OU Team - I am so unlucky.

Lucas

Well, as the title suggests, I am so unlucky, my ice fang misses, my pokemon get hit with crits, I get haxed on the first thunderbolt, its just not looking like the game likes me, I mean i payed for it, but it doesnt appreciate it, and just for the info, this happened to me in more than 10 battles in a row, so this is my team, please rate and give me a full analysis of what to replace, and thanks in advance! :)

1- Jellicent: Lead Staller
2- Umbreon: Sp. Wall
3- Gliscor: Physical Wall
4- Dragonite: Physcial Sweeper
5- Volcarona: Special Sweeper
6- Jirachi: Annoyer

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1- Jellicent: @Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
Evs: 252 Hp - 131 Def - 144 Sp. Def
Nature: Bold
Moveset:
1- Recover
2- Toxic
3- Surf
4- Taunt

Info: This guy is a staler, to be honest even I got bored using him, this moveset is slightly different, surf might get replaced with scald, toxic is for walls, taunt is for leads, recover is just to stall even more than usual!

2- Umbreon: @Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
Evs: 252 Hp - 252 Sp. Def - 6 Def
Nature: Careful
Moveset:
1- Curse
2- Payback
3- Toxic
4- Taunt

Info: This guy can stall and take hits, from nearly anything, payback is for stab killing and switch in, toxic is for walls, taunt is for leads, that's right 2 pokemon have taunt, curse if to become a multi-wall, toxic is to stall out.

3- Gliscor: @Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 Hp - 188 Def - 67 Speed
Nature: Impish
Moveset:
1- Swords Dance
2- Ice Fang
3- Earthquake
4- Protect

Info: This guy can be a sweeper and defend at the same time, earthquake is for stab and ice fang is for dragon types, protect is to stall for poison heal, swords dance is for a sweep.

4- Dragonite: @Leftovers
Trait: Multi-scale
EVs: 252 Speed - 252 Atk - 6 Hp
Nature: Adamant
Moveset:
1- Dragon Dance
2- Dragon Claw
3- Roost
4- Fire Punch

Info: Fire punch is for Skarmory after a couple dragon dances, dragon claw is stab, dragon dance is for well, killing pokemon, roost is to reactivate multi-scale.

5- Volcarona: @Leftovers
Trait: Flame Body
EVs: 252 Speed - 252 Sp. Atk - 6 Hp
Nature: Timid
Moveset:
1- Hidden Power Rock
2- Quiver Dance
3- Fiery Dance
4- Bug Buzz

Info: This guy Rules! he can sweep with nearly anything except a heatran, bug buzz is a STAB, so does fiery dance, hidden power rock, quiver dance is for a sweep.

6- Jirachi: @Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 Hp - 252 Sp. Def - 6 Def
Nature: Careful
Moveset:
1- Iron Head
2- Body Slam
3- Wish
4- Fire Punch

Info: This is a great annoyer, iron head for a flinch, body slam for a hax, wish for staling, fire punch for grass and steel types.

well please reply and tell me everything about this team, in every possible flaw and every possible correction, thanks! :)
 
Volcarona should be able to break physical walls but then again that pokemon is sooo weak to rock it hurts too much.
As for a wall breaker , you might want to get mixmence or a hydreigon i think its name is . Both have a strong draco meteor and have good coverage next to that.
On jellicent you have 131 defense EV's , that isnt dividable by 4 so maybe get 132 defence EV's :)
On gliscor , alot of people go with 188 def EVs i believe and add the rest to speed. This to outspeed other gliscors and actually alot of other pokemons as gliscor really isnt such a slow pokemon.
 
Soulfly said:
Volcarona should be able to break physical walls but then again that pokemon is sooo weak to rock it hurts too much.
As for a wall breaker , you might want to get mixmence or a hydreigon i think its name is . Both have a strong draco meteor and have good coverage next to that.
On jellicent you have 131 defense EV's , that isnt dividable by 4 so maybe get 132 defence EV's :)
On gliscor , alot of people go with 188 def EVs i believe and add the rest to speed. This to outspeed other gliscors and actually alot of other pokemons as gliscor really isnt such a slow pokemon.
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I already have a dragon type, I need a pokemon that can help me with type coverage, mixmence and hydriegon don't work very well with this team, so any other suggestions?
 
