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Vaporeon (Hydration Wall)

Jimera0 said:
Alright, thanks for the check! Going through it now.

However, I'd like to point out with the "gender inconsistancies" that I was going by this point in the Spelling and Grammar thread: "You may use the pronoun "who" instead of "which" or "that" and use "he" or "she" to refer to Pokemon as people if you so desire. It must be consistent for the entire article or analysis if this is done, however."

Also, Vaporeon is already referred to as "She" throughout the current analysis that is already uploaded on the site. Example: "She can still utilize her Baton Passing capabilities with Acid Armor, Aqua Ring, and her new move Work Up. However, because of more Pokemon who can hit Vaporeon hard in this new generation such as Virizion, as well as older Pokemon such as Breloom, Vaporeon will have difficulty walling to her full potential."

And my Vaporeon have always been female online, because I'll be damned if Vaporeon doesn't look female (also rivalry Haxorus, but mostly CMON SHE'S FEMALE D:!)

As such, I'm thinking that I don't have to change that, but if you can explain to me why I'm wrong then please do so and I'll change it.

Ah. I mainly used "it" because Vaporeon is actually more often Male than Female in-game. But I see what you mean.


EDIT: Some other things I did slightly different fixes for...
You suggestions are all in itallics, my comments have no changes.

"With this physically defensive spread, Vaporeon's reaches near balanced defenses become far more balanced, allowing it to wall threats on both ends of the spectrum with extremely well efficiency [Generalisation; preference]."

Instead of "become far more balanced" I did "become nearly balanced". The reason is that if I did your fix, it'd change it from the meaning I was intending. Also, I don't think it's grammatically correct to refer to something as being "more balanced" unless you're comparing it to something else, which I'm not. Also, I decided to change "extreme efficiency" to "extreme proficiency", as I realize now I got the word wrong and I don't think "extremely well" conveys the message powerfully enough.

Well, yeah; I changed it to "extremely well" to show that Vaporeon can wall both ends of the spectrum awesomely, but efficiency seemed to sound to me like Vaporeon took little to no damage from Physical and Special Attacks, which isn't exactly true. But you're right; proficiency does work better here.


"Additionally, her its [Gender consistency] superior fantastic [Superior to what?] recovery in Rest"

Superior to EVERYTHING! :P Well my point was that it's superior to any other form of recovery, but I'll just go with "fantastic" to keep things simple.

Ohoh! You got the point though :)


"The burn chance is an added boon bonus"

boon1n1. something extremely useful, helpful, or beneficial; a blessing or benefit ex. the car was a boon to him

I think that boon perfectly fits this circumstance, so I'm keeping it unless someone else can make an argument otherwise. If I want to use more interesting terms then I'm going to >:O

"Bonus n1. A payment or gift added to what is usual or expected."
I used Bonus here because boon sounds far more direct, while bonus is simply a helpful addition to something Vaporeon needed anyway. But if you want to use boon, hey, its your choice. :)


"<p>Hydration Stall Vaporeon is a greatly underestimated defensive threat. Rest means it can stall out opponents that 2HKO it as well as those that or 3HKO it, which is one step better than walls that use lesser recovery options something not many walls can claim to [Or something like that?]."

I agree this sentence is awkward, but your solution doesn't convey the point I'm making. Basically, I'm trying to get across the fact that since most walls can only heal half their health at once, they can only wall things that can 3HKO them or worse (and if the opponent does 3HKO them then they can't afford to do anything but heal or they die) whereas with Hydra-Rest you can wall anything that can't OHKO you (though if they 2HKO you can't do anything but heal and risk dying to a crit).
Can anyone come up with a way of saying all that in a concise manner? I'll make an attempt at it later and update you on what I've come up with.

Ohh, NOW I see what you meant to say! Well, I would suggest something, but it would have to end up being really long to not be awkward..


"Surf is viable over Scald for the minor power boost (which is amplified by the rain),.[Remove Comma / Add Period] but However, Surf it usually lands the same OHKOs and 2HKOs that Scald lands, and that burn chance is hard to give up."

I followed the suggestions here except replacing "it" with "Surf". I JUST was talking about Surf and I mention Scald in the sentence. There is no question what I am referring to and saying Surf again just sounds repetitive.

100% agree with you, my mistake.


"Acid Armor can be used in combination with witha more specially defensive EV spread,[Add Comma] to turning Vapreon from a bulky water into an immovable object,[Remove Comma] but However, in order to do this you have to give up on either an attacking option or support option to run it."

