Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.

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I think, "running out of types to give Eevee," is enough criteria. The only thing for me is that all Eevee types look generic. Dark type is black, Fire is red, Water is blue, Electric is Yellow etc

If they wanted to make a Flying type they would have to drastically alter Eevees look, the same could be said for Fighting and Dragon as well but not, I don't think, Steel, or say, Ground. "Make them silver and brown," is all the thought process they usually need.

As for a normal type it would be like, "Okay so we found out Eevee could evolve into x different types before we realised it naturally evolves into the same typing." No.
 
Latias is the one example of a defensive dragon in OU, but with 110 speed, latias is the fastest dragon in the tier.

Kingdra in the rain says yo, wassup?

Is it just me that really wishes Kingdra's offensive stats were just a little bit better? Like, lower its defenses to 80 each and bump up the offeses to 110, and suddenly, you have a very powerful little guy. If only four-stage evolutions were possible..
 
I always thought the Eeveelutions were supposed to be elementals (Espeon and Umbreon are pushing it but good/evil or day/night could still fit). That said, I think the most likely types for Eeveelutions are Ground, Rock, Steel, and maybe pure Flying, if they finally give us one of those. I guess Poison could work too.
 
I always thought that Eeveelutions were supposed to be Gen 1-3 special types.

Therefore Dragon is left in the current eevee chain :V

Maybe Gen 6 will kick off the physical eevees. Maybe not.
 
How the hell would Flying work? I'm not even sure how it's possible to epitomize the essence of flight without levitation or wings, neither of which can be portrayed effectively as a standalone. Having a pure Flying type doesn't even sound interesting.

I wouldn't mind a Poison or Steel Eevee, though. It actually sounds like they can do something cool with those.
 
Clouds, man. Galeon or whatever would be cloud based. Clouds don't fly in the strictest sense, but they could get away with calling a cloud eevee Flying.
 
Kingdra in the rain says yo, wassup?

Is it just me that really wishes Kingdra's offensive stats were just a little bit better? Like, lower its defenses to 80 each and bump up the offeses to 110, and suddenly, you have a very powerful little guy. If only four-stage evolutions were possible..

Kingdra is not a defensive pokemon, under any circumstance . . . its only good resistance is water, it's weak to the most prominent offensive type in the game. It's defensive stats are ok, but only good enough to avoid being outright ohko'd by most offensive pokemon in OU (it's 2hko'd by most). Meaning the defenses are good enough to give Kingdra that 1 turn it needs to set up (and enough to endure a couple weak priority moves), but definitely not strong enough to act as a tank like other bulky waters. Not while it is also ev'd to sweep, which is really its best function.

Even if you did EV it like a tank, it's so outclassed by other bulkier water types in raw defenses and support move pool that there's no reason to use it. Weakness to OU's best offensive type doesn't help. One of the strong points of bulky waters is that their only weaknesses, electric and grass, have lots of pokemon who are either immune or heavily resist them (so tack on cele-tran to the team and Vaporeon is free to come and go as it pleases). Kingdra as a slow tank just opens invitations for Salamence and Latias to come in and wreck your team with their STAB moves.

Frankly speaking, Flygon has more defensive value than Kingdra-- at least flygon has immunity to electric and ground as other useful resistances on which to switch in and threaten the enemy (and with its resistances to almost all passive damage, it's even better at this job).
 
Kingdra is not a defensive pokemon, under any circumstance . . . its only good resistance is water, it's weak to the most prominent offensive type in the game. It's defensive stats are ok, but only good enough to avoid being outright ohko'd by most offensive pokemon in OU (it's 2hko'd by most). Meaning the defenses are good enough to give Kingdra that 1 turn it needs to set up (and enough to endure a couple weak priority moves), but definitely not strong enough to act as a tank like other bulky waters. Not while it is also ev'd to sweep, which is really its best function.

Even if you did EV it like a tank, it's so outclassed by other bulkier water types in raw defenses and support move pool that there's no reason to use it. Weakness to OU's best offensive type doesn't help. One of the strong points of bulky waters is that their only weaknesses, electric and grass, have lots of pokemon who are either immune or heavily resist them (so tack on cele-tran to the team and Vaporeon is free to come and go as it pleases). Kingdra as a slow tank just opens invitations for Salamence and Latias to come in and wreck your team with their STAB moves.

Frankly speaking, Flygon has more defensive value than Kingdra-- at least flygon has immunity to electric and ground as other useful resistances on which to switch in and threaten the enemy (and with its resistances to almost all passive damage, it's even better at this job).


