Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.

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It seems like it would be pure electric; the coloration for electric types tend to be a bit "dark" (Luxray, for instance, and even the legendary we all assumed would be dark or steel). I wonder if it's going to pull a Rampardos, except this time with insane speed (it is a horse!) and special attack but craptackular defenses.
 
It doesn't look that frail though...but then again Rampardos doesn't look frail either. I'm hoping it'll be special based, since good physical electric moves are very very few. Even if they add a few this gen, I prefer specially based Pokemon in general anyway.
 
Meguroko, Ground/Dark, a crocodile-like Pokemon, has an ability called Earthquake Spiral, which raises it's attack when it KOs another Pokemon. WTH!!! What kind of an ability is that, it can just hold a Choice Scarf, or since it's a Dark type, Pursuit a fleeing Psychic type and it gains a free boost. No, too overpowered, only Priority attacks can deal with it.

You can Swords Dance on anything fleeing and get two boosts. I fail to see how it will be overpowered at all. Works kind of like Jolteon and charge beam on a revenge kill. Better, but still similar...and we all know how broken Jolteon is.

all odd numbered generations had a caterpillar-->cocoon-->insect line and all odd numbered generations also had a weak fish-->sea serpent line
that are the patterns i see

Two points do not make a pattern lol.

In any case, if the whole 'several new field effects' were true it would certainly make 3vs3 battling much more viable...if only both rumors were true. It would make certain abilities, ie. Plus/minus and attacks, ie. Mun'na's telekinesis seem even remotely useful.

In fact, that's what I'm most interested in seeing - new abilities and mechanics of the battling system. It will have more impact on the metagame than any possible new pokemon could have...well that is, if they decide to change it.
 
Meguroko, Ground/Dark, a crocodile-like Pokemon, has an ability called Earthquake Spiral, which raises it's attack when it KOs another Pokemon. WTH!!! What kind of an ability is that, it can just hold a Choice Scarf, or since it's a Dark type, Pursuit a fleeing Psychic type and it gains a free boost. No, too overpowered, only Priority attacks can deal with it.

... Except with choice items you are forced to switch a lot, canceling old boosts. And how good would a +1 Pursuit on a non-switching pokemon even be? lol
 
Did anyone else notice the event Celebi standing beside the player in the corocoro photo? Does this mean pokemon still follow you?
 
Zorua is a japanese event Pokemon, ok and how the hell could we obtain it GAMEFREAK?? ¬¬

Also, he has a new attack called "Night Burst," which lowers the opponent's accuracy. Would the move be banned or we will just ban its accuracy drop?
 
Zorua is a japanese event Pokemon, ok and how the hell could we obtain it GAMEFREAK?? ¬¬

It's certainly not a huge problem. Even though the Zorua line appears event-only, TPCi has been handling events well enough to release the event 'mons in both the US and UK/PAL areas around similar times as their timings in Japan (Example: I'd speculate that the shiny Legendary Beasts and Celebi'll come out in a similar time as the 13th movie's advertising in the US and UK/PAL countries)
 
Also, he has a new attack called "Night Burst," which lowers the opponent's accuracy. Would the move be banned or we will just ban its accuracy drop?

Assuming the move does damage, how are we suppose to ban the accuracy drop without banning the move entirely?

Anyway, it's evasion boosting moves that are banned, not accuracy dropping moves.
 
Also, he has a new attack called "Night Burst," which lowers the opponent's accuracy. Would the move be banned or we will just ban its accuracy drop?
Mud Slap says hi. Not banned, just crap. Also, it might not be a 100% chance of the accuracy drop, it might be like Mirror Shot. Or it might not even do damage, making it like Flash and Sand Attack.

It's evasiveness boosting which is banned, since you can fix lowered accuracy by switching, but it's a lot harder to force an evasive enemy to switch out.
 
Why isn't there any talk about the Isshu region? Looks... interesting. With that desert right north of Hiun City and all...
 
Isshu looks like an interesting place. There aren't many big cities, as far as I see (however, Sinnoh was originally shown without any big cities, so that's a moot point.)

I like the juxtaposition of city and desert like that. Perhaps we could have an industrialization vs. nature theme.
 
About that freeze-only move that was being discussed a while back...
Sleep is nowhere near Freeze in terms of being broken. Sleep lasts 4 turns at most. Freeze has a 25% chance of thawing out each turn. That's a 75% chance of not attacking each turn, worse than Scarfrachi. Additionally, only a couple of Pokémon are immune to Freeze (Caterpie, Weedle, Venomoth, Wurmple, Dustox due to their Ability and only from Ice Beam) (Slugma, Magcargo and Camerupt also due to their Ability, but they'd still block this theoretical freeze only move). No, Ice types aren't immune to being frozen. Also, only 3 pretty exclusive moves can thaw the user out of being frozen, unlike the widespread Sleep Talk. Most teams can have a spot for a Sleep Talker without straying away from their central strategy too much.
In our current state, a freeze move would be too broken and end up being banned
 
its confirmed....

encourage, the ability of hihidaruma, boosts power of moves but disables the secondary effects.

that's actually kind of cool, b/c i doubt anyone uses fireblast because of the burn rate. If my attacks are going to be extra-powerful, I could care less if I burn the opponent (theres usually only a 30% chance anyway)
 
I'm thinking that he looks a bit on the physical side actually, so Fire Blast will probably be not so powerful. :/
Always have a bunch of other alternatives. The disabled secondary effects thing will turn this mon into a lot less technical asset and very predictable I think but with a good movepool it'll still have a lot of options.
 
w/e, its just an example. i would much rather have the exttra power (its probably going to be 1.25 to 1.5) than the 10% burn rate on flare blitz.

but yes, everything will be predictable. Everything will either be choice band or life orb sweeping sets, and it can probably be easily countered with a bulky water
 
It also means that if it turns out to be a defensive pokemon, it's essentially useless (no healing moves, no toxic, no spikes, etc.). Here's hoping GF decides to make it an offensive powerhouse.
 
Well I mean that thing looks almost pissed off so I'm thinking it'll be fairly offensive but once again with Gamefreak anything is possible. I'd put 85% bets that they'll work it out in the guy's favor.
 
Interesting effect that Encourage has. Perhaps it affects the opposing Pokemon, as well? If that's the case, Jirachi may very well have a hard counter in Hihidaruma if Thunder Wave can be circumvented somehow. It might also make the elemental fangs more viable (assuming Hihidaruma learns them), because they have 2 secondary effects in burn/freeze/paralysis and flinch.

Just some idle speculation.
 
This Encourage ability could be amazing. For example, the aforementioned Flare Blitz on this thing: Base 180 (with STAB), 100 accuracy move with no recoil? Sounds pretty nice. I just hope it's an offensive pokemon!
 
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