I think you made a mistake here as "Acid Armor can be used a specially defensive EV spread" doesn't make any sense :P. I suspect you meant to leave "with" unchanged there. Also, I replaced "to run it" with "to make room for Acid Armor" since I feel it isn't stated clearly why you're losing an an attacking/supporting option without it.

Another typo. You beat me to proofreading my own check @.@


"Baton Pass can aid in carrying over Wish healing passing and pass Acid Armor Boosts to an ally, so it is worth a look at if you’re running either move."

I'm sorry, but reading the sentence you made (Baton Pass can aid in carrying over Wish passing and Acid Armor boosts to an ally, so it is worth a look at if you're running either move." just doesn't work. The phrase "carrying over Wish passing" is particularly problematic. How about "Baton Pass can aid in passing Wishes and give Acid Armor Boosts to an ally, so it is worth a look at if you're running either move." instead?

My mistake there. You are my proofreader then :x


"What Other support Vaporeon needs largely depends on what moves you choose for it"

"Other support Vaporeon needs largely depends on what moves you choose" is definitely a fragment. "What other support Vaporeon needs largely depends on what moves you choose." also seems wrong though, and I'm not really sure how to fix it. Suggestions? I think this sentence may need to be totally reworked.

If Omicron cant think of a correction for that, I will.


"If Toxic is not used, then Toxic Spike support is nearly vital, and as even with Toxic it can give her the ability to beat threats she normally would not be able to get an attack in against, such as Choice Band Haxorus."

replacing and with as changes the meaning of the sentence. The first part is stating that without toxic, you need toxic spikes. The second part is talking about how Toxic Spikes can help even when you do have Toxic. Perhaps simply separate it into two sentences like this?
"If Toxic is not used, then Toxic Spike support is nearly vital. Even when she does have Toxic, Toxic Spikes can give her Vaporeon the ability to beat threats she normally would not be able to get an attack in against, such as Choice Band Haxorus."


Ferrothorn can lay all sorts of hazards and covers Vaporeon’s Grass weakness, so it fills that roll well. If you don’t have Roar then something to deal with stat boosters is vital, as Vaporeon becomes set-up bait for many of them

Ok this one is my mistake. I said Ferrothorn when I meant Forretress. Forretress is the one that can lay all the hazards (including Toxic Spikes) which is why I put it after I mentioned Toxic Spikes instead of after just the Hazards. Not that Ferrothorn is a bad teamate either (its resistances fit Vaporeon better in fact), it just can't lay Toxic Spikes (or rapid spin, but that's a different matter). In fact I'm going to add Ferrothorn in... just remember that I added something new that needs to be checked!

I would say sorry I missed that, but as I don't play BW, I'll just keep my mouth shut.


"Virizon is also a great counter to Ferrothorn, who gives Vaporeon no end of huge trouble."

Instead of huge I replaced "no end" with "a lot", since huge is an overstatement of how dangerous Ferrothorn is to Vaporeon. While Vaporeon can't really hurt Ferrothorn and it can actually use her to heal, it's very rare he can actually do permanent damage to her, as even Power Whip fails to 2HKO barring a crit.

Good choice.

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Alright, that ended up being quite a bit, but I think proofreading like this works best going back and forth anyway. I did do around half of your suggestions exactly as perscribed XD.
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Whew, took a while, I- OH MY GOD THERES MORE


Jimera0 said:
EDIT2:

"<p>Hydration Stall Vaporeon is a greatly underestimated defensive threat. Rest means it can stall out opponents that 2HKO it as well as those that or 3HKO it, which is one step better than walls that use lesser recovery options something not many walls can claim to [Or something like that?]."

Alright, I thought about this for a bit and came up with this:
"Hydration Stall Vaporeon is a greatly underestimated defensive threat. Since it can recover all its HP in one move using Rest, it has the ability to wall any Pokemon that cannot OHKO it, while all the other walls in the tier can only wall Pokemon that fail to 2HKO them."

While this solution doesn't bring up the issue of not being able to actually strike back in these circumstances, I think it illustrates the point I was trying to make; Hydra-Rest allows Vaporeon to wall many more Pokemon than those who rely on lesser forms of recovery. You guys think that solution checks out?

Definitely. This sentence will always sound a bit awkward, but its always needed, and this is probably the best option.

EDIT3:

"What Other support Vaporeon needs largely depends on what moves you choose for it"

Ok, how about "The other kinds of support that Vaporeon needs largely depends on what moves you choose to use."

Go for it, man xD

I think that sounds much better, how about you?
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Oh; I edited the wish passing sentence to how I think it should sound.
 
