Works for me. Thank you.
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I need some help with RNG Breeding in HG. I tried to RNG a shiny and I think I got that process to work but it skipped Egg frame 1 (which was my shiny :( ) and gave me Egg frame 2 as the first egg.
Since I needed to breed for IV's anyway I then tried to RNG breed for IV's. I was following this guide http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpp_rng_part3 making some changes due to being HG and not DPPt. I'm in the frame calibration part, step 10, and no matter what frame I pick the egg up on, I can not find IV's matching anything remotely in the list generated. So I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong. I've verified my seed twice (and am using a savestate to keep it on that seed). I do have the Quick Hatch cheat on, so perhaps that is screwing with the IV's, but I don't know, it's just a thought.
My seed is 860902CC and my IV's come out 23/17/31/28/4/18, when talking to the Daycare guy immediately after reset.
Also I'm using the updated 7.20 Beta
Anyone have any ideas on what I'm doing wrong with calibrating the frames?
Since I needed to breed for IV's anyway I then tried to RNG breed for IV's. I was following this guide http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpp_rng_part3 making some changes due to being HG and not DPPt. I'm in the frame calibration part, step 10, and no matter what frame I pick the egg up on, I can not find IV's matching anything remotely in the list generated. So I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong. I've verified my seed twice (and am using a savestate to keep it on that seed). I do have the Quick Hatch cheat on, so perhaps that is screwing with the IV's, but I don't know, it's just a thought.
My seed is 860902CC and my IV's come out 23/17/31/28/4/18, when talking to the Daycare guy immediately after reset.
Also I'm using the updated 7.20 Beta
Anyone have any ideas on what I'm doing wrong with calibrating the frames?
I'm going for the following seed of 8a03095c which gives me an adamant male spread of 31/31/31/21/31/31 at frame 52. Normally that's a timid spread but in my game based on ID/SID it becomes adamant as a chained shiny. Using Wichu's PokeRNG program I can generate a list of physical spread and sort by lowest frames and go by that.
Speaking of seeds, I'm looking for a good seed for a Modest HP Ice spread.
Does anybody happen to have one?
Thanks :3
Does anybody happen to have one?
Thanks :3
Here are some :)
They all have high frames though besides the bolded one (atleast imo)
But if you want you can search for them on higher delays with lower frames using PokeRNG
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1821884&postcount=3
I only searched for seeds with the average DPPt Delays so =/
328353567F 07eb7f83 (MODEST, ability 1) 31/10/30/31/31/31 (Seed: 33040263 Frame: 9842) HP ICE 70
2158792872F e97346b1 (MODEST, ability 1) 30/15/30/31/31/31 (Seed: ac030264 Frame: 35880) HP ICE 70
2297905486F 0703b6e4 (MODEST, ability 0) 30/10/30/31/31/31 (Seed: 0805028a Frame: 1328) HP ICE 70
2868449766F 2ec758ed (MODEST, ability 1) 30/7/30/31/31/31 (Seed: 6511028c Frame: 4030) HP ICE 70
2158792872F e97346b1 (MODEST, ability 1) 30/15/30/31/31/31 (Seed: ac030264 Frame: 35880) HP ICE 70
2297905486F 0703b6e4 (MODEST, ability 0) 30/10/30/31/31/31 (Seed: 0805028a Frame: 1328) HP ICE 70
2868449766F 2ec758ed (MODEST, ability 1) 30/7/30/31/31/31 (Seed: 6511028c Frame: 4030) HP ICE 70
What's your ID\SID?
Super quick question:
Walking from non-grass straight ahead into grass with wild Pokemon will advace my frame by 1, right? :3
EDIT: Nevermind, I was just asking to reconfirm. I went with it anyway, and it worked :P
Walking from non-grass straight ahead into grass with wild Pokemon will advace my frame by 1, right? :3
EDIT: Nevermind, I was just asking to reconfirm. I went with it anyway, and it worked :P
I'm new to HGSS RNG abusing.
I'm just wondering what does offset mean? I didn't get any idea what it means, and I haven't found any posts yet telling what it mean.
What if I don't check the HG/SS Delay checkbox from the Time Finder when finding my seed/delay?
I'm just wondering what does offset mean? I didn't get any idea what it means, and I haven't found any posts yet telling what it mean.
What if I don't check the HG/SS Delay checkbox from the Time Finder when finding my seed/delay?
