Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.

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Awesome. With the confirmation of the legendary secondary typings, I am getting White for sure. There's no way I'm passing up Dragon/Electric. Now, once I find out what the Starter's Evo's are, I can decide which one I'm gonna get and there's a third of my story team. I might have to take that fire gorilla though, that thing is totally bad ass. I actually like all of the concepts so far, and many of them are unique. An Electric horse, a fire gorilla (okay, this one maybe not, but it actually reminds me more of Mamoswine than Infernape), The gear thing is pretty cool as well, so is the chinchilla. The only one I don't really like is the pink ball, and that one's not even that bad.
 
Yeah, I have always wanted a shared pre-evolution for the PokeCows. I mean, how are Tauros (Tauroses or Taurii?) supposed to reproduce anyway? Don't tell me that Dittos are Female Tauros in disguise. However, I do agree that the distinction of the two being "counter-parts" is fan-made; still, it does kind of make sense. Those are my two cents, if you will.
 
Artemisian said:
If it comes to that, it kinda makes me wonder. If there ARE 3v3 battles, and they DO all share 1 HP bar, do you think they'd introduce it like they morph all the pokemon together, like add there HP and ATTK and DEF and SPDs to make one giant pokemon that gets to use 3 moves out of 12?

Although highly unlikely*, it would be interesting :o

*.00001%, if not less.
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Eh, probably less likely than that. The one HP bar mechanic comes from Pokemon Battrio. Unless you knew that already. :o

I wonder if Battrio will ever go outside Japan. It seems like a good spinoff that better captures the battling style of the anime, and would be a good addition to the franchise to kickoff GenV in outside countries. I guess Pokemon just isn't widely accepted enough to be seen in public arcades playing it. :/
 
That's what I'm thinking: Tauros is just fine by GameFreak standards, but not only did Dusclops and co. evolve anyway, they seem to be intent on writing a love letter to Generation I (how many non-legendary Generation I Pokemon haven't yet been given evolutions or baby forms? Like, three or four?).
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That's called fanservice. Something for the fans of the orignals to mak their favourite pokes stronger. Generaly a smart thing to do.
 
Also: bulls are just male cows, aren't they? I mean, it's real-world biology that makes people want to call Tauros and Miltank "counterparts". They're not like Scyther vs. Pinsir, sure, but if they both had evolutions, their BSTs could be equalized and thus set everything right.
 
JonTheRed said:
Also: bulls are just male cows, aren't they? I mean, it's real-world biology that makes people want to call Tauros and Miltank "counterparts". They're not like Scyther vs. Pinsir, sure, but if they both had evolutions, their BSTs could be equalized and thus set everything right.
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Oh dear, BSTs I completely forgot. They actually have equal base stats already, resting at 490 each. Perhaps this is another reason they are considered counterparts.

On a slightly unrelated topic, I would much rather have more evolutions that pre-evolutions. Pre-evolutions just seem a tad... forgettable. I never think of Pokemon like Elekid and Happiny, and they just do not seem very useful in most regards. They DO lower the amount of steps you have to take while hatching an egg, which is very useful when trying to get a certain nature or IVs, but otherwise they simply seem unneeded.
 
In Heart Gold/ Soul silver aren't Tauros and Miltank catchable only at the Miltank ranch as well? (is this true for the originals as well? I don't remember.)

It seems kinda obvious that Gamefreak wants us to think they are counterparts.
 
Really, I'd be happy if Tauros just got a better movepool. I don't really think an evolution is necessary, since he'd be quite a bit better with the addition of a few attacks. In particular, I think he'd be much better off with Superpower (if a metal bug gets it, why not Tauros?), ExtremeSpeed (well, he's pretty fast to begin with, so not a big leap in logic), or Megahorn (bulls has teh hornz). Any or all of those moves would redeem Tauros in my eyes. He's not reliving the RBY glory days any time soon, but I'm not shooting for the stars here. =)
 
Alakazamaster said:
Oh dear, BSTs I completely forgot. They actually have equal base stats already, resting at 490 each. Perhaps this is another reason they are considered counterparts.

On a slightly unrelated topic, I would much rather have more evolutions that pre-evolutions. Pre-evolutions just seem a tad... forgettable. I never think of Pokemon like Elekid and Happiny, and they just do not seem very useful in most regards. They DO lower the amount of steps you have to take while hatching an egg, which is very useful when trying to get a certain nature or IVs, but otherwise they simply seem unneeded.
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Pre-evos give pokemon new moves.

Granted these new moves are sometimes worthless, but w/e.
 
That's not true at all. Regice has 50 base Attack and there are plenty in between that and 130.
 