There are MANY good wall breakers with 5th gen: some of the best include : MixApe, Tyraniboah (Mix Ttar), Landorus, Kyurem, Genesect,and Keldeo. Overall a pretty good team imo, good coverage, typing, and pokes. however, you seem to be lacking a revenge killer. I'm not sure if you consider a Revenge Killer a necessity, but they certainly are advantageous. i recommend replacing Volcarona with Scarf Heatran, because his ground weakness and fighting weakness are both covered well, and he is a special poke similiar to volcarona.
 
Meow said:
There are MANY good wall breakers with 5th gen: some of the best include : MixApe, Tyraniboah (Mix Ttar), Landorus, Kyurem, Genesect,and Keldeo. Overall a pretty good team imo, good coverage, typing, and pokes. however, you seem to be lacking a revenge killer. I'm not sure if you consider a Revenge Killer a necessity, but they certainly are advantageous. i recommend replacing Volcarona with Scarf Heatran, because his ground weakness and fighting weakness are both covered well, and he is a special poke similiar to volcarona.
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Imposter ditto is a good revenge killer, but do I really really need a revenge killer and do I really need a wall breaker?
 
My personal rule for team building is that you can never have too many dragons.

I agree with the above poster (soulfly) who said that you could use a mixed wallbreaker. I also agree that MixMence is a great choice. Your comments about Salamence's coverage is unfounded; both it and Hydreigon have great coverage.

Try this set over Umbreon, who btw is complete set-up fodder for basically anything.

Salamence @ Life Orb
Nature: Naive
EVs: 116 Atk/216 SpA/176 Spe
>Draco Meteor
>Flamethrower
>Earthquake
>Outrage/Roost

With this set, Salamence obtains almost perfect neutral coverage. It also has ridiculous power on both sides of the spectrum. Draco Meteor, Flamethrower, and Earthquake are all pretty much givens for Mixmence. The last slot depends on whether you want a physical dragon type option or healing ability.
 
shinyskarmory said:
My personal rule for team building is that you can never have too many dragons.

I agree with the above poster (soulfly) who said that you could use a mixed wallbreaker. I also agree that MixMence is a great choice. Your comments about Salamence's coverage is unfounded; both it and Hydreigon have great coverage.

Try this set over Umbreon, who btw is complete set-up fodder for basically anything.

Salamence @ Life Orb
Nature: Naive
EVs: 116 Atk/216 SpA/176 Spe
>Draco Meteor
>Flamethrower
>Earthquake
>Outrage/Roost

With this set, Salamence obtains almost perfect neutral coverage. It also has ridiculous power on both sides of the spectrum. Draco Meteor, Flamethrower, and Earthquake are all pretty much givens for Mixmence. The last slot depends on whether you want a physical dragon type option or healing ability.
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That way I would have 3 times 4 weakness to ice types, salamence is too frail for this team, I need Bulk, and sheer power.
 
Jirachi is already a good special wall as it is, so I'd keep its set the same and switch Umbreon out for something else. Imo, you should switch Swords Dance and either Protect or Ice Fang for Taunt and Toxic, since Gliscor is faster than Umbreon and can thus take better advantage of these moves against stall teams.

This leaves you with one completely free slot, which I'd personally fill with its brother Espeon. You can use Espeon's Magic Bounce to reflect Stealth Rock should the opponent try to use it, thus keeping Volcarona safe for later. You can make Espeon a Calm Mind Baton Passer, which both lets you switch from Tyranitar safely and also lets you buff the special defense of something like Gliscor should you need to pass to it for synergy reasons. Obviously, Jellicent and Volcarona benefit the most from the Calm Mind boosts.

I'd also replace Surf with Scald on Jellicent since being able to Burn physical threats is very nice, and Fire Punch for Earthquake on Dragonite since you need a better switchin to Heatran than Gliscor. This leaves you free to run Rest + Chesto Berry on Volcarona instead, which gives it more survivability in the late game and lets it sweep with more confidence once Heatran and Gyarados are removed by Dragonite.
 
GtM said:
Jirachi is already a good special wall as it is, so I'd keep its set the same and switch Umbreon out for something else. Imo, you should switch Swords Dance and either Protect or Ice Fang for Taunt and Toxic, since Gliscor is faster than Umbreon and can thus take better advantage of these moves against stall teams.

