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BW OU Christmas (Hail RMT)
- Thread starter Delko
- Start date
You should probably pump Abomasnow's SpD (max HP / max SpD), since Starmie, Rotom, Specs Politoed (Tenta takes like 50%, and you won't want to trash Kyurem) and such give you an outrageous amount of problems; while I fail to see too many situations in which the extra Attack comes in handy, especially with Scizor being the most common Pokemon at the moment, with Ferrothorn, Jirachi and Heatran right behind. Using Sassy might be interesting as well, as it allows you to underspeed Tyranitar and use Giga Drain, which means Scald won't be screwing you up and you get an extra source of recovery.
Outside of this, very cool team, good luck.
Outside of this, very cool team, good luck.
Seems to me you didn't read my post. I never said you had an issue, I'm asking how you deal with it.
He switches in (+0 vs +1), he DD's as you BU again (+1 vs +2), you drain punch while he DD's on Multiscale (+2 vs +2), and 3HKO's you.
With a little residual damage (on the thing taking all of you rock attacks from the likes of CB Tar and friends), you have issues.
Solid team, nice job :)
May I ask how high you peaked?
May I ask how high you peaked?
Tbh, it's a stupid question to ask how to deal with a threat when pokemon X and Y have been taken out. Answer is, we can't handle Scizor and Jirachi without Heatran or Tentacruel. Although, perhaps Conkeldurr might be able to pull something off, you never know.
Abomasnow has max Attack for the most used pokemon in the period this team was created; Dragonite (and similar pokes). And despite not maximum special bulk, he can still take on Starmie and Rotom-W without to much trouble, and in case we want to take some pressure off Abomasnow, we still have Tentacruel and Kyurem to deal with Politoed (all variants). We'll try to bulkier set thought to see what it gives, thanks for the suggestion.
Hehe, Mynism asked me to remove this from the introduction, but let's just say the 1500 benchmark was reached ;)
McMeghan, we love you too !
Abomasnow has max Attack for the most used pokemon in the period this team was created; Dragonite (and similar pokes). And despite not maximum special bulk, he can still take on Starmie and Rotom-W without to much trouble, and in case we want to take some pressure off Abomasnow, we still have Tentacruel and Kyurem to deal with Politoed (all variants). We'll try to bulkier set thought to see what it gives, thanks for the suggestion.
Hehe, Mynism asked me to remove this from the introduction, but let's just say the 1500 benchmark was reached ;)
McMeghan, we love you too !
This team is just a beautiful work of art. :D I really like how you guys used Kyurem. I've used it a while ago and the choice sets are just devastating. I'd definitely like to try sub Kyurem now that you guys have sparked my interest.
The only problem I can see this team having is CB Terrakion as it can come in and threaten you with its STABs. Reuniclus isn't going to like taking a CB SE/X-scissor and Conk doesn't like CB Close Combat. I'm sure it can be played around with the two, though. gj and gl to the both of you. ^_^
The only problem I can see this team having is CB Terrakion as it can come in and threaten you with its STABs. Reuniclus isn't going to like taking a CB SE/X-scissor and Conk doesn't like CB Close Combat. I'm sure it can be played around with the two, though. gj and gl to the both of you. ^_^
solid team man :]
Oh god, I hate facing this team. In other words, great work!
I don't really have any ideas for improvement, but I never really liked psyshock on reuniclus, it makes it too easy for sd glis to set up on it. You do have 2 solid checks for it though.
Now that I think about it, acrobat could probably stop your team cold, with a little damage on kyurem.
Then again, ice shard + hail dmg. Oh well, you get the idea.
I don't really have any ideas for improvement, but I never really liked psyshock on reuniclus, it makes it too easy for sd glis to set up on it. You do have 2 solid checks for it though.
Now that I think about it, acrobat could probably stop your team cold, with a little damage on kyurem.
Then again, ice shard + hail dmg. Oh well, you get the idea.