Amateur GP
Out In
[SET]
name: Hydration Wall
move 1: Rest
move 2: Scald
move 3: Roar / Wish
move 4: Toxic / Ice Beam
item: Leftovers
ability: Hydration
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / Spe 4

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While the previous set attempts to use uses Hydration for its offensive potential, this set aims to use the combination of Hydration and Rest to this set utilizes astounding bulk and instant recovery, via Rest and Hydration, to turn Vaporeon into an unbreakable wall. The purpose of this set is simple; The set's sole purpose is to wall the opponent’s attempts to harm your team while striking back with your offensive options stalling the opponentor supporting your teammates with your support options. With this physically defensive spread, Using defensive EV'sVaporeon reaches near balanced defenses, allowing it to wall threats on both ends of the spectrum with extreme efficiency. Additionally, her superior recovery in Rest combined with her immunity to status Rest, when used in tandem with Hydration, provides a flawless recover option and makes her a surprisingly effective stallbreaker, since wearing her down over time is futile. due to her status immunity and constant HP replenishment.Just remember that she Remember, Vaporeonis slower than most threats, so use Rest early and often.</p>

<p>Rest is the absolute crux of this set, and it cannot function without it. Because the recovery Rest provides is so crucial for Vaporeon, it cannot be left out of the set, so much so that this set will not function without it.Scald is her main STAB, and it hits very hard for a defensive Pokemon, providing a satisfying "oomph" thanks to her impressive base 110 Special Attack and rain's additional multiplier. The burn chance is an added boon that can greatly increase her walling potential. The main reason for using Scald over the previous generation's Surf for this set is because of Scald's addition 30% chance to Burn the opponent, which only amplifies Vaporeon's walling capabilities.The choice between Roar and Wish is a tough one, and depends on When contemplating the choice between Roar and Wish, one must considerwhat your team needs more. If you need a reliable shuffler and phazer, Roar is the way to gomore favorable choice.. If you need a near invincible, high-yield wish passer,Wish is the move you should choose. But, if team support in the form of Wish seems to aid the team, Wish should be chosen as the primary option.Toxic is usually generallythe preferred option in the final slot, allowing it to beat out the likes of Blissey and Porygon2 in a stall war while still allowing it to wear down most other Pokemon, though Ice Beam gives you that extra bit of security against the omnipresent Ice weak Pokemon that fill the OU tier, should you need it. </p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]


<p>Hydration Stall Vaporeon is a greatly underestimated defensive threat. Rest means it can stall out opponents that 2HKO it as well as those that 3HKO it, which is one step better than a step above walls that use lesser other recovery options. As such, the number of Pokemon it can wall is extremely high, as these calculations demonstrate. Even super effective attacks are possible to wall. The number of attackers Vaporeon can wall is incredible for such an adorable Pokemon, and the damage calculatios provided blow show just that. All the below calculations include Leftovers recovery.</p>

<ul class="damage_calculation">
<li>252 SpAtk Choice Scarf Rotom-W Volt Switch vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 44.61% - 53.02%
3HKO</li>
<li>252 SpAtk Choice Specs Rotom-W Volt Switch vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 66.59% - 78.88%
2HKO</li>
<li>252 Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs 252 HP/252+ Def Vaporeon: 30.39% - 35.78%
4HKO</li>
<li>252 +1 Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs 252 HP/252+ Def Vaporeon: 45.26% - 53.23%
2-3HKO</li>
<li>252 Atk Haxorus Outrage vs 252 HP/252+ Def Vaporeon: 50% - 59.05%
2-3HKO</li>
<li>252 Atk Choice Band Haxorus Outrage vs 252 HP/252+ Def Vaporeon: 75% - 88.58%
2HKO</li>
<li>8 SpAtk (Defensive Calm Mind) Virizion Giga Drain vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 33.62% - 40.09%
3-4HKO</li>
<li>8 +1 SpAtk (Defensive Calm Mind) Virizion Giga Drain vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 51.08% - 60.13%
2-3HKO</li>
<li>252 SpAtk Choice Specs Latios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 76.94% - 90.73%
2HKO</li>
</ul>

