NU Viability Ranking

[Infernis]

It's also one of the defining forces of Sun Offense teams (which is worth noting since the weather lessens the team's issue with Jynx), since it's capable of setting up Sunny Day and sweeping through most teams with Charizard with relative ease (and can even work as a standalone sweeper), has Sleep Powder still, and outpaces everything barring Choice Scarf Primeape.

I know I've been talking about Ninjask lot lately, but Ninjask can beat Exeggutor even in the sun with X-Scissor. You don't even need full speed EVs or a Jolly nature, just use Protect on the first turn and proceed to gain a boost. If you think they'll switch out, just go for U-turn. It'll either OHKO Exeggutor anyway or let you steal momentum with a free switch.

On another subject, I've noticed Zangoose is a bit less effective these days. Swellow does the exact same thing while having access to U-turn. In addition, with the rise of Swellow, Zangoose actually has trouble beating it one-on-one. Primeape outruns it and can OHKO with Close Combat. I've been testing its viability for a team slot with Swellow, and in the end I've always found Swellow to be the more useful.

 

[Five Green]

I think we should send Rotom-Frost down to B-Rank. Don't get me wrong, Rotom-Frost is still pretty good, but ever since Snover has moved up to RU, it just isn't as good as it was before. Relying on a seventy percent accurate move or Hidden Power as a form of STAB isn't what I should see in an A-Rank Pokemon, and it competes with Electabuzz or Rotom-S as a Choice Scarfed Volt Switch user because of Rotom-S' more reliable (albeit still inaccurate) STAB, and Electabuzz's higher base tier (outspeeds the base 95s!). I also think that the Rotom forms became a lot less useful with Primeape becoming the staple scarfer of the tier. Pretty much all the drops really hinder Rotom-Frost's usefulness, Scolipede outspeeding and hitting it hard with STAB Megahorn or maybe Rock Slide or Superpower, Primeape's Close Combats, Munchlax's walling capabilities and Whirlwind (though Trick can cripple it), and even Jynx, who has Focus Blast and Lovely Kiss and is also a better Ice Type in general.

Also, what do you think of Exeguttor's placement in A-rank? Psychics and Grass Types are a lot less useful in this metagame because of the prevalence of Scolipede, U-turn Primeape, SleepTalking Munchlax, and Jynx - but is Exeguttor still worthy to be an A-Rank Pokemon?

About Fotom-Frost, I disagree on the first part. I used it a lot in the last round, and I can say that the 30% chance of a Blizzard missing was a risk worth taking. Seriously, destroying a Golurk or other ground Pokemon not named Piloswine trying to absorb a Volt Switch was a pleasure, and also brought to the table some cool resists that Rotom-Fan could only dream. c: But now I agree that it dropped on usefulness, mainly for the rise of Primeape, who outspeeds with a Scarf and OHKOes. Rotom-Fan has the upper hand now, because it can outspeed and KO Scolipede, I think.

Exeggutor should drop to B-Rank I guess, the drpodown haven't been kind to it :(

 

[Annoyer]

Alright, incoming changes.

