Ragnarök [OU HO]

gregoryd

Hello and welcome to my Overused Heavy Offense team, It is based on the Norse Mythology and Gods. Obviously, since my team is heavy offense, the point of my team is to kill the opponent before they can kill me, nothing else.
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Heimdall (Azelf) @ Colbur Berry Trait: Levitate
EVs: 8 HP / 140 Atk / 216 Spd / 144 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
- Explosion
The standard Colbur Berry Azelf lead. The reason why i chose it over the sashed lead, is it can cover much more leads then the other one if used correctly. Stealth rock and Taunt don't need explaining, with U-turn to escape if explosion isn't favorable, and explosion to go out in a blaze of glory, hopefully taking the opponent with me.



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Loki (Infernape) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 192 Spd / 64 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Close Combat
- U-turn
- Stone Edge
- Overheat
Originally a T-tar, (which i switched for its unfavorable sandstorm) Loki is one of my many sweepers and scouters, he normally gets alot of time early game, as he can take down alot of the leads troubling azelf. Nothing really special about the moveset as its standard mix-ape.

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Frey (Suicune) @ Leftovers Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 104 Spd / 152 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
Yes, Crocune on a HO team, and no, I am not on drugs. Even though hes more of a tank, after a calm mind or two, he is deadly, and the fact he can last long is even more helpful. I have to use him early game or late game, because the momentem will be broken, which is bad for a Heavy offense team.




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Weavile (M) @ Choice Band Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Ice Shard
- Pursuit
- Low Kick
- Ice Punch
Scizor was mostly dead weight on my team, so I decided to switch him with Weavile, and i hope he is better. As you probably have guessed, this is my revenge killer, Ice shard is for the priority and helps get rid of unbulky dragons and weakened sweepers, Pursuit is good for ghosts and predicting switch-outs, while Low kick hopefully may help against my swampert problem. Since this is a revenge killer, I don't really like his SR weakness.

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Odin (Salamence) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Outrage
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Roost
My main mid-game sweeper, you bring him in, DD on the switch, and if its a steel type, or a type weak to ground, you kill them with earthquake, otherwise rain hell on them with Outrage. The reason why i used Outrage over Dragon claw, is that Outrage will almost always kill anything that doesn't resist it, while dragon claw misses some KO's.



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Hel (Gengar) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Fire]
Almost every team I have ever had has had this Gengar set, even though this is the first one where he is a sweeper, instead of a revenge killer. With HP fire instead of substitute is that it does wonders on any scizor hoping to pursuit me.


I'm having alot of trouble killing swampert on this team, and priority can rip holes into this team.
 
Quick question... Why rash on Raikou? Timid is needed to at least speed tie with other base 115's. Since you are walled by many things very easily, I would actually suggest a specs set with thunderbolt/shadow ball/aura sphere/Hidden Power Grass. With this set, you get great coverage and are not walled by common threats such as swampert. I like your team otherwise, however I feel that azelf as a lead, should really only utilize focus sash or choice scarf, otherwise it loses to many common leads. I hope I helped and good luck! :)
 
You MUST have rash nature on Raikou to be able to use aura sphere, since it only appears on an event raikou, and those are rash nature. I may try that set on raikou, as it has perfect coverage, and I don't need calm mind, only problem is since I'm HO i don't like very many choice items. The azelf lead is actually very useful if you use it correctly.
 
IMO you need to ditch/change CB scizor. that thing is yelling for an opponent to set up and you cant have that with no defensive pokes or good revenge killers. I can bring out Gyara on scizor after you BP something, DD once and sweep your entire team.
 
For my previously mentioned set, you may want to try a scarf set as well seeing as rash doesn't give it the speed boost timid does.
 
Excuse me if I'm wrong, but you mean put a crocune type set on raikou, wouldn't that be worse? and would Weavile be a better revenge killer, I was thinking earlier about switching it.
 
gregoryd said:
You MUST have rash nature on Raikou to be able to use aura sphere, since it only appears on an event raikou, and those are rash nature. I may try that set on raikou, as it has perfect coverage, and I don't need calm mind, only problem is since I'm HO i don't like very many choice items. The azelf lead is actually very useful if you use it correctly.
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It's walled by Celebi, Gliscor, Rotom, Roserade, and I think 2 or 3 other common poke's I'm forgetting. It really isn't worth it because you now lose the ability to beat 115's, 110's, and infernape. If timid were available, it could be very effective with the right support, but it's not possible, so it's not exactly usuable in OU without hindering yourself.
 