<p>Vaporeon is gifted with a wide movepool fullof useful options to abuse. While Rest is non-negotiable, all the other moves can be substituted out for other options. Surf is viable over Scald for the minor slight power boost (which is ,amplified further by the rain),. but it usually lands Usually providingthe same OHKOs and 2HKOs that Scald lands, and that burn chance is hard to give up. Surf is generally a lesser option due to the lack of Burn possibility.The final two moveslots are where you can get really creative. Lastly, the final two moveslots can be employed with some more creative options, rather than the conventional standards. Haze can be used over Roar, and if you don’t have much for and for teams short ofhazard support it Roar can actually be more useful since it wrecks disables Baton Pass teams built around Espeon, as well as giving you an edge in those tricky last Pokemon situations. Acid Armor can be used in combination with a more specially defensive EV spread to turn Vapreon from a bulky water into an immovable object, but you have to give up on but one must chose to drop either an attacking option or a support option to run it. Baton Pass can aid in Wish passing and pass Acid Armor boosts, so it is worth a look if you’re running either move. Rain Dance can be run to effectively mess with throw off opposing weather inducers as they switch in, but is dead weight against teams without weather. There are many other moves Vaporeon can use effectively in the last two slots, so it can be worth the time to take a look at its movepool and pick to select whatever moves work best for your team. The 4 EV's in Speed are specifically to outspeed Jellicent and Toxic inflict poisonit before it can Taunt you, so if you’re not running Toxic you canmove the Speed EV's into Special Defense. a defensive stat.</p>

<p>It goes without saying that Drizzle Politoed is absolutely vital to using this set, as without rain, Rest is more of a liability than a help. an aid.In order to ensure that Politoed’s and Vaporeon’s roles don’t do notoverlap, it is recommended you to run a choice item on Politoed when using this Vaporeon. What o Other support for Vaporeon needs largely depends on what moves you choose are chosenfor it. If she has Roar, hazard support is great since this recommended because Vaporeon is an extremely effective shuffler. If Toxic is not used, then Toxic Spike support is nearly vital, incredibly helpful, and even with Toxic it can give her the ability to beatbest threats she normally would not be able to get an attack in against, such as Choice Band Haxorus.normally unbeatable.Ferrothorn can lay all sorts of hazards and covers Vaporeon’s Grass weakness, so it fills that roll well. is an exception teammate because it covers both Vaporeon's Electric weakness and Grass weakness. In addition, it greatly bolsters Vaporeon's shuffling abilities due to its ability to lay down a variety of entry hazards.If you don’t have Roar is not chosen, then something to deal with stat boosters is vital strongly recommended , as Vaporeon becomes set-up bait for many of them. Type synergy wiseWhen placing emphasis upon type synergy, Virizon and Specialy Defensive Jirachi make great teammates, being able to absorb the powerful Electric- and Grass-type attacks aimed at Vaporeon, while she absorbs the Fire-type and physical attacks aimed at them. Virizon is also a great counter to Ferrothorn, who gives Vaporeon no end of troublegreat difficulties. Tentacruel and Toxicroak can completely wall Vaporeon and can use her as setup fodder, so a Psychic-type attacker can make a great partner. Latias and Latios make great partners teammates in this respect, and also have great exemplarytype synergy with Vaporeon, though they need to watch out for a boosted Sucker Punchs. Rain abusing Dragonite can also help deal with those two if you give himwith Thunder and Hurricane, and can also shrug off any Grass-type moves thrown at herVaporeon. Ground types also can hit both of those Tentacruel and Toxicroak super-effectively and take those dangerous Electric-type attacks, but be careful not to amplify your Grass weakness too much when picking one.</p>
Good luck!
 
JellyOs said:
Amateur GP
Out In
[SET]
name: Hydration Wall
move 1: Rest
move 2: Scald
move 3: Roar / Wish
move 4: Toxic / Ice Beam
item: Leftovers
ability: Hydration
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / Spe 4

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While the previous set attempts to use uses Hydration for its offensive potential, this set aims to use the combination of Hydration and Rest to this set utilizes astounding bulk and instant recovery, via Rest and Hydration, to turn Vaporeon into an unbreakable wall. The purpose of this set is simple; The set's sole purpose is to wall the opponent’s attempts to harm your team while striking back with your offensive options stalling the opponentor supporting your teammates with your support options. With this physically defensive spread, Using defensive EV'sVaporeon reaches near balanced defenses, allowing it to wall threats on both ends of the spectrum with extreme efficiency. Additionally, her superior recovery in Rest combined with her immunity to status Rest, when used in tandem with Hydration, provides a flawless recover option and makes her a surprisingly effective stallbreaker, since wearing her down over time is futile. due to her status immunity and constant HP replenishment.Just remember that she Remember, Vaporeonis slower than most threats, so use Rest early and often.</p>

