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Is it possible to use Seed Verifier to check my seed AFTER receiving an egg from the Daycare? For example, if I were to pick up an egg on Frame 7, could I immediately open the Pokegear and start calling Elm to make sure I hit my seed without hatching the egg? If so, what frame could I expect the calls to start on? 8?
 
Is it possible to use Seed Verifier to check my seed AFTER receiving an egg from the Daycare? For example, if I were to pick up an egg on Frame 7, could I immediately open the Pokegear and start calling Elm to make sure I hit my seed without hatching the egg? If so, what frame could I expect the calls to start on? 8?

In theory, yes. In practice, no. More than likely you won't be always be fast enough to click before the NPC moves, and that will screw over your seed verification.

Save yourself the trouble and just catch a Pokemon to verify. The new Search by IV Range in the Seed Finder lets you verify your seed with one Pokemon caught at Mt. Silver and a Rare Candy. (You will have to use an IV calculator like Metalkid's. Does anyone still use that?)
 
are there wild pokemon at the base of the burned tower? (where Suicune, Entei, and Raikou are) I don't want any unnecessary advancements.... especially if I'm gonna be trying to hit low frames....
 
yes there are wild pokemon in that area

DAMMIT..... Inconsistencies....

EDIT: in that case... would it be smarter to RNG them after the E4...? (well during technically... but you know what I mean) that would help with other RNG projects... but wouldn't it be harder to RNG them?
 
DAMMIT..... Inconsistencies....

EDIT: in that case... would it be smarter to RNG them after the E4...? (well during technically... but you know what I mean) that would help with other RNG projects... but wouldn't it be harder to RNG them?
No, it isn't because there is a NPC in the E4 that will give you more inconsistences than abusing them in the burned tower...

EDIT: actually there are no inconsistencies in the burned tower O.o
 
No, it isn't because there is a NPC in the E4 that will give you more inconsistences than abusing them in the burned tower...

EDIT: actually there are no inconsistencies in the burned tower O.o

well... as Nexus said... there are wild pokes on the bottom... so each step would make it so that it advances my frames inconsistently.... so taking a step forward to make them run would add to my frame.... and how would I ever know what it would be?
 
I have a small update for PikaTimer, version 2.0.2. I fixed a bug that prevented it from working on many computers in countries other than the United States, and hopefully the Create Timer button should function properly for everyone.

The major improvements are coming as soon as I can get them finalized!
 
you don't have to do steps, you can save just one step before releasing them because the next step doesnt advance the frames since there are no wild pokes on it
 
well... as Nexus said... there are wild pokes on the bottom... so each step would make it so that it advances my frames inconsistently.... so taking a step forward to make them run would add to my frame.... and how would I ever know what it would be?

no, it doesn't. I was abusing for Raikou for a ridiculous length of time, and every for every one of my attempts, I found that the step to release the dogs does not advance the frame.
 
I assume you're breeding for IVs, right?

1. Hitting your delay mostly requires trial and error. The guides are written on the assumption that you'll work out what delay you get most often from button mashing and then aim for that delay in future; if that's your method, you might want to adjust the year of your DS to make the delay an easier one to hit. Alternatively you can use a timer such as emloop to help you hit any delay.
2. Yes, use the coin flip to check what your initial seed was after you've done the frame advancements with the journal and picked the egg up. This saves the time it would take to hatch the egg.
3. As with the delay, you can either button mash and aim for your most frequent one or use a timer to hit any time you desire...

yes, iv breeding rng abuse.

yeah i focus more on button mashing, i haven't got patience to read the whole emloop timer thing; but is that more accurate than button mashing?

also when im like hitting a target of april 02, 2010 i can adjust the year, as you said to say april 02, 2011? is it better to advance the year or decrease it, or either?

Thanks for clearing up things for me. :)
 
Hatching for shiny Eggs\Eggs of a certain nature

Unlike DPPt, HGSS does not have the benefit of coin flips and happiness taps, which were used to skip through eggs until one of the desired nature and\or shininess is found. In HGSS, eggs must be hatched one at a time until the desired egg is reached. RNG Reporter (link in signature) has an option to search for very low egg PID frames, making it possible to find a shiny egg on the very first.

Do I hatch to hatch the eggs? I'm just saying no instead of picking them up + hatching them and I'm not getting the correct nature when I'm on the target egg :/
 
well... as Nexus said... there are wild pokes on the bottom... so each step would make it so that it advances my frames inconsistently.... so taking a step forward to make them run would add to my frame.... and how would I ever know what it would be?
You could try the current seed finder of Elm Method, it can help if you roughly know your frame^^
 
Hatching for shiny Eggs\Eggs of a certain nature

Unlike DPPt, HGSS does not have the benefit of coin flips and happiness taps, which were used to skip through eggs until one of the desired nature and\or shininess is found. In HGSS, eggs must be hatched one at a time until the desired egg is reached. RNG Reporter (link in signature) has an option to search for very low egg PID frames, making it possible to find a shiny egg on the very first.

Do I hatch to hatch the eggs? I'm just saying no instead of picking them up + hatching them and I'm not getting the correct nature when I'm on the target egg :/

You can reject the eggs.
 
You could try the current seed finder of Elm Method, it can help if you roughly know your frame^^

Except at that point in the game you can't use phone calls to Elm or roamers, so Sweet Scent + check IVs is the only reliable method.

yes, iv breeding rng abuse.

yeah i focus more on button mashing, i haven't got patience to read the whole emloop timer thing; but is that more accurate than button mashing?

also when im like hitting a target of april 02, 2010 i can adjust the year, as you said to say april 02, 2011? is it better to advance the year or decrease it, or either?

Thanks for clearing up things for me. :)

Increasing the year by one decreases the delay by one and vice versa. So, if you're able to consisently hit a delay of 600 and your target is 625 in 2010, just change it to 2035 and you'll be aiming for a 600 delay.
 
ive soft resetted to many times, im thinking that there is pretty much no luck here. i really need help with emloop now, i ve tried.

so the moment i change the time on my ds, i also turn on the emloop timer right? when should i start my game, when the timer reaches 0? i keep getting weird results by the way and i start my game by pressing a on the menu screen when the timer reaches 5 seconds, there are instances when sometimes its 15 seconds when i should be aiming for 14, sometimes even i get 11 seconds which is more weird; but i always do my best to be quicker than before. can anyone tell me what am i doing wrong?

also i myself have an odd frame number.
 
ive soft resetted to many times, im thinking that there is pretty much no luck here. i really need help with emloop now, i ve tried.

so the moment i change the time on my ds, i also turn on the emloop timer right? when should i start my game, when the timer reaches 0? i keep getting weird results by the way and i start my game by pressing a on the menu screen when the timer reaches 5 seconds, there are instances when sometimes its 15 seconds when i should be aiming for 14, sometimes even i get 11 seconds which is more weird; but i always do my best to be quicker than before. can anyone tell me what am i doing wrong?

also i myself have an odd frame number.

Still need more information.. but the basic is you soft reset when the first timer reaches 0... press A like a crazy till you get to the continue screen.. wait there till the second timer reaches 0 and then enter in the game

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