• Sawk stays S rank because it still hits like a truck (unlike Primeape). It still gives a lot of teams a hard time due to its tremendous power and Primeape can't even think of breaking through walls as good as Sawk does due to a lower attack by 20 base points and no Mold Breaker.
• Zangoose drops down to A rank because it's just not as good as it once was, but is still a great mon in the meta.
• Gardevoir drops down to A rank because Jynx basically outclasses it in like every aspect.
• Linoone drops down to C rank because the definition of C rank honestly fits it perfectly and has a hard time to work without decent team support. It also hates the guts of Missy which is increasing in usage.
• Vigoroth drops down to C rank because it's just tooo hard pressed to either stall out the opponent or set up. Faces a lot of competition from better Normal-types as well.
• Musharna drops down to A rank because it can't really counter the new Fighting-type Primeape due to U-turn, has trouble with Spikes, and Jynx + Scoli can destroy it as well.
• Gurdurr drops down to B rank because it does pretty terribly in this metagame. (I thought it was already B or C rank my bad otherwise I would have done this a lot earlier.)
• Swellow up to A rank because it's been always top B rank, but with the drops, it got a lot better due to the insane speed tier rising of the meta. It also is pretty good due to the rise of Misdreavus, and with a great Spikes user in Scolipede, Swellow can shred through teams easily.
• Pelipper up to C rank because it's a great check to mons such as Primeape, Scolipede, Samurott, and Ludicolo while also maintaining momentum with U-turn and recovering with Roost unlike unreliable RestTalk Mantine.
• Serperior stays at B rank because although it becomes really great after some boosts, it has a hard time getting those boosts in this fast paced metagame. Lackluster stats other than speed hold it back a lot. (Because this one is a bit iffy, I'd like more discussion on this though.)
• Alomomola stays at A rank because it still walls a large amount of the tier without giving a fuck. Takes on Psyshock Jynx decently well too I guess...
• Exeggutor drops down to B rank. This was a really hard decision for me to make because this is like my favorite pokemon ever in NU, but it has a much harder time in this meta due to Jynx destroying it as well as outclassing it for the most part as a wallbreaker, Primeape U-turn crippling it greatly, and Scolipede destroying it with Megahorn. Because of all of that, eggy is dropping. ;_;
• Rotom-Frost stays in A rank due to its wonderful typing and able to revenge kill a lot of stuff. Jynx and Primeape dropping down due give it some competition, but don't directly outclass or beat him.
• Jynx up to S rank because it is just quite frankly amazing. It is able to take on most Special Water-types that are really hard for offensive teams to switch into (and defensive teams =/). Great STABs, Lovely Kiss, and great stats make it an amazing offensive pokemon able to break through many teams.
• Scolipede up to S rank because it is a great offensive Spiker and sweeper with SD or even SubSDSalac which allows it to surprise teams and get a great late-game sweep. It also checks many offensive threats due to its good typing and speed as well.
• Primeape up to S rank because it is such an excellent scarfer allowing it to revenge kill stuff such as Tauros while also outspeeding other scarfers such as Rotom-S. U-turn is amazing which allows it keep momentum and to "beat" Musharna (works great with Spikes too). EDIT: Because I thought Primeape was already nommed for S rank, I just made this change. It was just mentioned a million times and not nominated for any rank so I'll let discussion continue on Primeape. (IM NOT A TOTAL DICTATOR :])

I think that's it - maybe I missed some stuff. Anyways, here are mons that still need some more discussion:

• Braviary
• Munchlax
• NOW PRIMEAPE

 

[Nozzle]

Braviary should stay S rank. Its wallbreaking power is still amazing and the only thing that is going to change is that Band and SubBU sets will fall and Scarf sets will rise in usage.

I haven't found Munchlax much of a threat and i haven't used it myself but i have the feeling that it's just a worse Lickilicky with more reliable phazing, worse recovery, thick fat, no lefties and being very frail on the physical spectrum for a wall. Idk really but feels like D or maybe C to me.

Sorry that I keep falling back to Leavanny but it's just too good for E rank. Having above average speed, great power and great STAB coverage. Also makes an excellent offensive core together with Scolipede and almost doesn't give a shit about the premier walls. You use it to hit weakened stuff early game and attempt to sweep late game with SD. You only need hazards, dead faster opponents and dead weezing and misdreavus (and random lairons, probopasses and bastiodons who shouldnt even be used in the new meta. Also poisons.) which is actually not that hard to accomplish although it sounds hard. I really feel it should be C rank.

PRIMEAPE FOR S RANK FUCK YES. *calms down* Primeape is just amazing and is so verstatile. Item? Band, Scarf , LO, Expert belt, he can run all of them exceptionally well. Probably its greatest asset is that until you know what item it's running you don't know how to safely counter it. I've had great succes with expert belt ape with encore and u-turn which grabs momentum like yo momma. Totally agree with S rank.

 

[Leafshield]

Braviary, in my opinion, is still a powerful Pokemon in the meta... just not with its current, more popular sets. SubBU and Band are both easily beaten by the new drops, but I think Scarf has the potential to be very good in this meta. I say let it go to A Rank, but maybe after some more testing with the less common Scarf set it could attempt to rise up.

Munchlax is a peculiar drop, and I haven't seen it get much usage. I have, however, used a bulky Band set with it in an attempt to see if it can distinguish itself from other Specially Defensive Normal- Types, but I see no reason to use it over Lickilicky. I say let it go down to D Rank. It's pretty much outclassed as a wall, other than he fact that it phazes better, but I think it may have some niche as a bulky Pursuit trapper or sorts maybe (though in not holding my breath.)

Primeape is a fucking monster. It's unpredictability, versatility, power and speed are amazing, making it very hard to counter and a great asset to any team. I nominate Primape for S Rank.

