Time for the weather

Rofellos

Weather Man

You probably clicked this thread thinking of another weather team, on the contrary however. I've seen nothing but politoed rain, ttar sandbox, ninetails sun. Well I am not one for following the crowd so I present to you my new team to battle the weather wars. Now the team is a little odd but I've done a bit of testing and normally I might have breloom in here but I like being creative as much as I can. The team is meant to not be trick room per say but to take advantage of all the speed from excadrills and terrakions that are changing the game. I also wanted something that could throw weather teams off and showcase reuniclus for the powerhouse he is.
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Reuniclus
Nature: quiet
Evs:252 spatk/190hp/66def
Item: life orb
Trait: magic guard
Moveset:
Psyshock
Focus blast
Shadow ball
Trick room

The metagame is full of speedy mons especially with the discovery of jolly terrakion and choice scarf being thrown around. Reuniclus came to mind because he is both something new as well as the beginning to my thought process. The team I've designed needed to tackle both opposing weather teams and abuse slower pokes. Trick room allows me to do just that and worry less about having speed evs. Psyshock is intriguing to me because it deals physical damage. The current metagame has been gearing up with sp def to deal with rain teams hydro pumps and thunders. Being able to catch folks off guard with a physical psychic attack is a sound tactic to me. Shadow ball is for opposing psychic types and especially good if either of the lati twins are around. Focus blast may be standar but I keep it around because I want to knock out ttar and steels that I am really tired of seeing. Reuniclus IMO is eventually going to become the next anti metagame all star, trick room may be the anti metagame move but with psyshock reuniclus has all the tricks to catch teams off guard, including his magic guard ability which does not take allow damage from my hail or his life orb. A pokemon that doesn't take recoil from life orb or my weather counter is a must have to deal with the current metagame.

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Abomasnow
Nature: quiet
Evs: 252 spatk/ 184 hp/ 54 atk/ 18 spe
Trait: snow warning
Item: leftovers
Moveset:
Ice shard
Giga drain
Substitute
Blizzard

Now a lot of folks might be a little confused. This isn't a stall team, not a hail team what's he doing here? Well I have looked over a few weather counter mons and for my personal preference I chose abomasnow. My reasoning is abomasnow has terrible speed, and I needed to abuse speed and priority. With trick room operating plus ice shard abomasnow can start fighting back and overcome is faults. With trick room going I can set up substitute and fight against speedy dangers like salamence, haxorus, gliscor, and the like. Blizzard is an instant, auto hail blizzard is too powerful to consider against anything else. Giga drain is the best recovery with leftovers to allow me more subsititutes. I know that with weather wars going on I need to safely end them. Abomasnow is here to disrupt weather and quickly dispatch any dragons, bulky waters, and such that could threaten my sweeps.

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Rotom w
Nature: modest
Trait: levitate
Evs: 4 hp/ 252 satk / 252 spd
Item: choice specs
Moveset:
Hydro pump
Voltswitch
Hidden power fire
Trick

Rotom w the washing machine we all know and love. He also is not the fastest mon so I got a little lax with his speed and added more hp. Hydro pump is more than usual but required to take advantge of drizzle teams as well as check ground types and other heatrans just to name a few. I've pondered back and forth between Tbolt and voltswitch but Now I've chosen VS for uturn capability. Hp fire was chosen against ferrothorn who I respect but simply will not allow to touch my team. Trick has now been added along with choice specs to catch bulky mons and sweeper types off guard.

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Gliscor:
Nature: impish
Evs: 252 hp/ 180 def/ 76 spe
Trait: poison heal
Item: toxic orb
Moveset:
Taunt
Ice fang
Earthquake
Swords dance

I've added gliscor to have a better excadrill counter. I may mess around with the moveset although he will function great as late game clean up and being able to hold off a lot of tough attacks.


