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The 2010-11 Football/Soccer Thread

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amazed there was no penalty for that tackle on ramires, especially considering how eager to stop the game the referee had been up to that point..

van der sar and torres yellows both undeserved too :/
 
phalanx said:
another penatly united got away with?
we have got away with crap all, thats the first for a while , no martin atkinson, no win:P
what was van der sar booked for?
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look, i'm going to say this very nicely - fuck off? there is absolutely nothing wrong with supporting a team, or loving a team, or being a fan of a team, but the one-sided blinkered pathetic dogmatic OH MY GOD UTD ARE SO AMAZING THAT EVERYTHING GOOD THEY DO IS AMAZING BUT EVERYTHING BAD THEY DO IS SOMEONE ELSES FAULT AND THEY NEVER GET REF DECISIONS FOR THEM EVEN WHEN THEY DO BUT WHEN THEY GET DECISIONS AGAINST THEM IT'S A TRAVESTY I WILL HOLD ONTO FOR MONTHS IF A UNITED PLAYER DOES SOMETHING BAD IT'S OKAY BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE PROBABLY DID SOMETHING BAD TOO BUT IF SOMEONE ELSE DOES SOMETHING BAD I'LL GO ON ABOUT IT FOR AGES

just, stop it, please? you are honestly singlehandedly responsible for making me absolutely loathe and detest united. hypocrisy is not an attractive quality in a human being.
thank you.
 
seriously?

id rather read his bullshit than all the stuff you post about, pretty much ranting about every fucking single thing regarding any big soccer team. have you ever fucking posted anything "positive" in this god damn thread? i only see you rant rant rant about retarded shit and how much you hate every team and how youd rather have x team beat y team because you hate them but you hate them both anyways and how you want an interesting player to die just because you cant stand his face and blababaalabalabla. Do you even support a fucking team?

seriously dude every single post of yours in this thread makes me cringe


that being said barca just steamrolled the fuck off of shakhtar, 5-1 no biggie. what a surprise!!!
 
so I don't support any of the teams in the prem - big deal. I've got objections to ways that most of them are run - I don't like (does anyone?) clubs who seem to be trying to buy titles - Chelsea (David Luiz is cool though) and City. I would like Arsenal, I think, if it wasn't for Arsene, though I appreciate the way they're run rather sensibly it seems; and I've already said why I've been put off United. I sort of like Tottenham, for some reason; I don't like Gareth Bale because I think the way he shirked international duty was, well, not a nice thing to do.
Moving quickly down the prem; large soft spot for Liverpool (including Hodgson, who seems like a nice chap), Everton I could not give a rat's arse about, similarly Bolton, Sunderland, Blackburn, Aston Villa; quite like Newcastle, feel rather sorry for them sometimes, see also Fulham with the ridiculous statue; would like Wigan if it wasn't for Martinez (more on that later), like Wolves, like Blackpool, like Ian Holloway, like WBA even if I am still slightly bitter about a penalty decision from last season; a short and non-emphatic fuck you to Stoke and Birmingham. If there's anyone I've left out file it under 'don't care'.


Can you actually think of why I'd have much positive to say about people like Rooney? The man is an arse of the lowest calibre.
Oh, and as I looked at my posts in the page above - the negativity towards Real Madrid is based purely on the fact that they were pretty much Franco's bitches. Yeah. Not mad on teams that are like 'woo fascism!' Similarly also teams that employ Marlon King (Coventry!)

