Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.

[Lucalibur]

Remember, YOU are also just a 'normal' guy. That's why I want to see the rival get the other box legend. I'm tired of the rival just being a complete pushover, who says he hasn't been training/catching Pokemon as hard as you? At the very least, Gamefreak should give us a difficulty setting.

and that is why i think he should get 1(or even 2) pseudo-legendary pokemons for his end game team, a legendary pokemon make NO sense on a normal trainer, they are one of a freaking kind fo god sake. in the end while gamefreak give us the chance to capture the real dialogue happen when we beat(or run if you like that) the legendary pokemon.

a difficulty setting is all i could ask. i loved FRLG but the game was so easy it was not even funny, then i started playing omega fire red(a hack) and got a little more satisfied because the game while still easy for me was way harder then before.

 

[Tortferngatr]

Yeah, and people think he is such an angel. At least Paul dumps his Pokemon because they are weak.

And he fails to dump Pikachu, even when it sucks WITH a Light Ball equipped...

 

[TheMaskedNitpicker]

Huh? Doesn't that just cancel the animation of the moves?

No, that's a different setting. You know how in in-game battles, whenever you knock out an opponent's Pokémon, it tells you what they'll bring out next and allows you a free switch? The setting I mentioned turns that off.

 

[Saif]

No, that's a different setting. You know how in in-game battles, whenever you knock out an opponent's Pokémon, it tells you what they'll bring out next and allows you a free switch? The setting I mentioned turns that off.

Oh!I see...but still lol , other than the battle frontier some people do in-game runs with EV'd pokemon , since the cpu doesn't have EV'd ones...wether we know what they switch into or not wouldn't matter all too much

 

[Chaoswalker]

I just hope that Brocohead gets a awsome Plant bear/cat evelution,and that it wont be another bibarel.

Normal/Grass Koala FTW.

 

[Nightscar]

some people do in-game runs with EV'd pokemon

And then complain about how the game is too easy @_@

On topic: I'm having trouble seeing the little brown guy as a onono preevo, the colors just seem off and further dash our hopes of a bug type psuedo legend. (Onono looks like a mantis because we all deep down want a bug type psuedo)

I've been thinking, the new art style seems to lend itself to psuedos actually, maybe we'll wind up with 2 or 3 or maybe even 4 this gen, hopefully no generic dragon typings, I like the stranger typed psuedos like tyranitar and metagross myself.

 

[Tortferngatr]

remind me of a fanboy i saw the other day saying how ash is gonna win the sinnoh leauge and that he is the best, a pokemon master and i dont know wtf else.

no need to say i shut him up with competitive talk and how all of paul pokemons counter ash team in a way or another. paul actually resemble us, the competitive players that dumb the weak and keep the strong.

you know i hope gamefreak add a strong rival this time with a decent team, i would LOVE if the rival final team had a pseudo-legendary for example and not just a fucking sneasel or staraptor, i mean something that actually force us to TRY instead of sweeping his entire team with 1 single pokemon, i just want something a little harder then those fucking NFEs everywhere.

Paul sent Chimchar out against Cynthia's Garchomp. Don't even try comparing him to Smogon.

And he released it despite the potential to evolve it into Infernape if he had any sort of brains whatsoever. Ash may be clueless, but the developers threw him a bone by letting him get two fully evolved starters for Diamond/Pearl.

He dumps them both with Professor Oak, along with a Gabite who could have provided an EPIC final battle against Cynthia with Gabite becoming Garchomp and then PWNing Cynthia's Garchomp, and uses Cyndaquil. Cyndaquil. The Pokemon anime will NEVER have brains (except Cynthia, but her team is Game Freak's creation, not the creation of the guys who do the anime.) Not even the 6-year-olds who WATCH the anime would be dumb enough to get rid of their fully-evolved starter, heck even getting rid of their entire team except Pikachu, for that matter.

But yeah, I want a difficulty setting, and more difficult rival battle Pokemon. The ability to have a hard mode would be good, especially if it turns out I can just use multiple computers to store extra saves so I can have a nice easy mode I can apply my favorite Gen V Pokemon to, and a hard mode to suit my challenge streak.

EDIT: Waitaminute...its those Revives that make the game easy...crud.

 

[Lucalibur]

IMO fuck the evs and ivs, i just go for a decent nature(hasty elekid on omega fire red for example) and kick ass, people that make in-game runs while they worry about evs are just wasting time and taking away every little bit of fun the game got. i am a competitive player so i cant stand shit nature pokemons but i am more then fine with a decent nature(for example i got no problems with a hasty zam if only for in-game porpuses).

