Also, I do not see the point in running max Speed with him anymore. It hardly outspeeds anything you won't already Taunt and it makes him a very shitty wall.
it gets 2hkoed by most choiceband users and bug type/dark type users..I agree with you for a Deo D ment to wall, but I've been using the suicide lead on my HO team and I appreciate outspeeding many other leads. Which, by the way, is an amazing pokemon for HO, it nearly always gets 3 spikes layers.
Yes its not perfect, but don't bash it till you try it. Getting beat by two conditions doesn't mean it isn't good. It matches well against many leads, and remember, it is a suicide lead anyways.it gets 2hkoed by most choiceband users and bug type/dark type users..
start out with scarf heracross if you see deoxys d, literally no downsides if you have a decent team behind himYes its not perfect, but don't bash it till you try it. Getting beat by two conditions doesn't mean it isn't good. It matches well against many leads, and remember, it is a suicide lead anyways.
start out with scarf heracross if you see deoxys d, literally no downsides if you have a decent team behind him
I still rather use the fairy trio instead of deo-d as leads. Unless my team is heavily reliant on spikes I wouldn't run him.
meh deo D sucks.
Its got god mixed defences, but weak to pursuit and is pretty much dead when toxied/taunted.