As for my team, it's Swansea. :3
(I'm well aware the above is tldr but you asked, I'm bored)
 
Anyone complaining about the penalty or lack thereof can go fuck their ass. We were the better team today and deserved our win. It was a clear foul but the real contact was on the edge of the box and a borderline free kick/penalty. Even better if it was a penalty because Chelsea in our last three games against them have won them solely because of shitty refereeing decisions. Fuck them, this is small karma.
 
you obviously haven't read that many of her posts then if you don't know she supports Swansea.

pretty much ranting about every fucking single thing regarding any big soccer team
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I assumed it was a worldwide thing but maybe it's just British? Put simply, we hate the successful teams (read: the link I posted on the last page) And like I found out last season, the hate only grows more when you're outside the Premiership...Maybe it's envy? Maybe we're pissed that they've been curbstomping us for decades? Maybe it's just because it's so darn fun? But you'll struggle to find many people in England who have nice things to say about Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool. Arsenal get away with it because they're so darn entertaining but I still think Wenger's a bit of a whinge. It's all in good fun...mostly. For me, akuchi represents the average fan of British football, albeit slightly angrier. ^_~ And it's such a breath of fresh air to have another regular here who doesn't support one of the 'big teams.'

I was actually gonna ask her about the Bale thing though...I don't get that one. He's an exciting player and a great professional (although coming out and saying he'd play abroad the other day was a bit of a dick move). What do you have against him? Is it a Welsh thing?

(agree on the phalanx thing but leave him to it...I love coming here after any bad Man Utd result and sniggering at his attempts at justifying it...didn't you know? Man Utd CANNOT be beaten unless the other team cheats. I'm tempted to go back through this thread and make a 'compilation of phalanx excuses' ... the only reason i haven't is because i think it would be a seriously huge task)

oh, and obvious penalty blah blah, same old man u, always cheating
 
it kind of is a Welsh thing (I know i'm not from Wales) but with the England-Wales game my Welsh ex who got me into football told me he wouldn't play and he'd be 'fit again' in time for the CL - basically that he was crying off with a fake injury so he didn't risk sustaining a real one/fitness. I thought this was a terribly dim and cynical view of the nature of a sports professional who had been chosen for the honour of representing his country - then it happened.

You know, I think I hate the biggest teams most because they have the most media exposure, maybe. And because, well, they seem to be on another planet a lot of the time.
 
cookie said:
excuse my ignorance, but what exactly do people have against rooney?
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For me, I will admit there is definitely an element of snobbery. He is classless. He's being paid what, 250k a week? In the last few weeks he's managed to elbow someone in the face (deliberately and off the ball) and swear directly into the camera. He's cheated on his wife god knows how many times, including when she was pregnant; I really, really went off him with the whole (admittedly quite funny to a neutral) City-United-will-he-won't-he thing, personally, that was probably it. That or slagging off the England supporters that had paid through the nose to see him fuck up miserably (along with everyone else) at the World Cup.
Lots of things!
 
excuses? if we play crap and lose then fair enough.
and how were man utd cheating when torres was finding the grass on multiple occasions in the box? o and looking at stills of the "penalty" the initial contact was outside the area, if that is any consolation
and all booing rooney does is make him score anyway so... keep it up :P
 
score more goals so he can disrespect all his teamates, the club, their fans and his manager and accuse the most successful english team of having no ambition and basically being shit, then he can use that as an excuse to pretend to get a transfer and threaten to quit, just so he can get a pay rise when he already makes upwards of 200,000 a week.

United fans quickly forgot that one didn't they.

Rooney is a piece of shit.
 
phalanx said:
and all booing rooney does is make him score anyway so... keep it up :P
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I suspect the England fans that forked over several grand to watch him die on his arse at the World Cup would disagree.. not, of course, that the nasty little man had any humility at all..
 
So it's official - the ban is being upheld. No surprises there then.

And it's funny...I didn't hear any of you disagreeing when Drogba got a 5 match ban a few years back for essentially the same thing (and he had a much better reason for swearing!).
 
Lee said:
So it's official - the ban is being upheld. No surprises there then.

And it's funny...I didn't hear any of you disagreeing when Drogba got a 5 match ban a few years back for essentially the same thing (and he had a much better reason for swearing!).
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One of Everton's players was also sent off last week for swearing - received a second yellow. He'll get a one match ban. Amazingly, noone has given a single fuck so far..
 
Lee said:
So it's official - the ban is being upheld. No surprises there then.