 

[MMF]

fgt

 

[Hot N Cold]

Munchlax deserved B-Rank imo

Munchlax isnt at all outclassed by Lickilicky, when Munchlax is a better dedicated SpD Wall higher HP and Special Defense because Eviolite, good status absorber because Rest and Sleep Talk that help on PP stall wars, better phazer (Dtail can miss / dont break Substitutes) and Thick Fat that add some interesting resistances, while Lickilicky should lose against heavy special hitters such Charizard Sunny Day or Specs Glaceon, Munchlax defeat this mons pretty well or one of the biggest special threats of this meta, mono attacker Jynx w/ NP or CM, probably you have the big counter on the meta of this mon (look out of Psychock / Focus Blast).

The list of special mons that beat Munchlax is very large: Samurott, Rotom formes, Seismitoad, Gardevoir, Musharna, Kadabra, Haunter, Gorebyss, Regice, Rapidash, Swanna, Butterfree, Altaria, Serperior, Eelecktross, etc
Must be careful with some mons such Taunt Samurott, Acid Spray Eelecktross, Psyshock Gardevoir and Kadabra.

Probably the biggest problem of Munchlax w/ the special attacker are the Psyshock users and focus blast which miss 1 of each 3 times, and just with only a special wall you are fixed a lot of special mons on the meta.

Some damage calcs:

252 SpA Choice Specs Charizard Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 186-220 (39.24 - 46.41%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Gardevoir Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 177-211 (37.34 - 44.51%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

+2 252 SpA Life Orb Gorebyss Surf vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 199-234 (41.98 - 49.36%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Just in overall Munchlax can shine on balance or stall teams w/ the right support: Heal Bell / Aroma, Spikes or Wish (nowadays in every team defensive)

 

[Farobi]

Among all of the three initial drops, Primeape was my favorite, due to its great offensive typing as well as its access to U-turn. It also packs great coverage moves like Ice Punch, Stone Edge / Rock Slide, as well as Punishment or Beat Up to punish some incoming Ghost (or Psychic predicting a CC) Type thinking they would take just a little chunk of HP from U-Turn or CC. Primeape also has amazing moves that help it support itself such as Taunt, Encore, Screech, and even Bulk Up if you want to try that out. Primeape also has great speed in NU standards, outspeeding the usual scarfers, such as Rotom Formes and Sawk, of the previous metagame; though good players now look for other scarfers that can outspeed Primeape, knowing how much of a dominant force it is. Speaking of Sawk, both of these Pokemon do not directly outclass each other because Primeape is more of a scout and Sawk is more of a wallbreaker, though Sawk's Choice Scarf set is now outclassed by Primeape's. Primeape does it job well nonetheless, and is definitely an S-Rank Pokemon.

 

[Aasgier]

I indeed favour Primeape for S-rank. Frailty holds it back but it is faster than Zangoose and Sawk (which are both quite frail as well). But Primeape is pretty damn good and hard to counter, even moreso once its Scarf set becomes less common and other Primeape sets are going to be used.

A Taunt lead set, Expert Belt or Black Belt sets (which fake Choice sets surprisingly well), and scouting, it are all things Primeape can do just as good or better than Sawk.

 

[ryan]

I agree with Primeape for S-Rank for reasons that have already been stated. It's just such a good scout (probably the best in NU atm) with a Choice Scarf. With access to awesome support moves such as Taunt and Encore, it doesn't even have to run a Choice set to function. These qualities all make it incredibly difficult to wall. Primeape causes switches, and with hazards support, can cause massive damage to teams just by forcing switches.

While I haven't played with Munchlax (or really seen much out of it so far), I feel like it definitely deserved at least B-Rank or C-Rank. It can run the classic set that Snorlax is often found running in UU for at least moderate success. The presence of Munchlax alone may cause many Psychic-types in the tier to run Psyshock over Psychic. It is undoubtedly a far better phazer than Lickilicky and a far better Special Wall at that. With max investment and Eviolite, it attains 447 HP and 442 SpD. Lickilicky, on the other hand, has 424 HP and 317 SpD with max investment. Of course, Lickilicky still passes huge Wishes unlike Munchlax, but overall, its stats are far less impressive.

