Because Offence is the best Defence

At a Glance
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Team Building


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So straight up I knew I wanted Scizor and Lucario on my team. I know that both act as great sweepers / clean-ups. The attack coverage is great. Scizor alone covers 10 / 17 Types, and Lucario can either cover an extra two or three (Depending on Ice Punch / Crunch). Luckily for me, due to Scizors Typing, ground attacks aren't super effective (according to pokemon marriland) so at this point, I had a one pokemon with a huge weakness to fire (along with other types) and one with several weakness's. I needed a Pokemon to cover up my fire weakness, as well as other types. So...

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I chose Salamence. This team now had great coverage, as well as a small amount of bulk. I know what you're thinking. No-one should ever have a Scizor and a Lucario on their team. But I think the combo works great, and with Salamence their to help, the team is pretty un-stopable. At the moment, Hail Teams and Sandstorm Teams have trouble already. I decided I needed some more bulk, so I went with a bulky pokemon, that can also sweep well.

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Zapdos, who plays as a Phsical Defence in my team, seeing that fighting can be a problem, as well as various Ice attacks. (I know, Ice Beam is special, but Ice Shard and Ice Punch can hurt.) He also acts as a great wall / tank. He is quite effeciant against quite a lot of pokemon. I know needed a pokemon to cover up some weakness's.

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I threw T-Tar on my team, for several reasons. He is a great attacker, and can cover up the weakness that my team has. He also makes my team look colourful. lol. The main problem with my team now, is I need a Lead. So...
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Infernape, but not as standerd. I'm using him as an anti-lead. But i'll get into that later. Now, onto the team.

In Depth

The Anti-Lead
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Infernape @ Lum Berry
Naive
64 Atk / 252 Spe / 192 SpA

Close Combat
Fire Blast
Grass Knot
Fake Out


Basically, really easy set up.
I use Fake Out to break opponents Sash, and then attack.
Here's how I go with the Top 10 Leads;

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I use Fake Out, then Fire Blast

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I use Fake Out to break Sash, then Fire Blast

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I use Fake Out and then Close Combat.

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I use Fake Out, the Fire Blast (generally twice)

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I use Fake Out, then either CC or Grass Knot

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Fake Out, then Grass Knot

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Fake Out, just to buy a lttle bit of time. Then Fire Blast. Twice.

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Fake Out (for fun) and then CC.

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Fake Out, then CC

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Although dropping, andbeing used as Late-Game sweepers now, I can Fire Blast, or switch into Salamence (Expecting EQ) and then attack.

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Fake Out, and then CC.

So as we can see, I can do some damage to the Top 10 OU Leads. He also words as a great sweeper if I decide to switch.

The Sweeper #!

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Scizor @ Life Orb
Technician
Adamant

252 Atk / 224 Spe / 32 HP

Swords Dance
Bullet Punch
Brick Break
U-Turn


An SD Scizor, with a slight difference. I use SD to improve attack, then I use eith STAB + Technician + SD Bullet Punch to do some damage to almost any pokemon. Brick Break deals with Normal / Rock / Steel Pokemon. Also, can help against Lucario. U-Turn for when I need to switch, as well as doing damage on my way out. I found Scizor to be useful on nearly every team. Also, I went with Brick Break over SuperPower, because I don't like risking too much defence. It would also make SD useless.

The Sweeper #2

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Lucario @ Life Orb
Jolly
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

Swords Dance
Close Combat
ExteameSpeed
Ice Punch


Really Standard SD Lucario, basically I use SD then Sweep. Lucario is really special to my team, because of the amount of Hail teams these days. Now, i've gone with Jolly over Adamant because of the amount of Pokemon that I couldn't outspeed with Adamant. Now, a Jolly Lucario with Max Speed gives me a total of 306 Speed, which is enough to Outspeed an Adamant Salamence with a total of 299 Speed. Which is why Ice punch is here. It's my main Salamence counter. And I know that it sucks. As soon as Salamence DD's I've got no hope. I'd really like some help with that.


The Sweeper #3

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Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Jolly / Adamant
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

Dragon Dance
Crunch
Stone Edge
Aqua Tail


Basically DD Then Sweep.
Crunch is good for Ghosts and Psychics.
Stone Edge for Flying and so forth.
And Aqua Tail for the Fire / Rock / Ground and so forth. Mainly the types that threaten my team. Tyranitar can sweep pretty well, and takes out my main threats. I think Adamant is the Nature to ge with here, but i'm not sure. Help?