<p>Rest is the absolute crux of this set, and it cannot function without it. Because the recovery Rest provides is so crucial for Vaporeon, it cannot be left out of the set, so much so that this set will not function without it.Scald is her main STAB, and it hits very hard for a defensive Pokemon, providing a satisfying "oomph" thanks to her impressive base 110 Special Attack and rain's additional multiplier. The burn chance is an added boon that can greatly increase her walling potential. The main reason for using Scald over the previous generation's Surf for this set is because of Scald's addition 30% chance to Burn the opponent, which only amplifies Vaporeon's walling capabilities.The choice between Roar and Wish is a tough one, and depends on When contemplating the choice between Roar and Wish, one must considerwhat your team needs more. If you need a reliable shuffler and phazer, Roar is the way to gomore favorable choice.. If you need a near invincible, high-yield wish passer,Wish is the move you should choose. But, if team support in the form of Wish seems to aid the team, Wish should be chosen as the primary option.Toxic is usually generallythe preferred option in the final slot, allowing it to beat out the likes of Blissey and Porygon2 in a stall war while still allowing it to wear down most other Pokemon, though Ice Beam gives you that extra bit of security against the omnipresent Ice weak Pokemon that fill the OU tier, should you need it. </p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]


<p>Hydration Stall Vaporeon is a greatly underestimated defensive threat. Rest means it can stall out opponents that 2HKO it as well as those that 3HKO it, which is one step better than a step above walls that use lesser other recovery options. As such, the number of Pokemon it can wall is extremely high, as these calculations demonstrate. Even super effective attacks are possible to wall. The number of attackers Vaporeon can wall is incredible for such an adorable Pokemon, and the damage calculatios provided blow show just that. All the below calculations include Leftovers recovery.</p>

<ul class="damage_calculation">
<li>252 SpAtk Choice Scarf Rotom-W Volt Switch vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 44.61% - 53.02%
3HKO</li>
<li>252 SpAtk Choice Specs Rotom-W Volt Switch vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 66.59% - 78.88%
2HKO</li>
<li>252 Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs 252 HP/252+ Def Vaporeon: 30.39% - 35.78%
4HKO</li>
<li>252 +1 Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs 252 HP/252+ Def Vaporeon: 45.26% - 53.23%
2-3HKO</li>
<li>252 Atk Haxorus Outrage vs 252 HP/252+ Def Vaporeon: 50% - 59.05%
2-3HKO</li>
<li>252 Atk Choice Band Haxorus Outrage vs 252 HP/252+ Def Vaporeon: 75% - 88.58%
2HKO</li>
<li>8 SpAtk (Defensive Calm Mind) Virizion Giga Drain vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 33.62% - 40.09%
3-4HKO</li>
<li>8 +1 SpAtk (Defensive Calm Mind) Virizion Giga Drain vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 51.08% - 60.13%
2-3HKO</li>
<li>252 SpAtk Choice Specs Latios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 76.94% - 90.73%
2HKO</li>
</ul>

<p>Vaporeon is gifted with a wide movepool fullof useful options to abuse. While Rest is non-negotiable, all the other moves can be substituted out for other options. Surf is viable over Scald for the minor slight power boost (which is ,amplified further by the rain),. but it usually lands Usually providingthe same OHKOs and 2HKOs that Scald lands, and that burn chance is hard to give up. Surf is generally a lesser option due to the lack of Burn possibility.The final two moveslots are where you can get really creative. Lastly, the final two moveslots can be employed with some more creative options, rather than the conventional standards. Haze can be used over Roar, and if you don’t have much for and for teams short ofhazard support it Roar can actually be more useful since it wrecks disables Baton Pass teams built around Espeon, as well as giving you an edge in those tricky last Pokemon situations. Acid Armor can be used in combination with a more specially defensive EV spread to turn Vapreon from a bulky water into an immovable object, but you have to give up on but one must chose to drop either an attacking option or a support option to run it. Baton Pass can aid in Wish passing and pass Acid Armor boosts, so it is worth a look if you’re running either move. Rain Dance can be run to effectively mess with throw off opposing weather inducers as they switch in, but is dead weight against teams without weather. There are many other moves Vaporeon can use effectively in the last two slots, so it can be worth the time to take a look at its movepool and pick to select whatever moves work best for your team. The 4 EV's in Speed are specifically to outspeed Jellicent and Toxic inflict poisonit before it can Taunt you, so if you’re not running Toxic you canmove the Speed EV's into Special Defense. a defensive stat.</p>