As for Braviary, I think it deserves to move to A-Rank. Like many of the other previous S-Rank threats, it just poses much less of a threat in the new meta. Its Choice Band set is outclassed by Sawk who has an arguably better STAB than Normal/Flying, slightly higher Attack, and better Speed. Its Choice Scarf set is far too slow for this new meta (and frankly, it was too slow in Stage 8 as well in my opinion), and it should not be used. Primeape, Jynx, Rotom-S, and Rotom-F all outclass it. Primeape can scout with U-Turn and has better Speed and no SR weakness. Jynx, Rotom-S, and Rotom-F are all faster and have access to Trick. The only redeeming quality of Braviary, to me, is its Sub-BU set that can still tear defensive teams apart and set up on quite a few different threats due to its handy resistances. It's worth keeping it in A-Rank imho.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

I think sawsbuck should be B, the new meta is very unkind to him, his speed now touches the key speed of the tier instead of outseeding it. Weezing and misdreavus are more popular than they used to be and sawsbuck doesn't take them on very well (although some misdreavus can't touch him, he's still getting burnt). Sawsbuck also fears scolipede which is just eveyrwhere.

Weezing all the way up to A, weezing walls a great portion of the tier's physical attackers missing out only on tauros, rampardos, status sweepers and (the now less common) mold breker sawk (and stuff no one uses like mb cb pinsir). He isn't a free switch in to jynx thanks to fire blast and can take on other defensive mons like vileplume thanks to his toxic immunity and good defensive typing. While he might not spinblock like misdreavus, Weezing has a huge advantage in leftovers/black sludge over eviolite which strongly increases it's durability. I've been using weezing on nearly all my teams lately and he's really one of the 3 best walls of the current meta along with alomomola and misdreavus, I really believe he belongs in the same tier.

Roselia to B. This thing hasn't been placed yet, it might have been A material in the last meta, but it's now much harder to place in a team with jynx running around ohko'ing it with 2 moves very few mons can take. It also faces great competition from scolipede as a spike setter.

Lickilicky to B. Still a good special wall, but it's so easy to set up spikes on and so many teams have spikes now. The sub SD set is just very easy to revenge kill and not that easy to set up in this offensive meta.

 

[Hot N Cold]

I agree with Braviary for A-Rank.

Such a Scarf mon is slower than the rest of common scarfers, weak to SR, a lot of priority and just mons that can wall this set pretty well - Golem, Eelecktross, Weezing, Alomomola etc -
The other variants like SubBU and CB are a bit slower for this new meta, and outclassed by new wallbreaker like SD Scolipede or Jynx. Bulk Up is hard to setupp on the new meta, and just wasnt the same mon when Braviary was suspect "oh, the Bulky braviary that rapes a lot of balance or defensive teams" also the people more careful with this threat after the suspect test and always being more dangerous on the paper.

Weezing for B-rank at least imo

I'm not sure if is A-Rank material, when Pain Split is unreliable, needs Haze for things like SubSalac BP Scolipede or BU Braviary, lost against another punch of mons: Sawk EQ, Pinsir EQ MB, Zangoose, physical sweepers with lum berry work pretty well against Weezing or Misdreavus that this work good on this meta also like a secondary check of Jynx.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

I agree with Braviary for A-Rank.

Such a Scarf mon is slower than the rest of common scarfers, weak to SR, a lot of priority and just mons that can wall this set pretty well - Golem, Eelecktross, Weezing, Alomomola etc -
The other variants like SubBU and CB are a bit slower for this new meta, and outclassed by new wallbreaker like SD Scolipede or Jynx. Bulk Up is hard to setupp on the new meta, and just wasnt the same mon when Braviary was suspect "oh, the Bulky braviary that rapes a lot of balance or defensive teams" also the people more careful with this threat after the suspect test and always being more dangerous on the paper.

Weezing for B-rank at least imo

I'm not sure if is A-Rank material, when Pain Split is unreliable, needs Haze for things like SubSalac BP Scolipede or BU Braviary, lost against another punch of mons: Sawk EQ, Pinsir EQ MB, Zangoose, physical sweepers with lum berry work pretty well against Weezing or Misdreavus that this work good on this meta also like a secondary check of Jynx.

As I said, mb pinsir is unnexistant. Lum berry physical attakers are rather unnexistant too (samurott maybe ? been ages since I've seen a lum SD set). SubSalac BP Scolipede does have a chance to pass a SD but it has to play around to not get the switch-in burnt since weezing easily breaks it's sub. Also, misdreavus is not that much of a secondary check to jynx since it won't ohko even after SR, Jynx on the other side will 2hko standard missy and survive after LO recoil if no rocks were up, Jynx is also faster and will simply put it to sleep. In fact, I find weezing to have very few flaws next to misdreavus. It might not take tauros, but missy doesn't take kanga. It doesn't spinblock and walls slightly less mons, but it's more durable and immune to toxic. It's also not weak to pursuit, deals huge damage to scolipede and cripples most incoming mons rather hard.

