Another Trick Room Team

Reuniclus TR

Hello Smogon community, I new to this website, but I not new to competitive battling. I came to this site for the best advice for my team. I currently using this team for the VGC 2012, and I need some help! Changes are in Blue.

Okay first my favorite pokemon of all is Reuniclus.
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So I decided to make a team revolving around him. Easy right, but he has a base 30 speed so I know I'm gonna have to put him on a Trick Room Team.

Now for the Lead, I decided to find a pokemon that had a lot of bulk and that could faze my opponents lead. So I cam up with this one

The Lead
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Bronzong
Ability Levitate
Item @ Mental Herb
Relaxed Nature
Evs: 252 Hp, 132 Def, 124 Sp Def
Trick Room
Stealth rock
Hypnosie
Gyro Ball

This is my New Lead Pokemon after switching out Dusclops for a better lead pokemon, I chose Mental Herb to ensure Trick Room, and to stop those taunter Leads. There's not much to say but to Set up Trick Room, Stealth Rock and Spam Earthquake. And maybe force a switch out.


Now for my favorite pokemon.
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Reuniclus @ Life Orb
Abilty Magic Guard
Quiet Nature
Evs: 172 Hp, 32 Def, 252 sp Attack, 52 Def
Trick Room
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power Fire
The Ev spread is from the VGC 11. So just pointing that out. This set is very simple, Trick Room, STAB Psychic for the poison and fighting types that come in, and Shadow Ball is for ghost and other psychic, and Hidden Power Fire is more reliable than Focus Blast. I can hit Ferrothorn and Scizor more effectivily than Focus Blast and not have to worry about the poor accuracy of Focus Blast always missing.

Now for the Sweepers. After some calculation some damge Honchkrow wasn't performing as well I hoped it would. B/c I would always have a hard time switching him in. So after the advice of Slowking12 I switch Honchkrow to Rhyperior
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Rhyperior @ Life Orb
Ability Solid Rock
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Megahorn
Ice Punch

This is my replace for Honchkrow. He has a lot more power and a lot of Bulk. With a 110 Hp, 140 atk, and 130 Def, this thing will take a couple hits compared to Honchkrow. Quake\Stone coverage is good but with STAB even better. Megahorn is for the psychics and Ice Punch is just for more coverage.

The Next sweeper is the A glass cannon with a Blessed Movepool and HP, and Attack, not defenses as well.
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Emboar @ Life Orb
Ability Reckless
Brave Nature
Evs: 252 Hp, 252 attack, 6 def
Flare Blitze
Hammer Arm
Wild Charge
Earthquake/ Head Smash

Alright the Shiny Pig. For a starter pokemon he has to be the best I have seen. With a low speed he is good for Trick Room, with a wide move pool that hits a lot of pokemon he had to be on my team. The only problem he has is recoil damage, nad Life orb recoil. But I know this pokemon has a lot of Power with his DW ability so I made him an All out attacker. Which means he probably will only last for about 3 turns. Flare Blitze and Hammer Arm are his STAB that do well to a lot of POkemon. Wild Charge is for those Water Types that think they SPAM scald or Surf. Earthquake is for a free turn of less recoil damage, but I might consider Head Smash

Now for my Last Trick Roomer. After noticing I have a Scizor problem and two mons weak to water types I needed a pokemon that could absorb water types and set up Trick Room at the same time, while having some bulk. And thats how I came to Jellicent

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Jellicent @ Leftovers
Ability Water Absorb
Sassy Nature
Evs: 252 Hp, 150 Def, 108 Sp Def,
Trick room
Will-O-Wisp
Scald
Shadow Ball

This is my supporter, that gets the burns to Cripple those CB Scizor, and other physical attackers. Scald is a STAB that could also get a burn. Shadow Ball is for Coverage and STAB.


Okay, I have notice some Trick Room Teams on Smogon and I have seen some problems they all have in common. What happens when Trick Room fails. None of them have a pokemon that will be fast enough to strike their opponents. So I came up with this fella


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Salamance @ Choice Scarf ???
Abiltity Moxie
Naughty Nature
Evs: 4 Hp, 252 sp attack, 252 speed
Draco Meteor
Fire Blast
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
With his newest DW ability. Moxie this means late game sweeper. Fire Blast is for Scizor, Escavailier, Ferrothorn, and Forretress. With this Nature its at 336 attack, 319 sp attack. With Draco Meteor im losing -2 sp attack/+1 attack so its a win win situation. Earthquake is for coverage, And Outrage will be for The Moxie up STAB move.

Well thats it for my team. I hope I get some good advice from people. I'm considering switching Honchkrow out with Swampert so I can have Stealth Rock, and He has a lot more defenses than Honchkrow maybe 15 Base differnce but I'll see.
 
Hey man, I love Trick Room. So I'm gonna give you some advice on your team

So let me just say, the teams looks pretty good. The one thing I don't like is Honchkrow. Lets break it down. Honchkrow 100Hp, 125atk, 52DEF, 105 sp Atk, 52 SpDef. Now it has TERRIBLE defensive, which means you are gonna have a hard time trying to bring out on the field. You already said Emboar is a glass cannon you don't need two sweepers that have POOR DEFENSES. Might I suggest a Rhyperior.
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Brave NAture @Life Orb
Solid Rock
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Ice Punch
Megahorn

This rhyperior hits 13 of the 17 types, and with Emboar you probabaly are hitting all 17 types super effectivly.

Now for your trick roomers, I like the Porygon2, but I think you should change him for a Physical Wall Slowbro or a Special Defensive Wall Slowking. You want to be sure that your trick room setters have enough bulk. Or if you dojn't want to switch, might I suggest changes his nature to Relaxed. B/c Lucario can OHKO porgyon2 with the eviolite. So just a heads up.

