot of different ones and apart of each-others, I don't get how I'm suppose to accurately hit the delay I need for a certain spread. I also don't get what I should choose as average delay when I should look for a certain spread.

It would be nice if someone could shed a little light upon this, if not, I will continue SRing for ivs the normal way. It doesn't matter to me anyway ^^;
 
Well its hard for me to phrase this question since my English grammar sucks but I'll try my best. Short version is; I don't get delays.

To make it more informative it's more like, I don't know what I should do with the delay part. I know how to calibrate like taking note of which delay you got and seconds and such. But when it comes to actually beginning to reset for ivs and whatnot I don't get how I should use the delays I got from the calibration phase.

Since most of the delays I usually got is a lot of different ones and apart of each-others, I don't get how I'm suppose to accurately hit the delay I need for a certain spread. I also don't get what I should choose as average delay when I should look for a certain spread.

It would be nice if someone could shed a little light upon this, if not, I will continue SRing for ivs the normal way. It doesn't matter to me anyway ^^;

Well since I suggested it, I may as well and try to help :D.

It's hard to explain what delays are really, they're the time taken to get into a game.
If you're on Platinum, if you mash your A button as fast as you can, you should get a delay of 590-610.

Normally. I get a delay of 598,600,602,604. Choose the delays you’ll hit most. (for some reason, my delay is even in 2009 and 2010). Most people’s delay in 2010 should be odd on Platinum so you’re delay should be 597,599,601,603 because as you increase your year by 1, you’re delay goes down by 1.

Now, to get my “average” delay, I synched my clock with an eternal one, SR at 60 seconds and caught pokemon ,checked Iv sect.

If you after that information in the RNG reporter Seed Finder, it should give you a second value and delays value. The second value is basically just what second you hit in that minute when you entered the game, most people’s is 14/15 because they SR at 60 so it takes 14-15 seconds to enter the game. More info on the OP.

When breeding, you use this “delay” info with 14/15 – normally anyway.
You’re average delay could be (for the sake of argument) 598 which appears most often. So I use DPPt Time Finder select the year/date/time with seconds as 14 and a range of your delay. For me, I put 598-604 because I know eventually I’ll hit one of those delays.
So say your target time is 22:06:14 with a delay of 598. You would SR at 22:06:00 hoping you enter the game at 22:06:14 with a delay of 598. You can check your delay with 10 coin flips after you enter the game. Your delay changes around a bit depending on what you normally get, but eventually after several goes you should get your delay. This is what you are aiming for. To get the egg process ect. Read on.

You also have a target frame, this is the frame you will hit when you collect the egg.
To find the frame you are on at the moment, you just synch your time with an external clock, say 12:00. SR at 12:01 so you enter the game at 12:01:14. You collect the egg as fast as you can - remember to have journal up before you enter the game, so just change to 2 days after you saved.
After you collect egg, catch a poke to check delay to find your seed.
Then change the settings to "Breeding DPPT" and click generate.
Hatch egg, check Ivs, and see what frame you are on from the generated seed.

EDIT: I think I went a little offtopic but oh well.
 
Normally. I get a delay of 598,600,602,604. Choose the delays you’ll hit most. (for some reason, my delay is even in 2009 and 2010). Most people’s delay in 2010 should be odd on Platinum so you’re delay should be 597,599,601,603 because as you increase your year by 1, you’re delay goes down by 1.

Just to clear up the confusion in your mind, your delay itself never actually changes, the range and whether or not its odd or even will never change no matter what the year is. Where your getting confused is, the higher the year, the lower your 'target delay' is.

So if you need a delay of 603 in 2009 you can't get it because you'll get 602 or 604, but when you change the year to 2010, yout 'target delay' becomes 602 which you can now achieve. :)
 
Thanks for clearing out the Delay confusion guys. Im sorry if this is a late thank you ^^; I tried all night long testing rng abusing out for real =D I believe I managed to get what you guys are saying now. So thanks a lot! And hopefully I will manage to get some perfect IV abuse pokés now ^.^
 
So i have my Platinum ROM and I'm trying to RNG abuse for IVs on this ROM.
Here's what I've done:

I've my egg into the daycare with desired nature,abilty etc.
I've found out my sec and delay in the calibration phase.
16 as seconds and a delay between 595 and 613.

i've opened the time finder v. 7.10 and put these info:
Year: 2010
Month : 1 (January)
date: ALL
hour: ALL
minute: ALL
Second: 16
Min/Max Frame: / (ive left this empty)
Min/Max delays: 595/613
Spread is: 31/31/31/30/30/31

here's what I've got:

Seed: 2614026B
Date: 2010 01 22
time: 20.00.16
Delay:609
frame: 5

31/31/31/A/B/B
flip sequence:THTHHTHHHH

I have caught a ralts on january 5th, saved on january 19th 2010 and now I changed my date to 22nd january 2010, so now I have no caught/defeated pkmn on the first page of the journal and a caught ralts on the second page of the journal.

finally i've changed my time to 19.59.00.

I've entered the game and then soft resetted at 20.00.00
I've pressed A as quick as possible and entered in sinnoh.
I've done 2 jornal flips.
(Since my initial frame is always 1 i've done 2 journal flips to advance my frame to 5) then I collected the egg but the egg didn't have those IVs xD

Is there anything I can do to check my delay and frame? (I have RNG reporter v. 7.10)
Did I do everything correctly?
 
Your mistake is assuming the egg would come on frame 1. There are wandering NPCs in Solaceon, so you have to calibrate each time you go for an egg. What frame did you end up getting? Take that frame, subtract 4(for the 2 flips you did), and use that number as the frame the pokemon starts on.

EDIT: Wait, are you checking to make sure you hit the right seed with the coin flips?
 
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