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Heatran
Nature: calm
Evs: 252 hp/ 252 sp def/ 4 def
Item: leftovers
Trait: flash fire
Moveset:
Lava plume
Wil o wisp
Stealth rock
Roar

I've gone through many heatran sets and from experience and friendly advice heatran draws out ttar and with earth power I can end him or switch to reuniclus for trick room and focus blast*and halt sandstorm teams. Earth power is for opposing steels like magnezone who would try to trap and fire blast is for ferro the one steel I wouldn't waste earth power on. I use to run hp ice but with abomasnow around dragon pulse is here to fight off the Latis and beat them at their own game. Hp ice is for gliscor who I know inside and out and he has too many new set variations. Heatran is also a target for waters and probably even choice scarf terrakion, being able to lure out threats and beating them just gets me closer to a full sweep.*

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Dragonite
Nature: rash
Evs: 42hp/ 252 atk/ 218 spe
Trait: multiscale
Item: leftovers
Moveset:
Dragon dance
dragon claw
Roost
Fire punch

Now updated to be a physical Dnite and be able to break through weather makers and fight sun teams. Having fire punch to help against steels is also welcome.​
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Threats:
Gengar: reuniclus fights mono a mono with this ghost, don't want his speed hitting so trick room first obviously.

Deoxys: depending on it's form it can be pretty dangerous. Good thing dnit and reuniclus will hit hard.

Ferrothorn: heatran burns it.

Excadrill: gliscor can wall it and throw taunt to stop it from setting up.

Dragonite: mixnites seem popular so heatran or abomasnows ice shard can handle some damage.

Scizor: heatran can deal with the bug.

Tyranitar: reuniclus can handle it after trick room.

Magnezone: heatran can come in and not worry about being trapped.

Rotom w: abomasnow can tangle here since it's main attacks don't do much.

Politoed: rotom can zap it or abuse it's drizzle for stab hydro pumps.

Gastrodon: abomasnow works well with giga drain.

Quagsire: same as gastro.

Breloom: with trick room going reuniclus will smack it.

Jirachi: heatran can burn the star.

Starmie: rotom works wonders here.

Ninetales: not much of a threat but it is a weather maker so rotom can drown it.

Terrakion: trick room reuniclus will be my preferred method since they pride themselves on high speed and focus blast will be hilarious.

Gliscor: abomasnow and rotom can trick this bat well.

Blissey/ chansey: could be difficult but Dnites attack mix will leave a dent then reuniclus can finish.

Latios/ latias: dangerous twins but can be shut down since they do run a lot of speed. Reuncilus can shadowball and with sub up abomasnow can blizzard. Won't take on these two without trick room first though.

Zapdos: abomasnow can take electric and hit it's flying type with ice.

Heatran: rotom can wash it away.

Thundurus: dangeros and fast, so trick room and blizzard obviously.*

Volcarona: now gliscor is here and can use ice fang and has the typing to deal with it's attacks.

Conkledurr: reuniclus handles it no problem.

Mienshao: it can try to slip me up with fake out but it's speed won't matter under trick room.

So there's the new team hope you like and will rate! Thanks for reading!
 
Your team seems pretty solid. On Rotom-W though, your choice scarf set is weird, as being locked into Will-O-Wisp and Pain Split is kind of a problem. Sicne your team doesnt have a scarfer, Change the EV Spread to 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Speed Timid. Replace WoW with Hidden Power Fire, and Pain Split with Trick. On Heatran, replace Hidden Power Rock with Hidden Power Ice. This will help you score an easy ko on Gliscor and Dragonite after it's multi scale is gone. Dragonite counters Volcarona pretty effectively as it is.
 
Good idea. I added rock cuz I was worried about volcarona and I'm a little over cautios lol. But I made rotoms evs that way more bulk. Are you counting gettin rid of pain split to add full sp atk?

Also would it better to have hp ice or hp fighting on heatran? I did add earth power for ttar and I do have two effective ice moves on abomasnow already.
 
Rofellos said:
Good idea. I added rock cuz I was worried about volcarona and I'm a little over cautios lol. But I made rotoms evs that way more bulk. Are you counting gettin rid of pain split to add full sp atk?

Also would it better to have hp ice or hp fighting on heatran? I did add earth power for ttar and I do have two effective ice moves on abomasnow already.
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HP ice on heatran definitely; hitting d-nite and gliscor for the ohko is important. And give Rotom-W Volt Switch instead of Thunderbolt.
 
You should replace bronzong's macho brace with iron ball. It has the same effect but it also makes flying types hittable by ground moves.
 
Threats:
- Volcarona
- Terrakion

Hey, Rofellos. This is a pretty cool team, but it does have a few problems.