This leaves you with one completely free slot, which I'd personally fill with its brother Espeon. You can use Espeon's Magic Bounce to reflect Stealth Rock should the opponent try to use it, thus keeping Volcarona safe for later. You can make Espeon a Calm Mind Baton Passer, which both lets you switch from Tyranitar safely and also lets you buff the special defense of something like Gliscor should you need to pass to it for synergy reasons. Obviously, Jellicent and Volcarona benefit the most from the Calm Mind boosts.

I'd also replace Surf with Scald on Jellicent since being able to Burn physical threats is very nice, and Fire Punch for Earthquake on Dragonite since you need a better switchin to Heatran than Gliscor. This leaves you free to run Rest + Chesto Berry on Volcarona instead, which gives it more survivability in the late game and lets it sweep with more confidence once Heatran and Gyarados are removed by Dragonite.
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Fire Punch is for better coverage on dragonite, I've personally had more success with fire punch, but I wanted to have a gliscor which attacks and defends, but I guess I could add taunt - toxic - earthquake - ice fang, and switch umbreon for espeon? and i think ill keep volcarona's set, though maybe I could add morning sun instead of the rest chesto berry thing? and what is the analysis for espeon.
 
I gave dragonite earthquake, and taunt and toxic to gliscor, I'll give volcarona rest since it could help get rid of status problems, though whats the analysis for espeon?
 
The Pokemon I would replace are Jellicent, Umbreon, and Volcarona.

Use this Espeon set in place of Umbreon:

Espeon @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 SpA, 252 Spe, 4 HP
Nature: Timid
-Calm Mind
-Psyshock
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power Ice

I have been using this Espeon with a lot of success. You can switch in on Pokemon like Forretress and Skarmory to block entry hazards and even put them on the opponent's side. If Skarmory has Roar or Whirlwind, that cannot hit you either, so you get a free turn to set up. Usually one Calm Mind is more than enough to obliterate things.

Use this Milotic set in place of Jellicent:

Milotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SpDef
Nature: Bold
-Recover
-Aqua Ring/Ice Beam
-Scald
-Haze

Haze will prevent your opponents from setting up even if it's their only Pokemon left. Ice Beam deals with Gliscor who would otherwise wall this set and then set up, whereas Aqua Ring can help with recovery.

I would replace Volcarona with a support Pokemon. Prankster is optional, but I highly recommend it. I have been using a mix of a support and offensive Tornadus, and it works very well.

Tornadus @ Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 SpA, 252 Spe, 4 Def
Nature: Timid
-Taunt
-Hurricane
-Focus Blast
-Hidden Power Ice

HP Ice deals with those dragons and Gliscor. Hurricane and Focus Blast are standard, and Taunt is to prevent Gliscor from setting up or using Substitutes and Protect and stuff like that. I use an odd number for HP in the case of Stealth Rocks, although it's not entirely necessary. You can get rain support so Hurricane can't miss if you want, but it's not completely necessary with Drizzle Politoed being everywhere nowadays.
 
LucaroarkZ said:
The Pokemon I would replace are Jellicent, Umbreon, and Volcarona.

Use this Espeon set in place of Umbreon:

Espeon @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 SpA, 252 Spe, 4 HP
Nature: Timid
-Calm Mind
-Psyshock
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power Ice

I have been using this Espeon with a lot of success. You can switch in on Pokemon like Forretress and Skarmory to block entry hazards and even put them on the opponent's side. If Skarmory has Roar or Whirlwind, that cannot hit you either, so you get a free turn to set up. Usually one Calm Mind is more than enough to obliterate things.

Use this Milotic set in place of Jellicent:

Milotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SpDef
Nature: Bold
-Recover
-Aqua Ring/Ice Beam
-Scald
-Haze

Haze will prevent your opponents from setting up even if it's their only Pokemon left. Ice Beam deals with Gliscor who would otherwise wall this set and then set up, whereas Aqua Ring can help with recovery.

I would replace Volcarona with a support Pokemon. Prankster is optional, but I highly recommend it. I have been using a mix of a support and offensive Tornadus, and it works very well.