 

[Dell]

Weezing still faces a lot of competition with Misdreavus, who isn't weak to Psychic, can wall Choice Band Sawk and physical Normal-types better, can deal more damage to physical attackers, setup sweepers, and Psychic types thanks to Foul Play, has access to Taunt to shut down walls and Stealth Rock users, and is faster, so I would agree that it's B-rank material.

 

[Infernis]

Weezing and Misdreavus are damn good walls, but I'd put forward that their rise makes Swellow all the more useful. Swellow is immune to will-o-wisp from both of them, and can 2HKO the former with Facade and the latter with Brave Bird.

 

[Hot N Cold]

I wanna nominate Zebstrika for high B-Rank, i dont understand why this mon is on C-Rank and more on this meta, actually Zebstrika is the most fast scarfer and viable on NU meta, beat 2 new threats (dont need the scarf for this!): Jynx and Scolipede and outrun Primeape Scarf which is everywhere, also with a Ebelt or Life Orb is a good lure though.

 

[ryan]

I wanna nominate Zebstrika for high B-Rank, i dont understand why this mon is on C-Rank and more on this meta, actually Zebstrika is the most fast scarfer and viable on NU meta, beat 2 new threats (dont need the scarf for this!): Jynx and Scolipede and outrun Primeape Scarf which is everywhere, also with a Ebelt or Life Orb is a good lure though.

For the same reasons listed here, Rapidash may be a good fit in A-Rank. It's something I'll test in a bit and get back to you. I'm just wondering if anyone has used it recently and can throw in some feedback. I feel like it would be wonderful in this metagame.

Also, supporting Hot N Cold bc smart post is smart.

 

[dcae]

I wanna nominate Zebstrika for high B-Rank, i dont understand why this mon is on C-Rank and more on this meta, actually Zebstrika is the most fast scarfer and viable on NU meta, beat 2 new threats (dont need the scarf for this!): Jynx and Scolipede and outrun Primeape Scarf which is everywhere, also with a Ebelt or Life Orb is a good lure though.

I back this up. Having used Zebstrika on several of my teams with several different sets, I can safely say it is one of the better pokemon in the current meta, thanks to its lightning (hah) speed and momentum grabbing abilities.

 

[Infernis]

I'll attest to that. I just built a team yesterday that centered around a Scarf Zebstrika/Ninjask VoltTurn strategy, and many matches ended with Scarf Zebstrika simply outrunning everything and KOing with one move or another. Basically the purpose of the rest of the team was to set up hazards and take out anything that would stop a clean sweep. It hits pretty hard for something that damn fast.

 

[Nozzle]

Sorry that I keep falling back to Leavanny but it's just too good for E rank. Having above average speed, great power and great STAB coverage. Also makes an excellent offensive core together with Scolipede and almost doesn't give a shit about the premier walls. You use it to hit weakened stuff early game and attempt to sweep late game with SD. You only need hazards, dead faster opponents and dead weezing and misdreavus (and random lairons, probopasses and bastiodons who shouldnt even be used in the new meta. Also poisons.) which is actually not that hard to accomplish although it sounds hard. I really feel it should be C rank.

This part seemed to get ignored so I'm throwing this out there again.

 

[Aasgier]

In that post, you mentioned a LOT that needs to be removed. A LOT!
...and that is exactly the problem of Leavanny.

Worse, these things you mentioned are common.

Besides, why use Leavanny if you have Scolipede? Leavanny had already trouble distinguishing itself with only Pinsir, Sawsbuck and Leafeon to compete with. And now Scolipede dropped, rendering them all useless (bar on Sun Teams)

You mention them both on the same team, but then you stack weaknesses you can't really afford to stack, with Swellow being extremely common at this point.

Also, Leavanny is no longer fast enough for the metagame, as Base 95 is the new standard, and Leavanny just falls short of that with Base 92.

Stop bringing it up for as long as Scolipede is NU. I don't like to say it, but Leavanny is worthless at this point.