Do you have any roamers out in your game? They cause your starting frame to increase by 1 per roamer. IE 1 roamer = +1 frame, 5 roamers = +5 frames. Either that, or you just waited a bit before collecting your egg. If you got it ASAP, then hopefully, your egg frame will be around 14. Yes, you might get a few resets with a frame of 13 or 15, due to NPC movement like you said. After you've gotten a good handle on finding your frame, now you can search for an IV spread that you'd like to get. This is under the Time Finder tab, I forget the name of the tab you'll use after that, but it's not the capture or the shiny egg one :P
All you do is pick a month and a year you'd like to hatch your egg in, and your average delay range. For the box with the starting frame, I usually start with your calibrated frame, so I don't have to bother with journal flips, and go upwards of 98 or 99. Make sure to click the option for the even / odd frame to match your starting frame. This way you'll only get even frames if you put in 14, and odd if you put in 13. Don't forget to select the IV's you want your egg to have in the upper right corner. Give RNG Reporter a minute or so to find some spreads, and you should get a list of different seeds. If you don't find any, or any you like for that matter, just change around the month and or the max frame. Changing the year may give you different seeds, I'm not completely sure. It will however just change the delay needed to hit the seeds. In the list of IV's A is your first parent, and B is your second. So, 31/A/31/x/x/B would give the first parent's attack and the second parent's speed to the new baby.
If you find one you like, now you can start soft resting for your seed. Make sure that your journal will open up before you enter the game, as you'll need to do your flips and then get your egg before the NPCs can move. Your number of flips will be ( your seed's frame - your calibrated frame ) / 2. Say your seed's frame is 20, and your frame was 4. 20 - 4 = 16, and 16 / 2 = 8. So you'd do 8 flips and then collect your egg. After collecting your egg, you can use the coin app to see which seed you hit. You'll want to right click on your seed, and choose generate adjacent results. Fill in the values of the next box, usually +/- 1 second, +/- 1 frame, and +/- 20 delay( or w/e number you feel like using). Now you can use the search by flips button to record your 10 coin flips, and if any of the adjacent seeds match, it'll show you which one you hit. Just be careful though, even if your flips match your target seed, you might have hit the wrong frame. So unless you're using an AR code to see inside the egg, hatch it to make sure it's right!
Hopefully that should help you, it's been awhile since I've bred anything, so I may have made a slight mistake. If anyone finds anything wrong, please correct me! :)
Well it seems using the realtime save was screwing up my frame numbers. When I did the process without using a realtime save then the process worked fine (except the IV's are close to the RNG Reporter prediction, but off slightly, as mentioned in post 2).
So I guess I will use DPPt for breeding for now.
You're using savestates? What format? Can you send me the file, or upload an attachment?
More importantly, what IVs are the parents?
Parents IVs:
A (Ditto/Adamant): 17/17/10/30/ 6/18
B (Totodile/Docile): 14/16/11/28/30/30
These were my results using no save state:
Seed 771002A2
Seed verified by Drowzee Bold 11/14/7/29/24/2 @ 3/21/2010 16:01
Baby (Totdile/Quirky):17/11/21/24/30/18
Which is presumably: A/11/21/24/B/A
Frame 7 (the closest): A/11/21/A/B/17
My average frame was 5, but this time it looked like 7 was the closest matching frame.
I'll get you a test set using a save state soon.
Edit:
These were my results when making a savestate as soon as I entered the game world.
Verified Seed: 8A100206
Baby IV: 27/16/7/28/30/29
Frame 7: 27/B/7/22/B/29
Should be: 27/B/7/B/B/29
So the savestate doesn't seem to screw it up, I just missed it the first times.
If you want I can get you more results, just let me know.
Edit 2:
Another result from the savestate, this time RNG Reporter was correct.
Baby IV: 17/16/19/25/30/31
Frame 13:A/B/19/25/B/31
Expected:A/B/19/25/B/31
Yeah I saw you say that, which is why I'll probably use Platinum to breed. I just need my 2nd DS back :).
Also check out my 2nd edit above, I got a complete match with the RNG Reporter.
Sorry for interrupting, but no one can solve my problem. So I was breeding a Male Smeargle with a Female NidoranF. I had all the egg moves on it intended for a bred NidoranF. I hit my seed, flip the correct number of times, tap the correct number of times, and then I hatch the egg. I was going for Shiny Relaxed Ability 1 and that was indeed what I got. But for some strange reason, NidoranF and Smeargle bred a NidoranM. Just to let you know, the PID says that no matter what percent, this PID will be Female. Does anyone have any clue as to what I did wrong? No, I didn't tap too many times and no I didn't flip too many times.