And it's funny...I didn't hear any of you disagreeing when Drogba got a 5 match ban a few years back for essentially the same thing (and he had a much better reason for swearing!).
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Except it's not essentially the same thing. Perhaps you'd like to see the full version of the Drogba incident.

Drogba got banned for abusing and insulting the integrity of the match official, not swearing. Notice the difference in body language and intensity and don't even try to compare that to Rooney who's extent of his crime was to look somewhat angry and say the f word twice.

Rooney's charge was for using foul/abusive language. It's pretty clear that the FA won't do shit when the next person comes along and swears. What about Pepe Reina telling the ref to fuck off vs West Brom that same day?

akuchi said:
One of Everton's players was also sent off last week for swearing - received a second yellow. He'll get a one match ban. Amazingly, noone has given a single fuck so far..
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So swearing is a yellow card offence then? So why does retrospective punishment lead to a two game ban in this case? Is that not excessive?

latinoheat said:
score more goals so he can disrespect all his teamates, the club, their fans and his manager and accuse the most successful english team of having no ambition and basically being shit, then he can use that as an excuse to pretend to get a transfer and threaten to quit, just so he can get a pay rise when he already makes upwards of 200,000 a week.

United fans quickly forgot that one didn't they.

Rooney is a piece of shit.
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No doubt Rooney is a piece of shit. I don't think you'll find that people have forgotten that at all. Except most footballers are mercenaries looking out for their next paycheck and any sensible lad comes to realise that and just wants them to do their best on the pitch - which Rooney is doing. There are cases of Giggs, Scholes etc who are true legends of the club and Rooney will never be seen in that way except as a very good player for us. Why don't you ask about Steven Gerrard handing in a transfer request a few seasons ago only to himself sign a fat new contract after it? He's been forgiven, it's not a Rooney thing.

Rooney's wages are a drop in the ocean compared to the sort of debt that the Glazers have saddled the club with and he probably brings in more than he costs in wages - a lot of the 250k wage you hear is in image rights i.e. a percentage of revenue that he himself brings to the club. I hope he earns more money in fact, considering that 50% of that ends up in the government's tax purse.
 
Look guys, what happened has happened and cannnot be changed, deal with it. (Regarding Rooney's 2 match ban).

Also, surely swearing into a camera with millions of people watching is worse then a little backchat to the referee with added bad language, eh? (Regarding comparison of Everton incident to Rooney's).

There are currently no set-in-stone rules regarding swearing in football, which something needs to be done about, admittedly.

Now this is just my opinion, but I reckon if these 'bad boys' footballers hadn't got the break they needed to reach this level, then they'd be out on the streets comitting crime after crime, some, such as Rooney, possibly ending up in prison. (Phalanx, don't take this to heart, it is just my opinion).

Also Akuchi>Phalanx
 
They were both foul-mouthed and aggressive - Drogba directed his tirade at a referee whereas Rooney's outburst was towards the cameraman but yes, the incidents aren't that similar, I admit.

Still, I just can't understand your stance here. This was a live match being televised all over the world, pre-watershed, presumably being watched by tens of thousands of impressionable children. There was an interesting piece in the Mirror the other day by some sports minister or the other, I'll see if I can find it...

lalalala

here:

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opi...er-Holt-and-Richard-Caborn-article720142.html

There's arguments for both sides, although even you'll probably agree that the other argument is nonsensical ('What’s happening to us? Is this the beginning of a McCarthyite period for football in this country?' lol).

Former Sports Minister Richard Caborn said:
I welcome the FA action against Wayne Rooney because it will send out a message to footballers to behave properly.

On the one hand we should wait to see what Rooney and Manchester United’s response is to the charge.

But, generally speaking, I welcome the fact that the football authorities are now showing that they are taking seriously their responsibilities and how the behaviour of players can affect our young people.

