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Company Mafia - Day 5 End - Won by the Workers
- Thread starter Blue_Tornado
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On Day 1 if there is no majority a random vanillager is lynched. I agree PR is probably our best bet as far as a lynch target goes, its probably better than taking chances with a random lynch. ##Vote Pokemonrocks777
And why, Jalmont, do you feel that? Gut?
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Can I get some opinions on red and Itchni
Oh FUCK MY 1K
Oh FUCK MY 1K
INCOMING SERIOUS POST
Orcinus, my feeling is that darkpenguin has played so far of a person attempting to avoid confrontation and being called out. His posts have mainly consisted of repeating past comments by other players. He is posting more, but i get a sense that most of his posts aren't really saying anything and are in fact are an attempt to ease the pressure off of him.
The problem i have with the pkmnrocks lynch is that the chances of him being mafia are so undoubtedly low that I feel we have a better shot at hitting mafia with darkpenguin (or walrein or rediamond for that matter). I feel that this lynch is a way to let most of the mafia off the hook, as they haven't had a chance to talk with their team and are therefore maybe not as confident in staying hidden. This lynch feels to me as a way for the mafia to regain control and set down a gameplan. This of course is moot however if the mafia can already communicate. Besides even if pkmnrocks is mafia I would be tempted to let him live on the off chance that he perhaps reveals his teammates.
In regards to roles tonight, I am in favor of Orcinus' plan for having the inspector hit Rediamond, but I think that Itchni is probably suspicious enough (in my eyes at least) to warrant being inspected. I don't really understand why he is so keen on voting me, and his general attitude of being very unhelpful gives me a bad feeling. His whole demeanor feels very defensive to me. Anyways, as for the BG, do you think we should give a list of a couple people for the BG target, or just let him randtarget as I believe was suggested by someone before? Hooker should probably idle.
sorry for taking so long, i was rudely interrupted multiple times throughout writing this
Orcinus, my feeling is that darkpenguin has played so far of a person attempting to avoid confrontation and being called out. His posts have mainly consisted of repeating past comments by other players. He is posting more, but i get a sense that most of his posts aren't really saying anything and are in fact are an attempt to ease the pressure off of him.
The problem i have with the pkmnrocks lynch is that the chances of him being mafia are so undoubtedly low that I feel we have a better shot at hitting mafia with darkpenguin (or walrein or rediamond for that matter). I feel that this lynch is a way to let most of the mafia off the hook, as they haven't had a chance to talk with their team and are therefore maybe not as confident in staying hidden. This lynch feels to me as a way for the mafia to regain control and set down a gameplan. This of course is moot however if the mafia can already communicate. Besides even if pkmnrocks is mafia I would be tempted to let him live on the off chance that he perhaps reveals his teammates.
In regards to roles tonight, I am in favor of Orcinus' plan for having the inspector hit Rediamond, but I think that Itchni is probably suspicious enough (in my eyes at least) to warrant being inspected. I don't really understand why he is so keen on voting me, and his general attitude of being very unhelpful gives me a bad feeling. His whole demeanor feels very defensive to me. Anyways, as for the BG, do you think we should give a list of a couple people for the BG target, or just let him randtarget as I believe was suggested by someone before? Hooker should probably idle.
sorry for taking so long, i was rudely interrupted multiple times throughout writing this
Explain "Pokemonrocks chances of maf are undoubtedly low"
BT, can mafia communicate already?
I agree with dark penguin with some extent. That being said, I think the same could be said for shinyskarmory, coolking, cereza, maybe even capefeather. I find you singling out dp from all these people suspicious. I also find your reasoning for Pokemonrocks=clean extremely suspect.
BT, can mafia communicate already?
I agree with dark penguin with some extent. That being said, I think the same could be said for shinyskarmory, coolking, cereza, maybe even capefeather. I find you singling out dp from all these people suspicious. I also find your reasoning for Pokemonrocks=clean extremely suspect.
Oh cool
I had no idea user:vintage brooks was even in this game
I hate NOC sometimes Jesus Christ I want to lynch everyone.
I had no idea user:vintage brooks was even in this game
I hate NOC sometimes Jesus Christ I want to lynch everyone.