First of all, Volcarona will be problematic for your team since nothing will enjoy taking a boosted hit from it and you'll have to rely solely on D-Nite to check it. There is an extremely easy way to remedy this problem though without changing any of your Pokemon and that is to use a specially defensive variant of Heatran over your current set. It has enough bulk to take anything Volcarona may want to throw your way outside of Hidden Power [Ground] which is less common to see because of HP [Rock]'s better coverage and then use the combination of Stealth Rock and Roar to come out of the battle victorious. Moving your entry hazard onto Heatran allows you to free up a moveslot on Bronzong for Hidden Power [Ice]. This will let you hit Gliscor, Landorus, and Dragon-types for impressive amounts of damage.

Another problem for this team is Terrakion who if carrying the common Air Balloon item can set-up a Swords Dance against Heatran and then proceed to sweep you without any problems. My suggestion to remedy this problem is to replace Dragonite with Gliscor who provides you with a counter for the aforementioned Terrakion and other dangerous physical attackers. Use a Swords Dance variant as this will allow you to also act effectively as both a sweeper and a stallbreaker.

Sets:

Heatran @ Leftovers l Calm l 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Lava Plume l Protect l Stealth Rock l Roar
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb l Impish l 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 Spd
Earthquake l Ice Fang l Taunt l Swords Dance

Good team and good luck.
 
Rofellos said:
I've heard about volt switch but does it hit as hard as tbolt?
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It's 25 less base power, but it's very useful. You can not only hit them, but get switch advantage. Let's say they have a Skarmory out and switch into a Celebi. With thunderbolt, you'll hit the Celebi and then be forced to switch. Volt Switch would give you switch advantage and is much more useful most of the time. Also, Bronzong isnt really necessary if you add Gliscor, as it takes care of pokemon like Excadrill and such.
 
Rofellos said:
Well if I lose bronzong I would want to replace it with either a dragon or some other hard hitter
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The thing is, you can't do that. The only thing you could change Bronzong for is something like Gliscor. Gliscor can be a very effective tank with Swords Dance, and can sweep late game if the circumstances are right. It is also a very good stall breaker. Without something like Bronzong or Gliscor, Excadrill completely sweeps your team, even without sand. It outspeeds your entire team, and Rotom-W is ohkoed by +2 Return. Gliscor would be a good idea as it would give you another physical attacker, although you lose out on Stealth Rock. If you feel that Stealth Rock is crucial to your team, then keep Bronzong.
 
No I kinda like the special defense heatran who would get the stealth rock. Should I replace bronzong for gliscor and not
lose dnite?
 
Rofellos said:
No I kinda like the special defense heatran who would get the stealth rock. Should I replace bronzong for gliscor and not
lose dnite?
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Yeah replace Bronzong for Gliscor. It'll work much better. You can run Facade on it over Ice Fang because Rotom-W is a really common switch in. Since you have ice shard on Abomasnow I think that would work well.
 
Yea i'd definitely like to keep dnite and add gliscor. I know he's boss but I didn't add him because he's been seen so much I don't want to look like a carbon copy of other teams.
 
I'm not sure if you want to run that Dragonite set. With SR around, Life Orb recoil and the Hail hitting you, by the time you get off one move you'll already be around 60%. Even with Hail prevalent, I think Leftovers Dragon Dance can still prevail. The weather hits you after you've taken damage so you'll most likely still be able to use Multi-Scale.

The beauty with DDDragonite is that you continue to add onto your anti-weather line up. Heatran already does great, and Abomasnow comes on in in a pinch, but Dragonite solidifies that. If you face Rain, you just always guarantee your Leftovers so it's still useful there.

Also are you sure you don't want Scarf Rotom instead? Your team seems to be lacking speed if you're not using Reiun to hit hard.
 
Well rotom was scarf until I made extra changes but I cab switch it back and I can definitely consider dd nite. Think I should get rid of Draco meteor or roost for it and change evs?
 
I would run along the lines of Dragon Dance, Dragon Claw, Roost and Earthquake/Fire Punch. Nothing too fancy or risky, but can effectively get the job done against Sun teams, and over the course of a game against a Rain team, provided you remove their Steels.
 
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