When I was Minister, I wrote to every chairman of every Premier League and Football League club asking them to have a word with their managers to remind their players about their behaviour because what happens on their pitches on a Saturday happens in the playground on a Monday.
We’ve seen it a lot how our young children copy what they see on TV on a Saturday.
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That's it really. If it went completely unpunished I think the FA would have been setting a very bad example to professionals and youngsters alike. I'm not just being bias here, and I'm no 'united hater' (contrary to what my recent posts may suggest) - I'd be saying the exact same things if it was a Newcastle player. You just can't walk up to television camera and act so aggressive and vulgar and expect to get away scot free because you apologised.

Oh and if nothing else, -

karma's a
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bitch
 
The crux of Drogba's banning was likely due to him making accusations of the ref being a cheat or similar, which UEFA/FA come down like a ton of brick on them. The swearing made it worse of course but not as much as the body language and aggression. Nasri got done for something similar I think recently after their Barca match.

I'm not condoning the elbow but zero fuss was made about Gerrard on Welbeck or Gerrard on Brown (though Brown is a huge cunt) when he went out of the way to miss a simple header to elbow Welbeck in the face. Gerrard got a yellow but despite being a massive violent thug off the pitch as well, gets away with no questions asked.

It's all swings and roundabouts when it comes to opinions on whether footballers have a duty to be role models etc (don't know why you'd want them to be one but whatever...). But I find the idea that he's getting banned because he's corrupted children's minds all over the world because it's pre-watershed quite laughable because if you don't want to be exposed to that sort of language it's best not to watch any football match.

Foul language is massively rife in football, you'll see players mouthing expletives all the time to officials, you'll hear clearly audible disgusting (Munich, Heysel etc) chants from the crowd. I was watching the West Ham match and Rooney was being called clearly "a fat bastard" and "granny shagger". You can hear the manager's swearing over the touchline mics (and indeed John O'Shea yell that's a fucking foul). Players swear all the time in their celebrations but I guess the trick is not to face the camera, I guess.
 
Agree with the charge for swearing, if you're gonna do it do it somewhere else, not right in the fucking camera. On the other hand, some consistency in the punishment from the FA please, if you're gonna ban him for swearing ban him for the elbow, otherwise dont.

Portugese teams steamrolling the Europa League, and badly too.
 
sbc said:
I'm not condoning the elbow but zero fuss was made about Gerrard on Welbeck or Gerrard on Brown (though Brown is a huge cunt) when he went out of the way to miss a simple header to elbow Welbeck in the face. Gerrard got a yellow but despite being a massive violent thug off the pitch as well, gets away with no questions asked.

Foul language is massively rife in football, you'll see players mouthing expletives all the time to officials, you'll hear clearly audible disgusting (Munich, Heysel etc) chants from the crowd. I was watching the West Ham match and Rooney was being called clearly "a fat bastard" and "granny shagger". You can hear the manager's swearing over the touchline mics (and indeed John O'Shea yell that's a fucking foul). Players swear all the time in their celebrations but I guess the trick is not to face the camera, I guess.
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1. Noone gave a fuck about it when Carroll elbowed Tate in the face last season, either. Which should have been a penalty, which would have put Swansea in the play-off spots for the end of season. With extra exposure comes extra responsibility (bitter bastard? moi?)

2. Got it in one. Swearing is pretty much a part of football. No doubt players are constantly swearing at the opposition, probably their own team too, and god knows the fans can be creative with the use of 'industrial language' in their chants. Swearing abusively at the referee or directly into a camera, though? No. Different.
 
the elbow went unpunished because the ref said he saw the incident and the FA could do nothing even if they wanted to because of that rule

there was a lot of swearing in that match by fans? FA going to ban the entire crowd in stamford bridge for 2 matches?

the FA just do what they like, they have no consistancy in banning at all, the higher the profile the worse the ban, its why we need it ran by the accosiations for refs managers and players, not a bunch of pencil pushing board members with potentialy biased views (being on teams boards and all) not saying they are, but it has the potential to go that way.
the respect campain is another stupid idea, referees should EARN resepct rather then just expect to be given it, its very rare that crap refs get punished.

and why no punishment for TV crews for being on the pitch in the first place?
 
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