np: UU Suspect Test Round 1 - Sunny Days

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Kyurem should eventually be banned. Scarf lets it revenge everything and Specs 2HKO's pretty much everything. Even with SR up, it has 5 switchins to throw out Outrages as strong as Garchomp or a Draco Meteor as strong as Latios.

Every time it comes in I have to hope I predict right and eventually revenge it with my Technitop.
 
There's nothing Chansey can do against a 101HP substitute, and many, many pokemon in UU that can take great advantage of them (Stallrein comes to mind).
 
There's nothing Chansey can do against a 101HP substitute, and many, many pokemon in UU that can take great advantage of them (Stallrein comes to mind).

Just as a heads up, just got out of a fight with one (my chansey vs his stalrein. Chansey still wins, he can only sub so many times, then gets hit with the toxic...

Edit: It was also not fun at all...=/
Kyurem should eventually be banned. Scarf lets it revenge everything and Specs 2HKO's pretty much everything. Even with SR up, it has 5 switchins to throw out Outrages as strong as Garchomp or a Draco Meteor as strong as Latios.
Pretty much, it would be the bolded. It essentially is playing the part of a slower, but bulkier latios in the UU metagame, that very few things can't take (Chansey, and the few steel types are the only things that come to mind, maybe Dusclops?). His physical movepool isn't worth the EV investment to go mix (and there is no way in hell he would be good just physically based), and D-meteor is by far, the better stab.
 
I seriously find it utterly disgusting that with 777 attack and a STAB'd Earthquake, CHANSEY DOESNT EVEN DIE. I mean, seriously, its idiotic.
 
Kyurem giving you trouble? Try it's greatest counter: Stealth rocks.

It's not that simple. I've been seeing Kyurem run with Toxic Spike absorbers as well as Xatu and spinners in order to maximize the offensive pressure he gives to the team. True, you could see their support for Kyurem as broken but think back to Gen 4 UU, who was more broken? Dugtrio supporting Raikou, or Raikou himself?
 
So...when are you guys trying out mixed LO/EB Victini's....

I bet Slowbro getting hit by a random Thunderbolt's going to be fun :DDDD

Yeah, it sucks and thanks for spreading the word >__>

I seriously find it utterly disgusting that with 777 attack and a STAB'd Earthquake, CHANSEY DOESNT EVEN DIE. I mean, seriously, its idiotic.

Which reminded me of the CB Dugtrio I fought yesterday. It did like 93% with Earthquake to my lol Cobalion... Pathetic.

...my Cobalion did 90% with HP Ice but that's irrelevant ok
 
Uhh, Cobalion has REALLY GOOD DEFENSE. Dugtrio has base 80 Atk.

I wonder if I can somehow bait Victini's Fusion Bolt with Mantine or something, and then bring in Dugtrio and pull a "LOL ZEKROM" in UU.

Probably not, once people start running LO.

Also TYPHLOSION CAN SWITCH IN AND OHKO WITH ERUPTION. That is all.
 
Also TYPHLOSION CAN SWITCH IN AND OHKO WITH ERUPTION. That is all.

I thought flash fire typhlosion was unreleased? In dreamworld, he can get away with this yeah. But in dreamworld, Latios and chandelure team up to remove all but one of latios' counters.

By the way guys, subgrowth Tangrowth on sun teams beats chansey one on one. Just saying.
 
Uhh, Cobalion has REALLY GOOD DEFENSE. Dugtrio has base 80 Atk.

I know, I found it pretty pathetic still... before Cobalion used HP Ice and couldn't kill Dugtrio either. An anemic face-off.

I wonder if I can somehow bait Victini's Fusion Bolt with Mantine or something, and then bring in Dugtrio and pull a "LOL ZEKROM" in UU.

Probably not, once people start running LO.

It would work with Thunderbolt only, as Victini still can't learn Fusion Bolt in PO... I guess.

EDIT-- Nvm it does exist.
 
Along with those already mentioned, there's Omastar, who double resists Fire and has utility with it being able to lay down any of the three hazards that you choose.

I'd have to completely rework my team to fit Omastar on... and the prospect of a life orb/expert belt variant is kinda scary... I dunno... I haven't gotten 'round to testing anything yet so I may end up giving him a shot later, along with Flash fire Arcanine...

I gotta wonder though... If we're all fairly sure that Victini will probably move to OU by the end of the month an' can agree on the fact that Victini doesn't belong in UU, then why not ban it now instead of wasting a round testing him?

On the topic of Chansey, I don't think she's broken by any means... Boosted Physical hits, boosted psyshocks, and certain walls all beat her 1 vs 1, so... She can take unboosted hits very well, sure. But I don't think that breaks her by any means.
 
