I took the quiz, probably voting for Obama
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2012 USA Election Thread: Obama projected winner
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jesus vader ARE YOU jill stein?
Why?
Because a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Romney.
Its also a vote against a system where candidates can ignore the views of the general public knowing they will be forced to vote for you anyway, thanks to the threat of an idealogically different opponent who is in fact pretty much exactly the same. In other words a vote against corruption.
Not to mention being a vote for the candidate he actually agrees with..
Not to mention being a vote for the candidate he actually agrees with..
But seeing that he actually agrees with Obama 75% of the time it would be stupid to vote for a candidate that he agrees with 98% of the time who is 100% likely not to win at risk of the candidate he agrees with 7% of the time winning.
The only time I would vote for a third party candidate is if he/she actually was invited to a televised debate. There's still a slight chance that that will happen this year, but it's unlikely. I would rather put my vote where it might have an impact (even though it is very likely not to have an impact in any situation, regardless)
Romney picked Paul Ryan as his running mate, now I can definitely say I won't be voting for him. Does Paul Ryan's selection affect any one else's decision?
Yeah, can't wait to get Obama out of office even more now.
Great pick by Romney. Show's Romney isn't just pandering to a state or a group of people. He's serious about getting the budget under control and tackling entitlement reform. Ryan's knowledge of the budget combined with Romney's executive private-sector experience makes a great ticket. Republicans are definitely fired up now.
to be fair, in recent years we haven't exactly seen this trend continuing. Gore? Edwards? Cheney? Biden? Palin? Ryan seems to fit right in with this crowd. It appears that nowadays, the president is (or, at least, plays) a moderate, and they choose their running mate to fire up the base.
actually, biden was just a terrible pick who did nothing to help obama. i call him "kevlar." a biden presidency is the #1 thing keeping obama safe right now
Neither do I. Ryan's press-released statements that I've seen on CNN and the like largely herald him as a bipartisan candidate who is willing to work through issues, which as of right now is a huge contrast to Romney, who doesn't seem to want to work with the left at all (speaking from a strictly outside-looking-in point here). Their language is conflicting with each other, despite the fact that they're being heralded as the "comeback team" or whatever idiot buzzwords they're using. It's making Ryan and Romney seem like they're competing for the same position. They should be far more on the same page if they want a shot at this, because right now, Obama is waltzing back into office even with Romney's cashflow backing him up.
Actually, as governor of Massachusetts, Romney has a long history of working with liberals to get stuff done. Although if they're really being called the "comeback team" then i have legitimately heard better names in RMT titles.
ps obama gets more money than romney in a typical month iirc
Romney has been bringing in more money than Obama for the past 3 months.
I also don't think that Paul Ryan will help Romney much, though granted, he was probably the best choice Romney could make (except Marco Rubio, but that's a whole different discussion). As RBG pointed out, Ryan isn't too popular outside of conservative circles, and while Romney will need "his" (aka the republican) base to turn out on election day, I feel that he won't be much of a help elsewhere. Also, his record isn't too good, something the Democrats can easily capitalize on with attack ads. He's the dude in charge of the budget, yet we still have a skyrocketing national debt? He claims that his budget (which romney has vigorously supported) will fix the country, but it turns out to be mathematically impossible when you crunch the numbers? He claims to be a bipartisan, yet when the Democrats offered their highly generous "10:1" $10 of spending cuts for every $1 of tax increases deficit-trimming plan, Ryan wouldn't even consider it? And finally, Ryan does nothing to help Romney's larger demographic problems, which are endemic of his entire campaign btw, with female, Latino and independent working class voters. Maybe the romney camp has done their best at salvaging a bad situation, but for now, I can assuredly say that that Romney/Ryan ticket is NOT a winning one.
It doesn't really show that Romney is being idealistic about anything. It's been obvious from day one that he will say / do anything to get into office. If he wanted to talk about policy he has had the floor for several months and has been deliberately vague, it just seems like a hot topic now that he feels battered by Obama ads. Picking a vp is, by definition, pandering -- literally every candidate does it. Every republican candidate always says we're going to curb spending, etc etc, but it never happens and it's certainly not going to happen with Romney. I don't know what entitlement reform is but it sounds like the name of a summer camp Romney desperately needs to attend. (And if his private sector-experience is such a calling card, why is he nearly begging Obama to stand down ?_?) It's ironic that him switching to "let's talk about policy now" is considered a move away from idle dialogue and pandering because that's exactly what it is, a calculated move.
Paul Ryan is also completely unqualified to be President in the case that Romney should die, which I know is not considered a big deal, but I think should be a little more pertinent in the choice of VP rather than "how can i net this state/these people/my base." The very last thing Romney is is a serious ideologue. He is a gold-plated etch-a-sketch and it is an insult to his nakedly capitalistic intentions to suggest otherwise.
I stand corrected, then, although that certainly isnt how the media is making him out to be. he should really play that up more...
As far as I can tell, Romney is trying to stay as far away as possible from his tenure as Massachusetts Governor because, back then, he supported liberal policies, like Romneycare and a ban on assault weapons, that do not appeal to the conservatives he's trying to court. Even Paul Ryan, the conservative's golden boy on economics and budget, wouldn't be able to fix the damage that would be caused by a strong link between Romney's policies now and Romney's policies as governor.
i started taking the test again, but i realized that this time i was deliberately considering which answers would get me closer to the green and socialist parties, so the results are pretty meaningless.
vader: i would personally vote for jill stein in your position. people are playing up the differences between obama and romney, but to be honest, they're almost the same guy. they both hate drugs, love god, don't mind warring with random-ass countries, and do whatever rich people tell them.
here's some fun trivia about paul ryan: his classmates voted him "biggest brown-noser".
vader: i would personally vote for jill stein in your position. people are playing up the differences between obama and romney, but to be honest, they're almost the same guy. they both hate drugs, love god, don't mind warring with random-ass countries, and do whatever rich people tell them.
here's some fun trivia about paul ryan: his classmates voted him "biggest brown-noser".
Which is why a third plan is necessary, something along the lines of Bill Clinton's strategy (you know, the only time since the LBJ administration that the national debt actually decreased).
You're right. A third plan is necessary. Sadly, though, with the candidates we currently have, a third plan does not seem to really exist. This leaves you a choice. The choice between having some frame of a plan that very well could take 30 years to do fully, or having absolutely no plan at all like what's going on now, and has been for many many years.
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