 

[skylight]

Since you mentioned sun,

Sun teams in particular can be effective in the metagame now, as many of its weapons being able to leave a huge dent on the faster metagame, plus just Charizard alone is able to take out Scolipede, Jynx and Primeape. Leavanny can have a small niche on sun teams with the (small) extra power over Sawsbuck and Leafeon plus STAB in X-Scissor, which the other two lack.

However, despite that, while it can take CC from Primeape, so can Leafeon, and it can 2HKO Munchlax possibly, but Sawsbuck can definitely OHKO it. Also, Sawsbuck can do more damage to Weezing than Leavanny, although both can still not to much against it unless it has prior damage. With that in mind, it was probably better fit in stage 8, where Psychic-types dominated and the metagame was a lot slower to cater to its speed. So yeah, I think it's fine as it is in E in this metagame as for the most part the other two Chlorophyll sweepers have a better chance of making an impact on the metagame.

 

[Aasgier]

Leavanny can do more damage to Haunter and Drifblim though with access to Shadow Claw, and unlike Sawsbuck, it can get past Alomomola without being crippled.
Note that Leavanny can also take a CC from Sawk, something Leafeon can't.

It is also worth a mention that Leafeon has the hardest hitting Grass STAB from the three, while Sawsbuck's Grass STAB is absolutely inferior in terms of power.

Leavanny and Charizard stack a massive Rock Weakness, you can't really afford them on the same team. The fact that Scoli has Rock Slide access does not make things easier.

Last but not least, Sawsbuck has access to Megahorn, which hits about as hard as Leavanny's X-Scissor (the only power difference is coming from the fact that Leavanny has 103 Base Atk while Sawsbuck has Base 100). X-Scissor is more reliable though, as Megahorn has a tendency to miss at infuriating moments.

There is a lot that can be written about this trio as they are comparable, but I feel they all became a lot weaker in the new meta. Not only Leavanny; Sawsbuck and Leafeon as well.

 

[Anty]

I also think that prime ape should be S-Rank, it can out speed most scafers and threaten them out and it can also run bulk up or even the under rated expert belt set.

I would also like to nominate Wormadam-T for C-Rank. Wormadam-T (steel) is such a good wall, I was shocked to not see it listed. It can set up stealth rocks, it's immune to toxic and paralisys strengthens its stab gyro ball. It can even live non-stab fire moves and toxic stall them. You can also run signal beam, base 69 is great for a wall.

 

[Punchshroom]

I also think that prime ape should be S-Rank, it can out speed most scafers and threaten them out and it can also run bulk up or even the under rated expert belt set.

I would also like to nominate Wormadam-T for C-Rank. Wormadam-T (steel) is such a good wall, I was shocked to not see it listed. It can set up stealth rocks, it's immune to toxic and paralisys strengthens its stab gyro ball. It can even live non-stab fire moves and toxic stall them. You can also run signal beam, base 69 is great for a wall.

...You can't be serious, Alomomola's base 75 Attack stat and Munchlax's 85 base Attack are considered setup material, and you consider base 69 great for a wall? Keep in mind that isn't too far off from Bastiodon's 52 base Attack and Wartortle's 65 base SpAtk, the former which can make up with stronger STAB in Stone Edge or w/e (not that you'd try).

Really, I could redirect you to this post and call it a day, but this time there's even more to talk about. Wormadam-T's greatest niche in the day was to resist Psychic-type attacks while shrugging off Focus Blasts. This time however, the metagame took a more offensive step up, which is too much for Trashmadam and her lack of recovery. She can still take on Jynx, provided she doesn't get Lovely Kissed, Tricked or setup on by almost every other threat in the tier that isn't weak to Steel or Bug (don't even try to run both STABs, you'll be deadweight without like 3 support moves). The dwindling of Psychics and Grasses gave Trashmadam that much less to do, as her defensive typing doesn't resist common attack types such as Ground, Flying, Rock, Fighting, Electric, and arguably Water. Almost every offensive and defensive threat today can overcome Wormadam-T, sometimes without even trying. Her Fire weakness is much more problematic now since Fire attacks are getting pretty popular. Trashmadam doesn't quite cut it in today's metagame, the only threat I can think of that she actually counters rather than wall is Jynx; she can't fight back very effectively against any other threat due to lack of recovery and loses in most one-on-one situations (that or free Spikes). No, this time I'm not even going for D-Rank for Wormadam-T, she is utter trash this time round. She sets up Rocks like any other, walls (few) stuff without actually doing shit back and cannot beat another afterward (like she'll survive against the first), and...that's it. E-Rank from me.