The Bulk

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Zapdos @ Leftovers
Bold
248 HP / 228 Def / 32 Spe

Thuderbolt
Roost
Heat Wave
Thunder Wave

A different set from the usual. Thunderbolt covers water / flying pokemon well, and acts as a Gyarados counter. If I don't think that I can KO Gyarados, i'll Thunder Wave and then let my team finish him off. Heat Wave to deal with Lucario's and Scizor as well as Skarmory. Also works well against Grass. Roost to heal up (It can annoy a lot of people) I just have to make sure not to Roost on an incoming EQ and i'll be fine.

The Final Sweeper

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Salamence @ Life Orb
Adamant / Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

Dragon Dance
Outrage
EQ
Stone Edge / Crunch

Really good Pokemon. Also, really Standard. Basically, DD then sweep. The main problem though, is I don't know if I should go Jolly or Adamant. I'm leaning towards Jolly, becasue if I have a bit of extra speed, I can KO more pokemon, but I don't get the extra power boost. Crunch would be good for Gengar and Alakazam, but Stone Edge would be helpful for Gyara. (I think i'm going with Crunch.)

Quick Notes:
1. This Team is for DS/ Wi-Fi, not Shoddy. That is why there is no "HP Ice" Or anything.
2. I really need help with a Salamance Counter.
3. Thanks for the help.
 
Threat List

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: Infernape, Scizor, Tyranitar.

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: Infernape. Salamence.
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: Lucario. Scizor.

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: Zapdos. Infernape.

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: Infernape.

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: Infernape. Scizor. Zapdos. Easy.

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: Lucario. Salamence.

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: Salamence.

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: Salamence. Tyranitar.

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: Lucario. Scizor. Zapdos. Salamence.

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: Salamence. Lucario.

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: Scizor. Lucario. Infernape.

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: Infernape. Lucario.
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: Zapdos.

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: Salamence. Tyranizar. Zapdos can help as well.

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: Lucario. Salamence.

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: Lucario. Salamence. Tyranitar.
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: Zapdos.

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: Infernape. Tyranitar.

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: Salamence. Tyranitar. Zapdos can help.
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: Infernape. Tyranitar.
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: Tyranitar. Salamence.

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: Salamence. Zapdos.

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: Salamence. Scizor.

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: Scizor. Lucario. Salamence. Zapdos.

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: Zapdos.

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: Scizor. Lucario. Salamence. Tyranitar.

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: Scizor. Lucario. Infernape.

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: Infernape. Salamence. Zapdos.

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: Zapdos. Infernape.

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: Infernape. Scizor. Zapdos.

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: Salamence.

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: Salamence. Lucario. Zapdos can help.

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: Zapdos.

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: Infernape. Lucario. Scizor.

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: Infernape. Scizor. Lucario.

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: Zapdos.
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: Zapdos. If switched into Infernape, he can Grass Knot.

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: Infernape. Scizor.

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: Zapdos. Salamence.

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: Scizor. Lucario. Zapdos.
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: Lucario. Scizor. Salamence. Even another Tyranitar.

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: Scizor. Zapdos.

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: Lucario. Scizor.

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: Zapdos. Salamence. Tyranitar.
 
The first thing i noticed is the lack of a focus sash on infernape. The only reason to run a lum berry would be if you have ridiculous amounts of trouble with scarf smeargle. As it stands now If azelf decides to attack before they set up rocks, you lost a lead and have an Azelf to deal with.
Tyranitar could get a DD in on said azelf though, so it really is up to you.
With your massive Mence-Gyara weakness though you really need SR. I suggest going to the Standard infernape lead.

I see your mence weakness, which is also a pretty big gyara weakness. I suggest replacing Zapdos with a Scarf latias. Zapdos isn't doing anything to stop Gyara or Salamence, and i think with the fast pace this team runs you could afford to lose a little physical bulk. While you gain more speed with this option you also lose a scizor counter.
Another option is:

Suicune/Leftovers/Bold
172 HP/ 128 SpA/ 216 Spe
Calm Mind
Surf
Ice beam
Hidden Power Electric
This set gives you a great Salamence and Gyarados, as well as keeping the pace up. YOu could shift more ev's into Defense if you wanted an even surer Gyara counter, or you could just use the Resttalker set, with Roar.