 

[Saif]

And then complain about how the game is too easy @_@

Lol anyway , I wouldn't waste my time in-game all too much , Finish it in 1-3days and get into competitive already!

 

[Saital]

Anyway, if that thing is the pseudo-legend, Ash would be the first one to get it. He gets everything. He needs to pull out all the guys he dumped at Oak's Lab. I'm pretty sure they're bored.

lol Ash already has a pseudo-legend pre-evo, with his Gible. But yeah really, he needs to take him along to Isshu; it'd be such a waste if he didn't. Will he be Gen 5's Aipom-stowaway?

 

[TsengHyena]

Will he be Gen 5's Aipom-stowaway?

I bet on it.

 

[lacerta]

Personally, I'm still on the boat that it will turn out to be Ononokusu's first form

The one on the left looks a bit related to the 'mantis' pokemon I think. The colours are similar. Basic form perhaps?

Now I kinda do see a resemblance to the little brown -mon. Hmm... :/

the brown thing is the same as the one in the Beta artwork, without a doubt. I think it's the first stage of Ononokusu, based on the colour and the tusks.

Um...Ononokusu is the "Mantis", as Serebii put it. A giant reptilian Pokemon in a tasteful shade of Chernobyl green. That new pokemon looks slightly mammalian, hence the comparisons to Kangaskhan, and its drab brown colour scheme. Also, ignoring the fan art posted slightly earlier, the game sprite of Ononokusu doesn't have the prominent horn of its 'prevo' - it doesn't seem to have much of a head even, aside from the bloodied blades.

I don't really understand the comparison...is everybody else seeing...something I'm not?

 

[General Tso]

Hard mode? Are we all forgetting Nuzlocke already?

You can say that's not "hard" but the more restrictions you put on yourself, the harder it is. A "hard mode" is just a way for the game to force a more difficult experience instead of you doing it yourself.

Furthermore, Paul is probably the most like us in the anime. Actually uses type advantages against Gym Leaders (see Maylene) and even uses abilities (Ursaring's Guts)

But, he'll still lose to Ash and his "counter shield" or whatever other BS the anime wants to roll out.

 

[TsengHyena]

The new one is nothing related to Kangaskhan.

 

[Lucalibur]

Hard mode? Are we all forgetting Nuzlocke already?

You can say that's not "hard" but the more restrictions you put on yourself, the harder it is. A "hard mode" is just a way for the game to force a more difficult experience instead of you doing it yourself.

Furthermore, Paul is probably the most like us in the anime. Actually uses type advantages against Gym Leaders (see Maylene) and even uses abilities (Ursaring's Guts)

But, he'll still lose to Ash and his "counter shield" or whatever other BS the anime wants to roll out.

if we put restrictions on ourselfs then we dont need games to have difficult settings anymore, we decide how much stuff we can use and end of story. now that would not be nice right? i want to able to use all the game has to offer but feel that its still not enough.

btw paul beat ash and his counter shield or whatever strategy by 4-0 and i still think he will beat ash on sinnoh league(he is fighting barry on day 15 but i am sure he will win).

 

[FlareBlitz]

Sure deciding to play the game blindfolded would also increase difficulty but that's a bit retarded. Honestly it would be very easy for GF to make a hard mode, just increase the average levels of every trainer Pokemon by 5 and make sure they all have max EVs, disable the ability to get free switches, and evolve certain NFE trainer pokemon later in the game (i.e. all gym leaders use only fully evolved pokemon). That'll be enough of a challenge even to smogonites.

 

[TsengHyena]

a difficulty setting is better because we can put Nuzlocke restrictions on ourselves AND have all trainers pokes at higher levels for even more difficulty.

Thats better imo.

 

[General Tso]

I would hope Ash gets to at least the top 2, considering Pokemon may not end for a while, he'll only be the champion when the franchise ends I would think.

Unless they want to use a new hero?

 

[TsengHyena]

If he looses again he'll just be a phail trainer. I mean, he won the Orange League already (even though it was crap basically). About time he won another.

 

[Lucalibur]

at least for the moment i doubt. ash continue to be the main hero for gen 5 so unless they want to end the anime on gen 5 he will continue to lose and lose and lose and lose and lose until the end, he can reach top 2, top 4 or whatever but until the end he wont be the champ of anything.

i want the jerk rival back in BW....he gave the feeling a rival would give, may/brendan were just pathetic, barry was even cool since he actually wanted to kick your ass but he had no evil on his heart.

 

[Naxte]

lol Ash already has a pseudo-legend pre-evo, with his Gible. But yeah really, he needs to take him along to Isshu; it'd be such a waste if he didn't. Will he be Gen 5's Aipom-stowaway?