<p>It goes without saying that Drizzle Politoed is absolutely vital to using this set, as without rain, Rest is more of a liability than a help. an aid.In order to ensure that Politoed’s and Vaporeon’s roles don’t do notoverlap, it is recommended you to run a choice item on Politoed when using this Vaporeon. What o Other support for Vaporeon needs largely depends on what moves you choose are chosenfor it. If she has Roar, hazard support is great since this recommended because Vaporeon is an extremely effective shuffler. If Toxic is not used, then Toxic Spike support is nearly vital, incredibly helpful, and even with Toxic it can give her the ability to beatbest threats she normally would not be able to get an attack in against, such as Choice Band Haxorus.normally unbeatable.Ferrothorn can lay all sorts of hazards and covers Vaporeon’s Grass weakness, so it fills that roll well. is an exception teammate because it covers both Vaporeon's Electric weakness and Grass weakness. In addition, it greatly bolsters Vaporeon's shuffling abilities due to its ability to lay down a variety of entry hazards.If you don’t have Roar is not chosen, then something to deal with stat boosters is vital strongly recommended , as Vaporeon becomes set-up bait for many of them. Type synergy wiseWhen placing emphasis upon type synergy, Virizon and Specialy Defensive Jirachi make great teammates, being able to absorb the powerful Electric- and Grass-type attacks aimed at Vaporeon, while she absorbs the Fire-type and physical attacks aimed at them. Virizon is also a great counter to Ferrothorn, who gives Vaporeon no end of troublegreat difficulties. Tentacruel and Toxicroak can completely wall Vaporeon and can use her as setup fodder, so a Psychic-type attacker can make a great partner. Latias and Latios make great partners teammates in this respect, and also have great exemplarytype synergy with Vaporeon, though they need to watch out for a boosted Sucker Punchs. Rain abusing Dragonite can also help deal with those two if you give himwith Thunder and Hurricane, and can also shrug off any Grass-type moves thrown at herVaporeon. Ground types also can hit both of those Tentacruel and Toxicroak super-effectively and take those dangerous Electric-type attacks, but be careful not to amplify your Grass weakness too much when picking one.</p>
Good luck!
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Hey, sorry to undermine all your work but this is not the most recent version of my analysis and half of what you suggested has already been changed. The rest of what you suggest is purely subjective changes, some of which are even objectively wrong.

Example:
Latias and Latios make great partners teammates in this respect, and also have great exemplarytype synergy with Vaporeon, though they need to watch out for a boosted Sucker Punchs.

partners and teammates are interchangable, there is no need to suggest a change. The same can be said with "great" vs. "exemplary"... almost, except that "exemplary" is overstating their synergy. Their synergy is good, not astounding. Finally, "Sucker Punchs" should be "Sucker Punches".

The purpose of checks are NOT to rewrite the analysis exactly as you write it, but to fix grammar, spelling and format errors. Your suggestions actually add to the number of errors and make an incredible amount of unnecessary changes.

Sorry but I won't be using your check.
 
Sorry ;-; you said GP 0/2 so I assumed and you repeat "great" so much it needed a change. Worth a shot for 1st GP though
 
Jimera0 said:
QC Approvals: 3/3
GP Approvals: 1/2

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[SET]
name: Hydration Wall
move 1: Rest
move 2: Scald
move 3: Roar / Wish
move 4: Toxic / Ice Beam
item: Leftovers
ability: Hydration
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While the previous set attempts to use Hydration for its offensive potential, this set aims to use the combination of Hydration and Rest to turn Vaporeon into an unbreakable wall. The purpose of this set is to take wall (avoiding repetion) incoming attacks, support the team, and deal out decent damage all at the same time (Vaporeon can't switch in, Rest, and status something all at the same time). With this physically defensive spread, Vaporeon's defenses become nearly balanced, allowing it to wall threats on both ends of the spectrum with extreme proficiency. Additionally, her its (it's fine to refer to Vaporeon as she, but you need to be consistent about it. if you'd prefer she over it I've highlighted all instances of you refering to Vaporeon as it in green so that you can locate them easily and change them) fantastic recovery in Rest combined with her its immunity to status makes her it a surprisingly effective stallbreaker, since wearing her it down over time is futile. Just remember that she Vaporeon is slower than most threats, so use Rest early and often.</p>