Good Luck!
 
just letting you know, jolly is the nature of chance on ddtar. you're too slow to get away with adamant because you lose out on being able to outspeed the base 110-115 range. Also, babiri berry and fire punch are good choices because of scizor. An added plus to this is that you may succeed in luring out and killing scizor, thus freeing up mence for a sweep. Speaking of mence, fire blast is the best option for the 3rd move for things like skarmory, bronzong, forry, and scizor. Crunch is a terrible option because a neutral outrage is more powerful than a super effective crunch
 
Hi,

I notice lots of weaknesses on this team to many of the common threats in today's metagame, including Salamence, Infernape, and Gyarados to an extent. To patch this up I suggest a Choice Scarf Latias set to replace Lucario.

Latias @ Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
~ Draco Meteor
~ Surf
~ Thunderbolt
~ Trick

The set checks +1 Adamant Salamence, +1 Gyarados, and Infernape all in one. Trick is there basically to get rid of walls that like to switch in to Latias. Latias also fixes your gaping ground and fire weaknesses you had with Lucario.

Next, since you now have 3 dragon types, I suggest switching Zapdos to Vaporeon. Why? It helps a ton against your weaknesses so far, also checking Salamence, Gyara, and Nape. It patches your ice weakness and gives your team much needed wish support.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe
Bold Nature
~ Wish
~ Protect
~ Surf
~ Hidden Power Electric

gl with the team.
 
The first thing i noticed is the lack of a focus sash on infernape. The only reason to run a lum berry would be if you have ridiculous amounts of trouble with scarf smeargle. As it stands now If azelf decides to attack before they set up rocks, you lost a lead and have an Azelf to deal with.
Tyranitar could get a DD in on said azelf though, so it really is up to you.
With your massive Mence-Gyara weakness though you really need SR. I suggest going to the Standard infernape lead.

I see your mence weakness, which is also a pretty big gyara weakness. I suggest replacing Zapdos with a Scarf latias. Zapdos isn't doing anything to stop Gyara or Salamence, and i think with the fast pace this team runs you could afford to lose a little physical bulk. While you gain more speed with this option you also lose a scizor counter.
Another option is:

Suicune/Leftovers/Bold
172 HP/ 128 SpA/ 216 Spe
Calm Mind
Surf
Ice beam
Hidden Power Electric
This set gives you a great Salamence and Gyarados, as well as keeping the pace up. YOu could shift more ev's into Defense if you wanted an even surer Gyara counter, or you could just use the Resttalker set, with Roar.

Good Luck!

Thanks for the rate.
The only problem with getting Suicune, is that this is a team for DS. And the only way I could get a Suicune is either wait until HG SS come out and then SR until I can get one with the right nature, as well as HP Electric.

And the same with Latias. Even though i've started up my Emerald again, the odds of me getting the right Latias are way agaisnt me.

Thanks for the rate.
 
Hi,

I notice lots of weaknesses on this team to many of the common threats in today's metagame, including Salamence, Infernape, and Gyarados to an extent. To patch this up I suggest a Choice Scarf Latias set to replace Lucario.

Latias @ Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
~ Draco Meteor
~ Surf
~ Thunderbolt
~ Trick

Although I really like Latias, I can't get one with ease. Let alone one with the right nature and good IV's.

The set checks +1 Adamant Salamence, +1 Gyarados, and Infernape all in one. Trick is there basically to get rid of walls that like to switch in to Latias. Latias also fixes your gaping ground and fire weaknesses you had with Lucario.

Next, since you now have 3 dragon types, I suggest switching Zapdos to Vaporeon. Why? It helps a ton against your weaknesses so far, also checking Salamence, Gyara, and Nape. It patches your ice weakness and gives your team much needed wish support.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe
Bold Nature
~ Wish
~ Protect
~ Surf
~ Hidden Power Electric

Thanks for the counter. However, I have two capable pokemon that are good Ice counters. The only thing I could have a problem with, is when Gyara has Ice Fang.

Thanks for the Rate.

gl with the team.
 
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