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Using a white cartridge, MAC address CA544C, I did the following while saved inside the house but about to step outside:

1) Set my game time to 2011-02-07 20:30
2) Started my run.
3) Soft reset after 43 seconds.
4) Said yes to the CGear 28 seconds after entering the game inside the house.
5) Stepped out of the house and pressed A quickly at each opportunity until the scene ended.
6) Caught the roamer and IV'd it.
7) Nature: Jolly, IVs: 11/3/16/21/17/6

I ran this through RNG Reporter 8.40 capture tab with a max frame of 20 and delay ranging from 1600 all the way to 7000 and did not get a hit.

It is very time consuming to search with both a large Max Frame and a large delay interval. If I knew the approximate range of each based on my timing I could conduct a narrower search.

Any help would be appreciated.

Wrong help thread. There is a separate help thread for 5th gen stuff. It's also stickied.

Also it doesn't look like you tested my advice in the research thread.
 
Okay, so I worked on it a bit longer. I'm trying to get a flawless ditto of any nature on route 47 (where it has the highest encounter rate). Using pokeRNG, and selecting slots 2-5 (the slots for ditto), I got these two seeds: F90B0827 and 790B0827.

From here, what do I have to do to make sure I run into a ditto when I use sweet scent, and how do I figure out which frame to use it on? I'm a little confused as to how much I add or subtract from my target frame.

By the way, 'rarity' doesn't matter if you're using encounter slots. For Ditto, use slots 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, and 11; if the spread needs slot 9, go to another area where you can find Ditto (e.g. Cerulean Cave).

Find the frame for the correct encounter slot first. Wild Pokémon in grass are on frame 2, and you start on frame 1. This means you'll need to do a number of advances equal to the Method K frame - 2, then Sweet Scent to advance it by 1 extra frame and hit the spread. If your frame is, say, 57, you'll need to advance 55 times before Sweet Scenting.

Sweet Scent (in fact, any encounter in tall grass) is always frame 2. While surfing, it's frame 3 (the game has to generate a level for the wild Pokémon, as Pokémon found when surfing don't have a fixed level), and fishing and Rock Smash are frame 4 (one RNG call for determining whether you actually find a Pokémon, one for the level, and one for the encounter slot).
 
It just happens sometimes, either you keep trying or you pick a completely different delay. Although, this looks like a button mashing delay so you may want to pick something significantly higher so you can have more control (it's what works for me, my calibrated is 494-ish and I always pick 600 + delays).

Yeah but the problem is I can't download pikatimer on this laptop cause it's rubbish. I finally hit the seed. I discarded 2 eggs and saved. then took the 3rd egg (3rd frame) and hatched it. It was shiny. I then moved onto the IV's. Straight away it was skipping frames. I have no roamers in Kanto or Johto. Whats happening? NPC's?
 
Yeah but the problem is I can't download pikatimer on this laptop cause it's rubbish. I finally hit the seed. I discarded 2 eggs and saved. then took the 3rd egg (3rd frame) and hatched it. It was shiny. I then moved onto the IV's. Straight away it was skipping frames. I have no roamers in Kanto or Johto. Whats happening? NPC's?

Yeah, there's 1 roaming NPC in goldenrod, which basically guarantees you will start on frame 3.
 
So should I just cycle by the daycare till the daycare man calls me? Or will that advance one of my frames?

No, you don't want the Daycare man to call you while you are trying to do Egg IVs. After you save in front of the daycare man holding your shiny egg, hit your desired seed for IVs. As soon as you enter the game work open the Pokegear.

There is one wandering NPC on the route, which is why you won't always be starting at the first frame. When you do your Elm calls to check your seed / advance to your target frame for your IVs, just keep in mind the NPC may have caused the first few frames to have been skipped. This may or may not be the case depending on what the NPC was doing when you saved the game and how fast you opened the Pokegear.

Once you have your seed confirmed, keep calling Elm or Joey until you are 1 before your target frame. At that point you exit the Pokegear and talk to the daycare man as fast as possible. It's OK if the NPC advances your frame before you verify your seed and do your advances, but if the NPC gets you here, you would miss your target frame and have the wrong IVs.

Keeping these things in mind, you probably want a target frame for the IVs of ~8-15. For the shinyness the first frame is preferable, of course.
 
Quick question. I'm breeding for a shiny and I just hit my seed (confirmed by Elm calls). But it's Frame 3. The daycare man is currently holding the first egg. What do I do from here?
 
Quick question. I'm breeding for a shiny and I just hit my seed (confirmed by Elm calls). But it's Frame 3. The daycare man is currently holding the first egg. What do I do from here?

Advance the frame by 2, then generate the egg. You can do this either by using the radio or calling joey once on a non-monday.
 
Quick question. I'm breeding for a shiny and I just hit my seed (confirmed by Elm calls). But it's Frame 3. The daycare man is currently holding the first egg. What do I do from here?

Reject the first egg and the next egg, since you already got the daycare man to hold the first egg, you can't call Youngster Joey anymore to advance your frame, because it would make the next egg Frame 4.
 
Reject the first egg and the next egg, since you already got the daycare man to hold the first egg, you can't call Youngster Joey anymore to advance your frame.

Ok thanks.. I'll try that.

Edit: Did this and didn't get a shiny. Must have done something wrong.
 
I want to RNG my Jirachi from the Pokemart in HGSS. How do I do this, as i seem to have no control over the delay when using the guide?
 
OK, just hit my seed again and put the parents in the daycare. Now do I just call Joey and pick up the first egg?

The cleanest way to RNG for a shiny egg is to place parents in daycare first, save outside the daycare. Hit seed, advance frame by way of joey calls / radio advancement, stop 1 frame before target, run around and generate egg. Voila, it's shiny.
 
You can call Joey/advance frames before or after putting the parents in Daycare, but just do it before the egg is generated.

EDIT: Oh and by the way, do you have any roamers out?
 
You can call Joey/advance frames before or after putting the parents in Daycare, but just do it before the egg is generated.

EDIT: Oh and by the way, do you have any roamers out?

No, I don't.

OK just hit my seed again. So just to confirm do I now put the parents in the daycare, call Joey, and pick up the first egg?
 
When using Sweet Scent to advance the frame, your final frame will be the Method 1 frame of the Pokemon you catch (listed as "Actual" in RNG Reporter) + 6. Sweet Scent advances by 1 whenever you're on a bike, but having a Pokemon follow you seems to make this advance inconsistent.

What if I'm using method K? It says sweet scent advances the frame by one on the bike, so if the pokemon's frame is 1, and the frame I need to hit is 37, I use sweet scent on frame 35?
 
What if I'm using method K? It says sweet scent advances the frame by one on the bike, so if the pokemon's frame is 1, and the frame I need to hit is 37, I use sweet scent on frame 35?

Okay. The first time I hit the seed, I used sweet scent on frame 35 and got the ditto. However, it had all the stats from frame 36. The second time, I used sweet scent on frame 36 and got a farfetch'd instead, but it had all the stats I wanted. How do I fix this? I have the right encounter slots checked in PokeRNG (slots 2-5), yet all the seeds it gives me for those slots don't actually give those slots in RNG reporter. And none of them that I find have a slot of 2-5.
 
Mastodon: I take it you're abusing in HG/SS

1) Check that your target frame has an encounter slot that will allow you to face a Ditto. If you get the stats and nature you want but it's a different pokemon, then that means that the encounter slot is not that of a Ditto. Pick a different frame with your desired spread or try a different seed.

2) Make sure you have a synchronizer. It's not completely necessary but it without a doubt helps :)
 
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