<p>Rest is the absolute crux of this set, and it Vaporeon cannot function without it. Scald is her its main STAB, which hits very hard for a defensive Pokemon while raining. This is thanks to her its impressive base 110 Special Attack and the boost Scald acquires from the rain. The burn chance is an added boon that can greatly increase her Vaporeon's walling potential. The choice between Roar and Wish is a tough one, and mainly hinges on what your team needs more. If you need a reliable shuffler and phazer, Roar is the way to go. If you need a near invincible team healer, Wish is the move you should choose. Toxic is usually the preferred option in the final slot, allowing it Vaporeon to beat the likes of Blissey and Porygon2 in a stall war while also making it much easier to wear down other Pokemon. keeping the ability to wear down most other Pokemon. Ice Beam is also an option, as it gives you that extra bit of security against the omnipresent Ice-type weak Pokemon that fill the OU tier, (add comma) should you need it.(remove space)</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Hydration Stall Vaporeon is a greatly underestimated defensive threat. Since it can recover all of its HP in one move using with Rest, it has the ability to wall any Pokemon that cannot OHKO it, while all the other walls in the tier can only wall Pokemon that fail to 2HKO them.(space)As such, the number of Pokemon it can wall is extremely high, as these calculations demonstrate. Even super effective attacks are possible to wall. All the below calculations include Leftovers recovery.</p>

<ul class="damage_calculation">
<li>252 SpAtk Choice Scarf Rotom-W Volt Switch vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 44.61% - 53.02%
3HKO</li>
<li>252 SpAtk Choice Specs Rotom-W Volt Switch vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 66.59% - 78.88%
2HKO</li>
<li>252 Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs 252 HP/252+ Def Vaporeon: 30.39% - 35.78%
4HKO</li>
<li>252 +1 Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs 252 HP/252+ Def Vaporeon: 45.26% - 53.23%
2-3HKO</li>
<li>252 Atk Haxorus Outrage vs 252 HP/252+ Def Vaporeon: 50% - 59.05%
2-3HKO</li>
<li>252 Atk Choice Band Haxorus Outrage vs 252 HP/252+ Def Vaporeon: 75% - 88.58%
2HKO</li>
<li>8 SpAtk (Defensive Calm Mind) Virizion Giga Drain vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 33.62% - 40.09%
3-4HKO</li>
<li>8 +1 SpAtk (Defensive Calm Mind) Virizion Giga Drain vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 51.08% - 60.13%
2-3HKO</li>
<li>252 SpAtk Choice Specs Latios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Vaporeon: 76.94% - 90.73%
2HKO</li>
</ul>

<p>Vaporeon is gifted with a wide movepool array of useful options moves (to avoid repetition in the next sentence) to abuse. While Rest is non-negotiable, all the other moves can be substituted out for other options. Surf is viable over Scald for the minor power boost (which is amplified by the rain). However, it usually lands the same OHKOs and 2HKOs that Scald lands, and that burn chance is hard to give up. The final two moveslots are where you can get really creative. Haze can be used over Roar, especially if you don't have much in the way of hazard support. Haze allows Vaporeon to crush Baton Pass teams built around Espeon, as well as giving and also gives you an edge in those tricky last Pokemon situations. Acid Armor can be used with a specially defensive EV spread, turning Vapreon from a bulky water into an immovable object. However, in order to do this you have to give up on either an attacking option or support option to make room for Acid Armor. Baton Pass can aid in Wish passing and pass Acid Armor boosts, so it is worth a look if you're (wrong apostraphe) running either move. Rain Dance can be run used (repetition) to effectively mess with opposing weather inducers as they switch in, but is dead weight against teams without weather. There are many other moves Vaporeon can use effectively in the last two slots, so it can be worth the time to take a look at its movepool and pick whatever moves work best for your team. The 4 EVs in Speed are specifically used to outspeed Jellicent and Toxic it before it can Taunt you, so if you're (wrong apostraphe) not running Toxic you can move the Speed EVs into Special Defense.</p>

<p>It goes without saying that Drizzle Politoed is absolutely vital to use for using this set effectively, as without rain, Rest is more of a liability than a help benefit. In order to ensure that Politoed and Vaporeon's (wrong apostraphe) roles don't (here too) overlap, it is recommended you run a Choice item on Politoed. The other kinds of support that Vaporeon needs largely depends on what moves you choose to use. If she it has Roar, hazard support is great, since this Vaporeon is an extremely effective shuffler. If Toxic is not used, then Toxic Spike support is nearly vital. Even when she Vaporeon does have Toxic, Toxic Spikes can give her it the ability to beat threats she it normally would not be able to get an attack in against, such as Choice Band Haxorus..(extra period)Forretress can lay all sorts of entry hazards and covers Vaporeon’s Grass-type weakness, so it fills that roll well. If you don't (wrong apostraphe) have Roar then something to deal with stat boosters is vital, as Vaporeon becomes set-up bait for many of them. In terms of type synergy, Virizon, (remove comma) and specially defensive Jirachi make great teammates, being able to absorb the powerful Electric- and Grass-type attacks aimed at Vaporeon, while she it absorbs the Fire-type and physical attacks aimed at them. Virizon is also a great counter to Ferrothorn, who causes Vaporeon a lot of trouble. Ferrothorn is a great ally as well as in addition to being a formidable enemy, as it can lay entry hazards for Vaporeon to abuse as well as resisting her its weaknesses. Tentacruel and Toxicroak completely wall Vaporeon and can use her it as setup fodder, so a Psychic-type attacker can make a great partner. Latias and Latios make great partners in this respect, as they also have great type synergy with Vaporeon, though they need to watch out for a boosted Sucker Punch from Toxicroak. Rain abusing Dragonite can also help deal with those two if you give him it Thunder and Hurricane, and can shrug off any Grass-type moves thrown at her Vaporeon. Ground-types can also threaten hit both of Toxicroak and Tentacruel with their STAB moves super effectively and take those dangerous Electric-type attacks, but be careful not to amplify your Grass-type weakness too much when picking one.</p>