Woah. I'm using the new RNGReporter 7.2 and I can't find the seed I hit.
EDIT: In the new reporter, instead of 1 tap and 7 flips it says -1 tap and -2 flips. This is the exact same seed that the old reporter told me to hit.
Woah. I'm using the new RNGReporter 7.2 and I can't find the seed I hit.
EDIT: In the new reporter, instead of 1 tap and 7 flips it says -1 tap and -2 flips. This is the exact same seed that the old reporter told me to hit.
Very helpful tips but I'm trying this on a legit cartridge of Heart Gold so how am I suppose to deduce my PID?
don't want to get skipped again.
@acinod, what do you mean? If cyndaquil is shiny then you hit your target.
You get the PID from RNG Reporter.
If you're asking how do you know if it worked, well your pokemon will be shiny when you are selecting it :)
OK, so I've found a PID I liked for my Cyndaquil spread and put it into Pandora's Box which I then inputed the ID/SID back into the the time finder. I found the spread I want and it is also shiny. Now I right clicked the one and only spread found and clicked generate times...
Now what do I do? All the delays given are 531 but there are many different times given. How do I go about starting a new game? Like say there was one time where it is: 2010 03 01|02:58:59|531 how do I get my shiny Cyndaquil from there?
Now what do I do? All the delays given are 531 but there are many different times given. How do I go about starting a new game? Like say there was one time where it is: 2010 03 01|02:58:59|531 how do I get my shiny Cyndaquil from there?
don't forget my question.
anyways, you just hit the delay at that specified time. in this case, the delay is 531 and the date and time is 2010 03 01 02:58:59. if you don't know hot to hit this then you just flat out can't rng.
anyways, you just hit the delay at that specified time. in this case, the delay is 531 and the date and time is 2010 03 01 02:58:59. if you don't know hot to hit this then you just flat out can't rng.
Have you created a new game profile with your desired ID/SID combo?
If not follow the steps outlined in these 2 posts to do that:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2544971&postcount=16438
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1822052&postcount=10
Once you do that, or if you already had done that, then you need to use emloop or pikatimer, both can be found on the first page of this thread. And start your game so that you hit continue at 2:58:59 with a delay of 531 from when you reset. Which is pretty much the general RNG process.
You can check out more details in this guide: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpp_rng_part2
Hope that helps.
imapedarsag - If I had any clue I would certainly help you, unfortunately I don't have a clue on your question, I'm sure someone will come around and help you out though.
Thanks that is great help. The first post says that the average delay for HG is 5000-5700. What would it be for me if I also want to spend time inputting my trainer name?
thanks for the optimism, but i highly doubt anyone knows because ive asked it several times and those who have tried to help gave up. I know their trying to help, but no one knows the answer to this, and i mean no one.
I can tell you that on my Heart Gold I went for a delay of 5600 or so and had about half a minute to spare with ample time to enter my name.
EDIT: As for the Nidorans... Breeding Nidoran is a special case; female Nidorans can either produce male or female Nidorans, but male Nidorans with Ditto can only produce male Nidorans. So, maybe the game uses a different method than normal to determine gender? Illumise and Volbeat are int he same boat; perhaps you could test it by breeding an Illumise with the same seed and see if you get Illumise (as RNG Reporter would imply) or Volbeat (as your experience might indicate)?
OK, so the seed I need to meet to get an ID of 19244 and SID of 43872 is 5C1615EA.
I put it into the Seed to Times and chose: 2010 03 27|22:11:00|5600. So I SR the game at that time and entered my name within a few seconds and in the end, got an ID No. 60717. So what should I do to hit my seed better in the future?
EDIT: I plugged in the Trainer ID i got (60717) into the Seed Finder as well as the time and delay range. It says I hit a seed of 7B1613CF with a delay of 5061 and 31 seconds. What could this mean?
I put it into the Seed to Times and chose: 2010 03 27|22:11:00|5600. So I SR the game at that time and entered my name within a few seconds and in the end, got an ID No. 60717. So what should I do to hit my seed better in the future?
EDIT: I plugged in the Trainer ID i got (60717) into the Seed Finder as well as the time and delay range. It says I hit a seed of 7B1613CF with a delay of 5061 and 31 seconds. What could this mean?