We're still missing quite a few typical idiots, though I do enjoy seeing some of the usuals like walrein still competing.
Why is deadline in 22 hours? that's fucking stupid.
whatever, I'll read up after a bit of lol
@BLUE TORNADO I will only be able to post from my phone from friday to sunday on account of going to a wedding. Sub me out if that is a problem for you.
Don't want the above to get buried in my next post anyway, since it'll probably be decently sized
whatever, I'll read up after a bit of lol
@BLUE TORNADO I will only be able to post from my phone from friday to sunday on account of going to a wedding. Sub me out if that is a problem for you.
Don't want the above to get buried in my next post anyway, since it'll probably be decently sized
Itchni, 13 posts:
1 = troll, with a comment of no way to change having nothing to go on.
2, 3 = troll with troll votes
4 = commenting on failures of people to vote as the rules request
5 = First real post; answer to your questionaire. No real comment on Ullar's role, possible setup that could easily have been copied from someone (and no explanation whatsoever, either), and his answer to "bold or coward" was "Depends on your role" with no explanation about what he means by that, such as inspector being a coward or an LPV mafia (stupidest role I could think of) being bold, or what.
6 = bashing the questionaire, saying we need a vocal inspector, and giving some criteria for an inspector claiming. Also mentions that NOC is about luck.
7 = suggesting we not reach majority because we might lynch a vanilla townie. If NOC is truly about luck, then randomly lynching is actually our best bet. See: Wikipedia. Random play is our best option, assuming no better odds of lynching a mafia than randomly choosing someone. Also speaks of maybe losing a power role. Rediamond and Jalmont had the most votes on them at the time.
8 = defends NOC as more luck-based than usual. I should probably point out that my experience indicates that yes, he might be right, but that minimizing luck is crucial.
9 = unvotes a troll vote
10 = votes Walrein, nothing else. Joining the lynch pressure.
11 = approves of bandwagoning Walrein, a stark reversal of his previous not reaching majority thing, though he did have a decent reason (re: the rest of the thread). Speaks against Jalmont for making a mafia list in the blind, but didn't vote him because ending the day was a priority for him.
12 = Reverses again on his voting thing, saying he doesn't want to lynch an important villager. He is still voting Walrein, despite saying he doesn't think Walrein is mafia.
13 = Votes Jalmont, now that the Walrein Lynch is being dismantled. Says any random vote should be lynched. Previous post said D1 is a "crapshoot" and says we have to kill someone, when the rules say that only majority will do so and a lack of it won't kill someone.
My conclusion on Itchni: Mafia
I'll try to come up with something for Rediamond soon.
i swear i have said this already but i will repeat it. I dont think Bt put him as mafia because of his past performance where he sold out his teammates. If I was the host you can sure as hell bet i would not put him on the mafia.
Orcinus Duo said:
i am focusing on darkpenguin because i am mafia along with shinyskarmory, coolking, cereza, and capefeather and i dont want to be associated with them. that way i can look clean and my mafia team can win the game!
Itchni never had a single original reason to wagon Walrein--he was merely hopping on with everyone else in the thread. I think he saw a way to end the day so he could talk with his scumbuddies, so jumped to it. Then he remembered his 'views' and so retracted in a later post.
Once again, I feel that a lot of itchni's actions can be explained as
@Jalmont, no, I was not aware of PR selling out his teammates. But I don't really care tbh. Past games are in the past, there really isn't a reason to consider them aside from playstyle (as AG has). Also, are you using trolling as a way to guarantee your own safety and dodge questions? A: Yes
Once again, I feel that a lot of itchni's actions can be explained as
@Jalmont, no, I was not aware of PR selling out his teammates. But I don't really care tbh. Past games are in the past, there really isn't a reason to consider them aside from playstyle (as AG has). Also, are you using trolling as a way to guarantee your own safety and dodge questions? A: Yes
I know I've left out a few things, but I believe those few things to be mostly irrelevant
Rediamond, 8 posts:
1 = troll post in GL;HF stages.