Thanks for the love :)
@Tangelo : Dragonite DDs once under neutral weather
Dragonite DDs twice under neutral weather :
I can test it under Trick Room if you want :jump:
Edit : Im gonna test Blastoise over Tentacruel 'cause Psychoboost Deoxys-S is very annoying..
@Tangelo : Dragonite DDs once under neutral weather
Start of turn 1
D4RR3N called Deoxys-S back!
D4RR3N sent out Dragonite!
A$AP Rocky used Bulk Up!
A$AP Rocky's Attack rose!
A$AP Rocky's Defense rose!
Mynism: yea but without hail ;)
Start of turn 2
The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Dance!
The foe's Dragonite's Attack rose!
The foe's Dragonite's Speed rose!
A$AP Rocky used Bulk Up!
A$AP Rocky's Attack rose!
A$AP Rocky's Defense rose!
Start of turn 3
The foe's Dragonite used Outrage!
A$AP Rocky lost 181 HP! (45% of its health)
A$AP Rocky used Drain Punch!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Dragonite lost 22% of its health!
The foe's Dragonite had its energy drained!
A$AP Rocky restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 4
The foe's Dragonite used Outrage!
A$AP Rocky lost 174 HP! (43% of its health)
The foe's Dragonite calmed down!
The foe's Dragonite became confused!
The foe's Dragonite ate its Lum Berry!
The foe's Dragonite's status cleared!
A$AP Rocky used Drain Punch!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Dragonite lost 42% of its health!
The foe's Dragonite had its energy drained!
A$AP Rocky restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Delko is watching the battle.
Mynism: just outrage again
Start of turn 5
The foe's Dragonite used Outrage!
A$AP Rocky lost 174 HP! (43% of its health)
D4RR3N: kk
A$AP Rocky used Drain Punch!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Dragonite lost 34% of its health!
The foe's Dragonite fainted!
The foe's Dragonite had its energy drained!
A$AP Rocky restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
D4RR3N: aight
Delko: oh god
D4RR3N called Deoxys-S back!
D4RR3N sent out Dragonite!
A$AP Rocky used Bulk Up!
A$AP Rocky's Attack rose!
A$AP Rocky's Defense rose!
Mynism: yea but without hail ;)
Start of turn 2
The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Dance!
The foe's Dragonite's Attack rose!
The foe's Dragonite's Speed rose!
A$AP Rocky used Bulk Up!
A$AP Rocky's Attack rose!
A$AP Rocky's Defense rose!
Start of turn 3
The foe's Dragonite used Outrage!
A$AP Rocky lost 181 HP! (45% of its health)
A$AP Rocky used Drain Punch!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Dragonite lost 22% of its health!
The foe's Dragonite had its energy drained!
A$AP Rocky restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 4
The foe's Dragonite used Outrage!
A$AP Rocky lost 174 HP! (43% of its health)
The foe's Dragonite calmed down!
The foe's Dragonite became confused!
The foe's Dragonite ate its Lum Berry!
The foe's Dragonite's status cleared!
A$AP Rocky used Drain Punch!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Dragonite lost 42% of its health!
The foe's Dragonite had its energy drained!
A$AP Rocky restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Delko is watching the battle.
Mynism: just outrage again
Start of turn 5
The foe's Dragonite used Outrage!
A$AP Rocky lost 174 HP! (43% of its health)
D4RR3N: kk
A$AP Rocky used Drain Punch!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Dragonite lost 34% of its health!
The foe's Dragonite fainted!
The foe's Dragonite had its energy drained!
A$AP Rocky restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
D4RR3N: aight
Delko: oh god
Start of turn 1
D4RR3N called Deoxys-S back!
D4RR3N sent out Dragonite!
A$AP Rocky used Bulk Up!
A$AP Rocky's Attack rose!
A$AP Rocky's Defense rose!
Mynism: inb4 crit
Start of turn 2
The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Dance!
The foe's Dragonite's Attack rose!