There's no point in using Aura Sphere with Raikou. The main things it hits are Tyranitar, Heatran, and Magnezone going just by coverage.

Let's take a look at that. Tyranitar is beaten handily by Choice Band Scizor, and +1 Raikou always 2HKOs Heatran without being OHKOd in return; If they Fire Blast or Earth Power you and are faster, they are obviously Choiced, and you can go setup with Salamence. Magnezone always loses anyway, allowing Raikou to get to +6, unless it ScarfSplodes on you, which still isn't favorable for the Magnezone.

I recommend you to use Thunderbolt l Calm Mind l Substitute l Shadow Ball on Raikou. With Timid you can beat Infernape and Gengar.
 
I think he meant you could use shadow ball over substitute for perfect type coverage and probs use a life orb for the HO style of the team.

But he said that suicune would be better because rash raikou kinda sucks. So he suggested an offensive suicune for your team.

That was my interpretation and that is probably a good idea.

EDIT: Pointless post because he explained himself lol.
 
Weavile isn't adding much to the team due to his bad SR weakness and over-all bad typing (sadly) perhaps a Scarf pokemon to replace it as a Revenge killer. Perhaps Flygon?

Have you tested out Breloom in Infernape's Place? With Breloom in Infernapes place, you could switch Weavile out for a Scarftran as your revenge killer. Breloom handles Swampert with ease and is such a bastard of a pokemon due to sporepunching. Scarftran would then be your Fire Absorber instead of Suicune, thus saving him for last instead of breaking your momentum in the middle of a fight. Then you could unleash some true hellfire. Breloom would also be your status absorber with Poison Orb already activated.

Scizor's bullet punch is also resisted by Scarftran, and revenge killed by him. Explosion on Scarftran could also turn the tides of the battle by getting rid of a check to Salamence.

So, yes, I defenantly suggest a Heatran for this team. Specifically Scarftran.
 
Damn, why didn't i think about that. It fixes literally all the problems I have with my team, I'ma go try that right now.
Edit: On second thought, I will keep breloom and heatran for a bit at least.
 
Hey I got your message. Honestly that Gengar set just isn't good anymore. I'd try running SubSplit, it's really a lot better- HP Fire and Thudnerbolt are both very situational and basically only good for three Pokemon, total (Forretress, Gyarados and Scizor), all of which Gengar could beat with subsplit anyway.

I can believe that Swampert is a threat for sure! He walls almost everyone. I'd highly recommend the Heatran + breloom switch posted above. Otherwise you could run HP Grass Heatran, but scarf tar+ breloom should work fine.

This team is terrifyingly weak to Gyarados. After a DD, nothing stops him. The fix for this is fortunately quite simple, try OffensiveCune with Leftovers. He acts as a solid counter to both Salamence and Gyarados. Crocune isn't really for offensive teams anyway.

SD Lucario also has fun against this team. If you'll look at my sig, you'll see I usually have a very easy fix for being weak to Gyarados and Lucario, but I don't think Rotom really fits onto this team, and I wanted to change Crocune anyway. Weavile is mediocre, instead try Scarf Scizor. His element of surprise means he can usually get a KO with Superpower, and in my opinion is much better than band version.

That's all I got, hope I helped.
 
This team is NOT being played as a heavy offense team should be. Yes, heavy offense involves killing the opposition before you get killed, but part of this idea is that you don't give your opponents a chance to set up by already being setup. This means that revenge killing is usually not a necessity - therefore, you don't need weavile at all. In fact, the choice band is much worse - it gives opponents a chance to set up. In general, you don't want choice items on HO teams, as switching ruins your momentum.

Replace Weavile with another setup sweeper - it'll help you maintain momentum. If you want to keep weavile, at least use the SD set, as it lets you take advantage of switch outs and sweep, while still maintaining revenging capabilities.
 
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