Rai said:
Superpower is a move that only pokemon with an attack stat of base 130 or higher can learn. Tauros is sitting at 100 if I remember correctly.
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where did you hear that? As of now there are 25 or so pokemon with an attack less than 130 that learn the move, and 7 with an base attack less than 100. (not counting deoxys forms and azumarill)
 
Vleeter said:
That's not true at all. Regice has 50 base Attack and there are plenty in between that and 130.
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I deleted that post two seconds after it was posted, damn you guys are quick. There was some sort of qualifier for the move though, I just can't remember what it was atm
 
Vleeter said:
That's not true at all. Regice has 50 base Attack and there are plenty in between that and 130.
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Pardon, but I am not quite sure as to what you are referring to.

EDIT: Never mind it was just explained.

Anyway, on the topic of new moves for Tauros, he really could make use of the ones listed by Aeres. Tauros lacks a Fighting-type move, which is pretty much necessary for most physical sweepers. Plus, a STAB priority move would be vicious on the Anger Management set. +6 Attack with Extremespeed? Sounds a lot like a beefed up version of Belly Drum Linoone. :P
 
The way I see it, the Pokemon that got Super Power from the move Tutor were Pokemon that already got it from level up or breeding and Pokemon that have 120+ Base Atk. There are some exception, though; for example, Salamence doesn't get it.
 
DDRMaster said:
The way I see it, the Pokemon that got Super Power from the move Tutor were Pokemon that already got it from level up or breeding and Pokemon that have 120+ Base Atk. There are some exception, though; for example, Salamence doesn't get it.
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Krabby and Kabutops beg to differ. :P Really though, I don't think that there is some specific criteria a Pokemon has to fulfill to get Superpower, it is just a matter of whether the Pokemon looks strong or not, so Gamefreak gave those Pokemon the ability to use Superpower.
 
I don't see what superpower would be doing for Tauros anyways so why does it matter? He already gets Earthquake for steels and rock types and the only ones that he doesnt hit with EQ are Skarmory and Bronzong, and Superpower doesn't hit them for supereffective damage anyways. (Stone edge already hits Skarmory for neutral too). In other words, it isn't really helpful to him. What he needs is a stat-up move, like swords dance. His evolution might get it, especially since its bipeadal.
 
Ugh, the only thing that bothers me about those rumors @ Pokebeach is the field effects. I hope they are not as broken as that, it's crazy lol.

But I DO hope they include that morality system thing, it sounds interesting. Having different routes to take depending on what kinda decisions you make! Sounds good, make the games LESS linear please.

I hope there is tons of postgame mini-plots and stuff to, like in HGSS. The one thing that was annoying about the older gens is that once you beat the E4, the game just dropped there was no point in playing. I like when there is still like, a whole new 'world' to do after.

So far, my team, will most likely be Water Starter + Fire Ape / Doll + Electric Zebra. :D :D maybe.
 
-FUCK- said:
I don't see what superpower would be doing for Tauros anyways so why does it matter? He already gets Earthquake for steels and rock types and the only ones that he doesnt hit with EQ are Skarmory and Bronzong, and Superpower doesn't hit them for supereffective damage anyways. (Stone edge already hits Skarmory for neutral too). In other words, it isn't really helpful to him. What he needs is a stat-up move, like swords dance. His evolution might get it, especially since its bipeadal.
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I think Bulk Up would be the most appropriate stat-up move it will get. It would be even more beastly if it got ExtremeSpeed due to priority and increased offense/bulk.
 
-FUCK- said:
I don't see what superpower would be doing for Tauros anyways so why does it matter? He already gets Earthquake for steels and rock types and the only ones that he doesnt hit with EQ are Skarmory and Bronzong, and Superpower doesn't hit them for supereffective damage anyways. (Stone edge already hits Skarmory for neutral too). In other words, it isn't really helpful to him. What he needs is a stat-up move, like swords dance. His evolution might get it, especially since its bipeadal.
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Stone Edge will never OHKO Skarmory, even with +6 Attack, but Superpower could. Tauros wouldn't mind the stat drop either, since +5 is still enough to destroy most of the OU tier. Tauros could definitely work with Swords Dance, but I must calmly correct that no evolution for Tauros has been announced, as only fake fanart was released as a Tauros evolution.
 
Alakazamaster said:
Stone Edge will never OHKO Skarmory, even with +6 Attack, but Superpower could. Tauros wouldn't mind the stat drop either, since +5 is still enough to destroy most of the OU tier. Tauros could definitely work with Swords Dance, but I must calmly correct that no evolution for Tauros has been announced, as only fake fanart was released as a Tauros evolution.
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How so? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Superpower and SE have the same base attack, and neither gets STAB from Tauros. If SE doesn't OHKO, then the only way Superpower can KO is after Skarmory uses Roost, which means that Tauros would have to be pretty damn slow for that to happen.
 
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