The foe's Dragonite's Speed rose!
A$AP Rocky used Bulk Up!
A$AP Rocky's Attack rose!
A$AP Rocky's Defense rose!
Start of turn 3
The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Dance!
The foe's Dragonite's Attack rose!
The foe's Dragonite's Speed rose!
A$AP Rocky used Drain Punch!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Dragonite lost 21% of its health!
The foe's Dragonite had its energy drained!
Start of turn 4
The foe's Dragonite used Outrage!
A$AP Rocky lost 241 HP! (60% of its health)
A$AP Rocky used Payback!
The foe's Dragonite lost 78% of its health!
The foe's Dragonite fainted!
D4RR3N called Deoxys-S back!
D4RR3N sent out Dragonite!
A$AP Rocky used Bulk Up!
A$AP Rocky's Attack rose!
A$AP Rocky's Defense rose!
Mynism: inb4 crit
Start of turn 2
The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Dance!
The foe's Dragonite's Attack rose!
The foe's Dragonite's Speed rose!
A$AP Rocky used Bulk Up!
A$AP Rocky's Attack rose!
A$AP Rocky's Defense rose!
Start of turn 3
The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Dance!
The foe's Dragonite's Attack rose!
The foe's Dragonite's Speed rose!
A$AP Rocky used Drain Punch!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Dragonite lost 21% of its health!
The foe's Dragonite had its energy drained!
Start of turn 4
The foe's Dragonite used Outrage!
A$AP Rocky lost 241 HP! (60% of its health)
A$AP Rocky used Payback!
The foe's Dragonite lost 78% of its health!
The foe's Dragonite fainted!
I can test it under Trick Room if you want :jump:
Edit : Im gonna test Blastoise over Tentacruel 'cause Psychoboost Deoxys-S is very annoying..
Meant Lefties so Hail wouldn't effect it, but thanks for explaining. One thing I might try is HP Fire > Leech Seed on Aboma since I've noticed it lures in and kills Scizor pretty often, making it easier for Kyurem to sweep.
hey delko, u running dem 8 speed ev's on (BAN ME PLEASE) for my scizor D:?, also dem conkelderpz be trollin
you need a wish passer of some kind tho, otherwise you won't beat me delko <3 u need to keep ur tentacruel and (BAN ME PLEASE) alive for big threats
Thanks for the kind words everyone!
We used to have HP Fire > Leech Seed for some time actually (and the funny part was that HP Fire doesn't even OHKO Scizor).
But like I mentioned in an earlier post, Abomasnow kinda needs the bulk it currently has (which it loses when we go mixed). Leech Seed can also heal the other teammembers a bit, kinda like a Wish-passer ;)
We used to have HP Fire > Leech Seed for some time actually (and the funny part was that HP Fire doesn't even OHKO Scizor).
But like I mentioned in an earlier post, Abomasnow kinda needs the bulk it currently has (which it loses when we go mixed). Leech Seed can also heal the other teammembers a bit, kinda like a Wish-passer ;)
Haha, what can I say, I like those teams I guess ;)
Hey Delko
Great team.
I think that you should try out the Sub Punch set on Conkeldurr.
Also, Ice Wind Gengar is a nice pokemon, you could consider replacing Reuniclus with him.
Also how did you get those images to be so small?
Great team.
I think that you should try out the Sub Punch set on Conkeldurr.
Also, Ice Wind Gengar is a nice pokemon, you could consider replacing Reuniclus with him.
Also how did you get those images to be so small?
Subs in damaging weather with pokemon not immune to it are generally not a good idea. You basically are just cutting your own health with no way to get it back. Breloom is a WAY better Sub Puncher anyway. Icy Wind Gengar lol. Gen 4 much?
No more DS means Blastoise loses consideration, yay. He should never have gotten any consideration in the first place though. Blastoise is so outclassed by Tenta; I would hate to see this great team tainted by him.
Thats about it. Sorry I don't have any real advice for this team, it's already so great.