So far, three that immediately stand out to me are Kyurem, Victini, and Mew.
I would switch Chansey and Mew. Chansey is far too strong of a wall. You know something is ridiciulous when pokes like hitmontop can't even KO with CC. Also, why is mew even considered for OU? I don't run him myself, but even with all his flexibility in sets, I have seen wobb around more than him.

I mean, I was also of the opinion Mew would have been fine in gen 4 OU, but that's just me.

Which reminded me of the CB Dugtrio I fought yesterday. It did like 93% with Earthquake to my lol Cobalion... Pathetic.

...my Cobalion did 90% with HP Ice but that's irrelevant ok
Lol, fail stand off.
 
I would switch Chansey and Mew. Chansey is far too strong of a wall. You know something is ridiciulous when pokes like hitmontop can't even KO with CC. Also, why is mew even considered for OU? I don't run him myself, but even with all his flexibility in sets, I have seen wobb around more than him.

I mean, I was also of the opinion Mew would have been fine in gen 4 OU, but that's just me.


Lol, fail stand off.

High Jump Kick does though, doesn't it?

Mew' s defensive set is really good... I'm not 100% sure if it's broken in UU yet, but that's 'cause there's other more worrisome stuff that need to go first... Like Victini!
 
Get a pure special attacker sweeper that attracts Chansey like the plague.

Then use Knock Off.

:DDDDD

Like what? The only one I can think of is Tentacruel, but that's OU. And generally I wouldn't want to waste a moveslot for Knock Off, it'd only be good on a defensive Pokemon like Empoleon (Then again, Empoleon has sweeper sets, so that could work I suppose with something such as Surf / Grass Knot / Agility / Knock Off with Leftovers or a Balloon, but.. I don't like sweeping Empoleons, so I'm not sure of what works)
 
Without Eviolite, doesn't Chansey still have the 2nd highest special defensive capabilities in the entire game? :D

Even last genertaion, Chansey was competing in UU with Leftovers.
 
For all you crying chansey's brokennes, use mandibuzz, the sub roost set with knock off kills it since without eviolite is not surviving, ghosts with 101 subs can set up on her and drain punch and leech seed are gonna heal your pokes entirely

PS: and it's not a bad poke, it has survied a +6 drain punch from gallade and whirllwinded, just saying she's awesome

PSS: and it's not like kyurem cannot be choiced, i found the claw sharpen set be pretty destructive
 
My problem with Chansey is that not only is she an amazing wall, but she's also an amazing team supporter with Wish and Aromotherapy. Last generation I would never consider her broken, but with this freaking Eviolite, I may be leaning towards thinking she's broken.

If she was more of a stand-alone wall like Deoxys-D (who isn't broken imo), then I would say she isn't broken. But the fact that she walls half of the metagame and keeps the rest of the team healthy is pushing it a bit for me. Though, I doubt I would vote for her being banned this coming suspect vote (if I get qualified...), mostly because there's some other stuff I want to get rid of first.

On Mew: I'm on the fence with Mew. Most of its sets are easily phazed out or outright beaten by my Snorlax, but there's no telling which set it's running until it's too late. I've been swept 6-0 by a SD version, and then other times a NP version comes along and does nothing except tickle my Steel or Snorlax. I also don't have any problems with the Taunt + WoW one either.

On Kyurem: I really don't think this thing is broken. Too much can beat the sweeper sets, such as TechniTop and various other things. The Staller is a bitch, but if you can get up SR and phaze it out with stuff like Empoleon, then it's easy enough to deal with. It kind of forces you to have a Steel-type on your team, such as Empoleon or Registeel, to absorb its Specs Draco Meteor and stuff, but it's not as broken as Victini.

Now Victini, that's about all I can say that I'm going to absolutely vote for banishment at this point. V-create OHKOing my 252 HP / 252 Def Bold Deoxys-D in the sun? Bitch please.
 
For all you crying chansey's brokennes, use mandibuzz, the sub roost set with knock off kills it since without eviolite is not surviving, ghosts with 101 subs can set up on her and drain punch and leech seed are gonna heal your pokes entirely

PS: and it's not a bad poke, it has survied a +6 drain punch from gallade and whirllwinded, just saying she's awesome

PSS: and it's not like kyurem cannot be choiced, i found the claw sharpen set be pretty destructive

I liked Taunt, roost, Toxic, and knock off on Mandibuzz myself... it was lulzy

Eitherway, Mandibuzz is one of the walls that beats Chansey that I was talking 'bout. Deoxys - D Probably beats it too.
 
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