Alright, I've written up the anaylsis. I tried to follow the guidelines as closely as possible, but this is my first one so I'm bound to have made a few mistakes. Also I'm still open to changing some of the options and stuff I've put, but you had better have a good argument for the change.

EDIT: OH and also the "Other Options" section is going to need to be changed, but I'm not really sure how to go about that seeing as I didn't write the other analysis'. If anyone can give me some direction on that issue, it'd be greatly appreciated.

EDIT2: I've made changes refering to the first check, however they were not all exactly as perscribed. If you want to see my reasoning for the changes I made differently see post #49
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GP Approved: 2/2

Edit @ below: yep u_u
 
Alright, doing the same thing as with Shame That's check.

First though, in general I am unable to fix the apostrophe problem as is. When I was writing it I tried for quite a while to get my damn laptop to type the proper apostrophe, and was unable to get it to do so. If someone can give me a work around to this issue I'll gladly change it, but otherwise someone is going to have to edit it for me somehow.

Also yes, I do intend to use female pronouns to refer to Vaporeon. The instances where it was inconsistent were just oversights. I'll correct those now.

Now onto specifics.

"While the previous set attempts to use Hydration for its offensive potential"

"Its" here is correct, as I am referring to Hydration's offensive potential, not Vaporeons offensive potential.

"Rest is the absolute crux of this set, and it Vaporeon cannot function without it. Scald is her its main STAB, which hits very hard for a defensive Pokemon while raining. This is thanks to her its impressive base 110 Special Attack and the boost Scald acquires from the rain."

"it" is referring to the set, not Vaporeon in general (since Vaporeon can function just fine out of rain, just not with this set). Also, "While raining" is repetitive when followed by the next sentence, and the preceeding statement remains true even outside of rain. Scald packs a surprising punch... as long as sun isn't up in any case.

Aaaaand that's about all I had an issue with, I can see why you're on the GP team. You caught a lot of little things I missed and helped me phrase a lot of things a little bit better. I'm also somewhat ashamed of all the -type mistakes I made; I knew about that when I was writing it dammit! Anyway, thanks for your check! It looks like this is about ready to go up on the site now! Can I change the title to "Done" or is there another step I'm forgetting first?

EDIT: Alright, I think I've thought of a work around for the apostrophe issue. Simply copy and paste one from the "spelling and grammar" thread! There's only 4 occurrences, so it shouldn't take too long. If that doesn't work 3 of the 4 are just contractions which can be easily separated... but one of them is possessive and I don't see how the sentence could work without it. Hopefully it won't come to that though.

EDIT2: It worked! And there were actually 5 occurrences, I missed one because it was right next to another. Anyway, everything is all fixed now!
 
Jimera0 said:
"Rest is the absolute crux of this set, and it Vaporeon cannot function without it. Scald is her its main STAB, which hits very hard for a defensive Pokemon while raining. This is thanks to her its impressive base 110 Special Attack and the boost Scald acquires from the rain."

"it" is referring to the set, not Vaporeon in general (since Vaporeon can function just fine out of rain, just not with this set). Also, "While raining" is repetitive when followed by the next sentence, and the preceeding statement remains true even outside of rain. Scald packs a surprising punch... as long as sun isn't up in any case.
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Ok, that reasoning seems fine to me.
 
Alright, so since everything seems to check out now I hereby declare this analysis "Done"!

Thanks for all the help everyone, I'm glad that this finally got through. I hope that once this goes up Hydration Rest Vaporeon gets more love; it really is one of the best walls in the game, and is the most reliable hazer/phazer I've ever used.
 
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