Eh, probably not. Aipom had reason to be brought over to Sinnoh: it was caught practically right at the end of the AG-era, and had a new evolution of Ambipom in the Sinnoh-dex. Gible though wasn't caught nearly as close to the end of its saga, and it already has a complete evolution chain. The only thing it really needs to do is master Draco Meteor, but that should happen by the fight against Paul, so I can't see it being brought over to Isshu.

Edit: And Ash will end up beating Paul. The whole DP series has been building up to that, so I can't see him losing to Shinji again at this point. Ash'll probably lose to the Darkrai-trainer after he beats Paul, but I can't see him actually losing against Paul again.

Um...Ononokusu is the "Mantis", as Serebii put it. A giant reptilian Pokemon in a tasteful shade of Chernobyl green. That new pokemon looks slightly mammalian, hence the comparisons to Kangaskhan, and its drab brown colour scheme. Also, ignoring the fan art posted slightly earlier, the game sprite of Ononokusu doesn't have the prominent horn of it's 'prevo' - it doesn't seem to have much of a head even, aside from the bloodied blades.

I don't really understand the comparison...Is everybody else seeing...something I'm not?

Ugh... Please stop referring to it as a mantis, even in parenthesis, as that's quite clearly not what it is. Serebii only called it that because that's what it kind of looked like in the first super low-quality screenshots of it. As you said, it's reptilian, so just call it a giant reptile , or whatever.

Anyway, looking at it, I suppose you may be right. I jumped on that idea when I saw the anime-sketch of it, where it clearly has tusks. It's hardly a far-fetched idea that those tusks could develop into Ononokusu's head-blade things. Plus, it also resembled Larvitar a bit in that sketch, so it being a Larvitar-->Tyranitar Pseudo-legendary thing wouldn't have been too unlikely either (and since Ash himself just got a Gible this season in the anime, it would hardly be unlikely for this Iris person to wind up with one in BW, especially if it doesn't evolve for a while).

Those two points put together is why I thought that might be the case. But yeah, taking a closer look, I feel you may be right, and I'm not really that sure anymore what it is (aside from being very confident that it isn't a Kangaskhan pre-evo--it doesn't have the Kanga family's ears, and has a horn and that tusk-thing, which all point away from a relationship).

 

[Tortferngatr]

I bet on it.

I'm pretty sure he evolves to Gabite somewhere in the Japanese episodes.

No longer cute=no longer capable of marketing to girls who wouldn't care anyway=no stowaway-ing.

Even though we ALL want Ash to finally be sensible and use the only plot-legal Uber mon (well, besides Wobbu,) in the game...

And while I'm guilty of a similar crime while playing one of the few non-Serebii Pokemon text-based RPGs (Lileep/Cradily combining Ingrain and Constrict/Wring Out as a makeshift Grass-typed absorption move,) I DO admit Counter Shield is Ash just being gimmicky. At least Scott Stone (name of character who HAS that) can only pull it off with Lileep, and at least it makes a small amount of sense on it (Lileep's base fossil is the root fossil.) Counter Shield is just weird.

At least the guys who made the anime got it right for once and make Ash lose soundly to Paul a few times...

Anyways, I LOVE how we can get so off topic as to be discussing why Ash sucks. Ash, to be honest, pretty much just sucks. There are too many reasons to count, and yet he's pretty much the only legitimate target of the circular reasoning, "he sucks because he just plain sucks."

So, anyway, who in here thinks Ash could be even remotely redeemed by using Mijumaru and evolving him quickly?

 

[Naxte]

I'm pretty sure he evolves to Gabite somewhere in the Japanese episodes.

No. It's still Gible as of the latest episode, and from spoilers we know that it's still a Gible when Ash uses it in his upcoming match against Conway (2 episodes from now). One of Dawn's rivals, Ursula, had a Gabite, but Ash himself still only has a Gible.

 

[SBM]

sorry if this is old news, but play asia is now doing preorders for black and white

 

[Seriin]

he wont be the champ of anything.

Except side stories. Battle Frontier I found to be really good because he didn't just automatically lose to everyone and everything. The few matches he did lose were due to bad strategy, and it showed him learning from those mistakes and fixing them in later matches. He also brought back past pokemon and just-for-the-fans members (last match was squirtle, bulbasaur and charizard), things he just doesn't do in the main series until the finale. (and even then its a bit rare..)


And then he starts DP and loses matches on stupidity and never seems to learn a damn thing. I mean, he lost to Magikarp in that one episode...