Tornadus @ Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 SpA, 252 Spe, 4 Def
Nature: Timid
-Taunt
-Hurricane
-Focus Blast
-Hidden Power Ice

HP Ice deals with those dragons and Gliscor. Hurricane and Focus Blast are standard, and Taunt is to prevent Gliscor from setting up or using Substitutes and Protect and stuff like that. I use an odd number for HP in the case of Stealth Rocks, although it's not entirely necessary. You can get rain support so Hurricane can't miss if you want, but it's not completely necessary with Drizzle Politoed being everywhere nowadays.
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Tornadus is troblesome for me, this team wont work with it, but I need a set for espeon that can set up calm mind and batton pass, how about this set, do u think it might work? :

Espeon: @Leftovers
Timid
Magic Bounce
252 Speed - 252 Sp. Atk - 6 Hp
Calm Mind
Baton Pass
Psyshock
Shadow Ball

I already have too many walls, I need a couple pure sweepers, now about milotic, im not sure if it's a good lead, would you think so?
 
Lucas said:
Fire Punch is for better coverage on dragonite, I've personally had more success with fire punch, but I wanted to have a gliscor which attacks and defends, but I guess I could add taunt - toxic - earthquake - ice fang, and switch umbreon for espeon? and i think ill keep volcarona's set, though maybe I could add morning sun instead of the rest chesto berry thing? and what is the analysis for espeon.
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Espeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Magic Bounce
Timid Nature
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
- Calm Mind
- Substitute
- Baton Pass
- Psychic
 
tomtom5858 said:
Espeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Magic Bounce
Timid Nature
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
- Calm Mind
- Substitute
- Baton Pass
- Psychic
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That's a better set than mine, but maybe I could replace psychic with psyshock? to kill that damn blissey, but then I would have trouble with skarmory...
 
Lucas said:
Tornadus is troblesome for me, this team wont work with it, but I need a set for espeon that can set up calm mind and batton pass, how about this set, do u think it might work? :

Espeon: @Leftovers
Timid
Magic Bounce
252 Speed - 252 Sp. Atk - 6 Hp
Calm Mind
Baton Pass
Psyshock
Shadow Ball

I already have too many walls, I need a couple pure sweepers, now about milotic, im not sure if it's a good lead, would you think so?
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Milotic would not be ideal for lead.

As for the Baton Passing Espeon set, it will work if used in conjunction with Pokemon like Ninjask. But ANY, and I mean ANY Baton Passer needs Substitute, there is no reason to not use Substitute. Tomtom5858's set is perfect for a Baton Pass team.

I recommend this Ninjask. Ninjask has to be the lead on a Baton Pass team.

Ninjask @ Leftovers
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 80 Spe, 176 HP, 252 Atk
-Substitute
-Protect
-Baton Pass
-X-Scissor/Swords Dance

You will not need Swords Dance unless you are Baton Passing to a physical attacker.
 
I'm not planing a baton pass set, espeon will baton pass stuff to volcarona and Jirachi, but if the baton pass set is a faliure, I think I might need a dual screen set, or if that fails, i'll make it a special attacker! :)
 
Lucas said:
I'm not planing a baton pass set, espeon will baton pass stuff to volcarona and Jirachi, but if the baton pass set is a faliure, I think I might need a dual screen set, or if that fails, i'll make it a special attacker! :)
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Volcarona doesn't need Calm Mind. Quiver Dance already boosts both stats Calm Mind boosts and also boosts Speed. Jirachi should not be used as a special attacker, as I said the paraflinching set is the best one. So for the Espeon either Dual screen set or Special Attacker. I personally prefer the Special attacker set, but the Dual screen set still works, and can really support Pokemon with bad defenses like Mienshao or (despite not seeing much usage in OU) Zoroark.
 
LucaroarkZ said:
Volcarona doesn't need Calm Mind. Quiver Dance already boosts both stats Calm Mind boosts and also boosts Speed. Jirachi should not be used as a special attacker, as I said the paraflinching set is the best one. So for the Espeon either Dual screen set or Special Attacker. I personally prefer the Special attacker set, but the Dual screen set still works, and can really support Pokemon with bad defenses like Mienshao or (despite not seeing much usage in OU) Zoroark.
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True, but I rarely fully set up without any problems, so I think I'll try to run the dual screen set, maybe I could set up a couple quiver dances, what is the analysis for dual screen espeon?
 
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