2 = speaks against an Orcinus Duo versus Aura Guardian debate. Given how it turned out last time, I agree with him. Mentions using the vote cannon on veterans, but says it would be bad since we could squirm out from under it easily, regardless of village/mafia. Proposes that we use the vote cannon on the inexperienced to get them to reveal something before they can talk with their mafia buddies (best-case). Basically, I don't think either would work, but using it on veterans would probably be better, I think.
3 = votes Shinyskarmory to make him talk.
4 = Shows a desire to make silent people talk. Speaks against Walrein lynch and votes Pokemonrocks777, asking him for opinions on Orcinus Duo, Paperblade, and Walrein.
5 = Says Walrein should talk more. Says that there is no way he would be mafia defending Walrein so soon after (Jalmont's?) theory was posted, as if one were mafia, it would confirm the other as mafia.
6 = speaks against a Jalmont lynch. Also says it would be a bad idea to lynch Paperblade or Ullar. Also speaks against lynching only actives for fear of an inactive endgame.
7 = Unvotes whatever he had before (Shinyskarmory). Names "Paperblade/Orcinus/Jalmont or Rediamond/Walrein/Itchini" as the probable mafia faction. Mentions the prior as possibly lynching the actives and saying the loss of villagers was "unfortunate" Leaving this link, since I think this post could be very important if he flips village. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4282834&postcount=135
8 = Votes Cereza. Pokemonrocks777 follows. Encourages building up interactions of users to look at as we gain info. Cereza has made no useful posts in the thread, whatsoever.
My conclusion on Rediamond: If Itchni/Walrein are mafia, then suspicious. If not, almost certainly village.
Rediamond, 8 posts:
1 = troll post in GL;HF stages.
2 = speaks against an Orcinus Duo versus Aura Guardian debate. Given how it turned out last time, I agree with him. Mentions using the vote cannon on veterans, but says it would be bad since we could squirm out from under it easily, regardless of village/mafia. Proposes that we use the vote cannon on the inexperienced to get them to reveal something before they can talk with their mafia buddies (best-case). Basically, I don't think either would work, but using it on veterans would probably be better, I think.
3 = votes Shinyskarmory to make him talk.
4 = Shows a desire to make silent people talk. Speaks against Walrein lynch and votes Pokemonrocks777, asking him for opinions on Orcinus Duo, Paperblade, and Walrein.
5 = Says Walrein should talk more. Says that there is no way he would be mafia defending Walrein so soon after (Jalmont's?) theory was posted, as if one were mafia, it would confirm the other as mafia.
6 = speaks against a Jalmont lynch. Also says it would be a bad idea to lynch Paperblade or Ullar. Also speaks against lynching only actives for fear of an inactive endgame.
7 = Unvotes whatever he had before (Shinyskarmory). Names "Paperblade/Orcinus/Jalmont or Rediamond/Walrein/Itchini" as the probable mafia faction. Mentions the prior as possibly lynching the actives and saying the loss of villagers was "unfortunate" Leaving this link, since I think this post could be very important if he flips village. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4282834&postcount=135
8 = Votes Cereza. Pokemonrocks777 follows. Encourages building up interactions of users to look at as we gain info. Cereza has made no useful posts in the thread, whatsoever.
My conclusion on Rediamond: If Itchni/Walrein are mafia, then suspicious. If not, almost certainly village.
I sincerely want to vote you for that, regardless of trolling or not. But I probably won't.
... Though if Jalmont flips mafia, we may want to investigate that post.
... Though if Jalmont flips mafia, we may want to investigate that post.
I am so very confused on Red's scum faction theory. Could someone explain how we have orcinus/Jalmont/Paperblade maf? Red/Walrein I get, but Itchni is connected how?
I would also like to point out that AG's reasoning doesn't make sense. He agrees with Red's scumfactions, and yet lists itchni as mafia and rediamond as...village?
And um I'd like to hear itchni's defense first before lynching him.
I would also like to point out that AG's reasoning doesn't make sense. He agrees with Red's scumfactions, and yet lists itchni as mafia and rediamond as...village?
And um I'd like to hear itchni's defense first before lynching him.
Explain
I have a lot of difficulty understanding why past game alliances factor in to current game alliances.