If you read the whole quote I replied to, and noticed that i said Kingdra in the RAIN, you would realise I was replying to ChouToshio's comment that Latias is the fastest Dragon in OU, which it isn't - In the rain, Kingdra outspeeds everything.
 
floatzel is not a dragon but in rain it become the faster pokemon in the entire game (even faster then scarf deoxys speed form) but that aside i dont think we should count weather effects when talking about the pokemon base stats, kingdra is only fast in rain so if he got no rain his speed is average at best, its almost like if you were going to make it rain only say kingdra is faster.
 
ok, to those speaking of a pure flying type, i don´t hink it will happen: The reason there are no pure flying types and all flying types are a secondary typing is because (IMO) flying wasn´t originally supposed to be a type on its own, look at it this way, in the 1st gen there were no abilities (levitate) so if they wanted to make a pokemon evade ground attacks they ahad no way of doing it, so they created a "complementary" typing for making pokemon evade ground, and once they realised that they would create a new type, they went ahead and added weaknesses resistances, etc. If you think about it this way, it makes sense that there are no main typed flying types or pure slying types at all, since it is not a type on its own, it just indicates itts ability to fly. for example, staraptor, it is a normal bird, no special caracteristics about it, therefore it is normal type but since it has got wngs it gets the ability to fly, getting the flying type.
 
I don't think its ever been said that Eevee must evolve into one of the original "Special" types... its just a trend. It can easily be broken, so maybe there could be a Steel or Bug Eeveelution.
 
The Flying type was originally meant to be Bird, but they changed it, probably because of the number of flying Pokemon that aren't birds.

I do wonder why they made all the birds Normal/Flying. Pure Flying would make sense. As I mentioned previously, a pure-Flying Pokemon now ought to be something that never lands. Albatross is an obvious basis. Bird-of-paradise might make sense also - historically, stuffed specimens had their unsightly feet removed, and the group is very showy, good for Pokemon concepts.
 
I think the point is that it's the environment that determines Eevee's evolution. Therefore, it would always be something elemental, such as electric, fire, etc.

Dragons have been said to possess an enormous amount of life energy or something, I can't remember exactly, but it seems not to far off from having a psychic eeveelution.

However, this would mean that a fighting of bug or steel or whatever eeveelution would be highly unlikely.
 
Yes, but a pure flying type loses out on roost, because it never lands. maybe Gamefreak has that in mind, after all they aren't completely oblivious to how Stealth Rock exists, they made it after all. This Pokemon would need some other way to recover, and for a bird, what would it do other than roost?
 
Yes, but a pure flying type loses out on roost, because it never lands. maybe Gamefreak has that in mind, after all they aren't completely oblivious to how Stealth Rock exists, they made it after all. This Pokemon would need some other way to recover, and for a bird, what would it do other than roost?
rest i guess... yeah, again i highly doubt pure flying type for reasons satted above
 
This Pokemon would need some other way to recover
Why? From a thematic point of view, no Pokemon needs recovery. Sure, lack of it might hurt it competitively, but that depends on stats - for a sweeper it doesn't matter so much. And anyway, even if a pure Flying type without Roost would probably be NU that doesn't preclude it existing.

Besides, Rest makes sense. Plenty of real birds sleep on the wing.
 
I doubt that there will ever be a pure flying type, but I never understood why some people want one so bad anyway. I think it would be cool if they made another ability like No Guard[I believe that it will stay Machamp exclusive]. This way, a few Pokemon would be able to use moves like Zap Cannon, Dragon Rush, and Focus Blast without having to worry about accuracy. I've always liked Zap Cannon[It looks and sounds cool], but it just ain't worth using.
 
A flying type that doesn't learn roost would be the stupidest thing in existence. I think it would be pretty cool if it could roost without losing it's flying type. That would be an interesting niche to fill.

They could always change it to the ??? type when it roost if they feel that it should be hit by ground moves for thematic reasons.
 
No Guard Dynamicpunch is bad enough, No Guard Zap Cannon would either be ridiculously good, or have to come off a dreadful stat.

A Flying type that doesn't learn Roost would be a Flying type that never lands would be a pure-Flying type. Like the albatross idea. It's perfectly sensible.
 
Considering the Eeveelution line is based on being mono-type, it seems like the perfect forerunner for the introducion of never before seen mono types like Flying, and Dragon. And technically, if a pure Flying type pokemon uses Roost, they become ??? type.

And ability which increases the accuracy of moves by 10%-20% would be very welcome, if they had the move pool to back it up. I think Starmie would get a kick out of it.
 
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