Now your Salamance, I think you should change its nature to Rash. B/c your already invested 252 sp attack you might as well make him special sweeper. But I see you have MOXIE, well if you use Draco Meteor and lose 2 special attack but KO your opponent you gain 1 attack. So I see why you kept it an Attacking Salamance to ensure a better Physical Sweep when you have enough Moxie Ups

Other than that a pretty good team. I wouldn't mind even challegening you to a battle one day.
 
Reuniclus just a pointer, Salamence CANNOT have Outrage AND Moxie Ability, already tested that for PO and you can't not even for breeding. maybe change Outrage for Dragon Claw?
 
xxhalohawkxx said:
Reuniclus just a pointer, Salamence CANNOT have Outrage AND Moxie Ability, already tested that for PO and you can't not even for breeding. maybe change Outrage for Dragon Claw?
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You can get Outrage as a Special DW Move. So It is legit, but it can't be Shiny.

PO hasn't fully updated yet with all the new changes this new DW Area has brought.
 
Biosci said:
You can get Outrage as a Special DW Move. So It is legit, but it can't be Shiny.

PO hasn't fully updated yet with all the new changes this new DW Area has brought.
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Why can't it be shiny? I thought you can breed it down with a male Salamance with Outrage and a female with its DW ability
 
Reuniclus TR said:
Why can't it be shiny? I thought you can breed it down with a male Salamance with Outrage and a female with its DW ability
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It can't since Outrage isn't an egg move, and Pokes obtained from the DW world can never be shiny. If you have any other questions just ask me via VM instead of spamming your thread. Sorry for the post
 
hey pretty cool team.
might I suggest you change Reuniclus' EV's to these?
EVs: 192 HP / 64 Def / 252 SAtk, and if not, you said Def twice on his, I'm assuming second one is special but just making sure :p

Also, try running Recover on porygon to add to his longevity, and possibly download over tracem because you have a healthy invest in sp attack and with the correct boost you will have a lot more damage output!
 
Cool team bro, but use Recover on P2, it's way better than Tri Attack and BeamBolt already has amazing coverage. Pretty cool btw, al these UU Pokemon in an OU enviroment. Might try it out.
 
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@CheatEnabled
Thanks for the advice I will make those changes.
Also I changed the Evs around for Dusclops.
Last, I have a question. Some people say my Emboar is Hacked, but on Pokecheck is says it's legit but it's Ability is Unreleases. So is it illegal to use until it's DW Ability is officially released?
 
hey man ,as a fellow lover of trick room team i'm gonna try to help :

just looking at the team , there's a big landorus issue , you don't have any switch in on that thing , dusclops can help but he won't be able to take the SD set ..

Another issue is latios , he can come on emboar and suck and just fire off those ridiculousl powerful DM , late game that's dangerous .

so i suggest replacing dusclops with a bronzong , he counter landorus and latios nicely , the offensive TR set is my favourite :

bronzong @ macho brace

252 HP/ 252 ATK - brave

-Trick room
-earthquake
-Gyroball
-Zen headbutt / rock slide / stealth rock

this guy is an absolute nightmare to offensive teams , he can just plow through those frail fast teams , gyroball is a really powerful stab , and can get you some surprisisng KO on things that thought they can setup on bronzong , i just love this set ,it neveer dissapointed me on any of my teams .
rock slide is to prevent some dangerous setup , most notably .. THAT BROKEN VOLCARONA

second , replace earthquake on emboar with hp ice , so that you don't get walled by gliscor and be a setup fodder for dragonite .

on porygon 2 , i think recover is nice but HP fire is much more nicer , ferrothorn loves coming on him to throw those annoying EH , and scizor thinks he can freely spam u turn , that's when you get them with a HP fire in tha face ! but if you go with hp fire i suggest going for a download porygon , porygon +1 late game is pretty much gg .

rhyperior is fine although i don't really like him , he just adds to that scizor weakness , but whatever if it's being working for you .

good luck with the team .
 
I disagree with some of the things @z-Rex. He has Porygon2 as a Check on Landorus. With 4x weak to Ice beam and most don't invest in defense and HP it's probably OHKO.

The second thing is that he has a check for Scizor, which is Salamance and Emboar both carry a supereffective move that will OHKO scizor. And not to mention Dusclops can stop Scizor in his place with Will-O-Wisp.

Now for the stuff I agree with z-Rex. You shouldn't put recover on Porgyon2 but HP fire for ferrothorn and scizor.

The only concern I have for switching Dusclops is for Bronzong, why not switch him for Jellicent to stop scizor because he resist almost all of his stab moves. But I like the Bronzong set b/c most Bronzong's I see are defensive and that can through people for a loop.
 
porygon isn't a reliable check without recover , and with the sand he won't be able to keep up .

emboar is frail and with that recoil moves + like orb , one flare blitz can put it under 50% ,wich is enough for scizor to take care of with a +2 BP .
 
I've notice something that nobody has committed on. Your team is too weak to water type pokemon. My I suggest changing Porygon2 to a Water Absorb Jellicent. He counters Scizor with Will-O-Wisp and has recovery. Also I would suggest changing Reuniclus's Ivs around to have Hidden Power Fire to counter Ferrothorn, Scizor, and other pokemon that can wall your Reuniclus since Focus Blast is so unreliable. Hope this suggestion helps your team.
 
I thought that none of the Unova starters have their DW abilities yet.

EDIT: I just caught that this was Dream World, but you still can't use Emboar for VGC 12, recommend changing that.
 
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