Mario Kart Mafia (NOC) END: VILLAGE WINS

@barty the beetle you are still viewing the thread TELL US YOUR FUCKING ROLE NOW.
This day has been barty barty barty barty barty. You claimed a power role, you said you were a vanillager who will later become a power role and now "If anyone wants to take over a vanilla villager" if you are saying that you are just a vanillager permanently and you claimed a power role to try and be alive longer just SAY THAT, AND PUT US OUT OF OUR MISERY.
 
votecount 1.5

barty the beetle: (5) Marquis, Blackhawk11, Celever, Woodchuck, Houndoomsday, Celever, Metal Sonic, Celever L-2
Celever: (2) Spiffy, Spiffy, FireMage
FireMage: (1) barty the beetle, Aura Guardian, Celever, Jalmont
Jalmont: (1) Marquis, Spiffy, Celever, barty the beetle, Metal Sonic, Celever
Aura Guardian: (1) Marquis, Solar Vapor, Blackhawk11, Spiffy
Solar Vapor: (1) Houndoomsday, Jalmont, Aura Guardian
No Lynch: (0) FireMage
Blackhawk11: (0) barty the beetle, Celever
Woodchuck: (0) Houndoomsday, Spiffy
Metal Sonic: (0) Woodchuck, Spiffy, Houndoomsday
Spiffy: (0) Celever, Celever
Marquis: (0) Jalmont, Solar Vapor, Houndoomsday

Not Voting: Aura Guardian, Blackhawk11
 
ok I am getting tired of summaries, so usually I am enough in the game then here is another small part

152: Woodchuck says Celever is trying to hard letting Spiffy look like scum.

153: Celever says he didn’t bandwagon Spiffy (?)

154: Spiffy goes on with his usual talk with Celever, which I’m sure you all know

155: Celever says he voted Blackhawk for explanation about his connection with Jalmont

156: Fire Mage says that Celever can be everything basically :/

157: Aura Guardian thinks Celever is suspicious and gives a scumread

158: Solar Vapor accuses Celever of avoiding bad scumreads on him.

159: Spiffy makes a decently good post, not really, mostly giving his opinions, but not too big

160: Aura Guardian says he must get scumreads done


I didn't find much not said, but I found some interesting thing

What if Metal Sonic is mafia and knows his no #1 scumhunter usually brings up much votes, so he changes method not to get too suspicious, of course it would be mixed with a possible threat from Eagle4, anyway I like to hear all of yours reads of Metal Sonic, but currently FoS Metal Sonic srry if I'm wrong, but for me he seems suspicious
 
also, most of his posts weren't too handy for the town (correct me if I'm wrong please)

I don't think he should be lynched, as there are more suspicious people, but I wanted to note this, as most others already have been said :)
 
Snaquaza, "FoS" doesn't do anything in this game. Only votes. Unless you're just trying to say that Metal Sonic is suspicious, but there are less hokey ways of doing it.
 
@Jalmont: Very very suspicious. Most of his posts were not pro-town at all.
Jalmont said:
unfortunately user: firemage is setting off alarm bells. he claims he is willing to vote 2-3 players, and then claims he needs more evidence to actually vote someone.

also: this sentence: "I do think celever is pointing out the blame (sometimes unecessarily) a lot to other users and drawing a lot of attention away from others and pushing them towards Metal Sonic, Jalmont and Barty" doesn't make sense and is something that appears to make it look as if firemage is saying some intelligent and useful to the village when in reality it actually doesn't mean anything
vote fire mage

busy this weekend so don't expect any huge fireworks for yo
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I dont understand what you mean by that. It makes perfect sense, a mafia would try to attract attention from his fellow bros and shift the attention to someone innocent. jalmont is trying to defend celever, probably an innocent townie, to possibly gain his trust.
Probability: Slight chance
@barty the beetle: Most likely mafia, but I cant confirm yet. Tried to accuse houndoomsday and jalmont because he found their posts "odd". Also made really useless posts that didn't help the town at all
Probablity: Very high
Barty the beetle votes for jalmont, either he's bussing him (unlikely), one of them is.mafia (good chance), or none of them is mafia (very very unlikely)
I will do my reads on everyone else later, meanwhile I will unvote and vote Barty the beetle, while I will keep my eye on jalmont. Also this ismy first game so forgive me for any mistakes I make.
 
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First of all wellcome to the game @cxinlee if you could do some scum reads on all players that would be excellent, and the same goes for you @Snaquaza .
Honestly I don't understand that and I think you are over-thinking things, otherwise I didn't see it Q.Q. Unvote Barty because I don't like to see someone at L-1 right now, although honestly I don't know with him. Honestly I wouldn't mind a hammer on him but I don't know what the experienced players think of this. I mean activity in this game has died down drastically, we could do with a kill and a night to pick things up again but I don't know if that is a good idea or no??
Honestly I do find it strange that barty would cast Houndoomsday and jalmont suspicion because their posts are "odd" particularly Houndoomsday who had close to no suspicion on him. I would say that he could have been trying to differentiate himself from Jalmont seeing a kill on him coming (if they were both scum) and maybe being able to bring Houndoomsday down sooner rather than later Houndoomsday being town, or it could just as easily be vice versa. I say that Barty = scum + Jalmont = scum = Houndoomsday = clean or Barty = scum + jalmont = clean = houndoomsday = scum.
 
don't try to avoid the question, please answer it, it is minor, but I still want to have a good answer

@Celever, my scumreads coming up, but it might take some time to give a scumread on everyone 0.0
 
just want to say that if he's telling the truth (and i am now very confident that he is), barty did tell us his role, and everything about him that he can.
role name: not allowed
flavor: not allowed
night action: vanilla/none
third paragraph: not allowed due to "special rule"
alignment: village

Sooooo let's quit asking him questions. Perhaps if he gets a sub the sub can explain what is going on in better terms.

@cxinlee 1) you can't edit posts. 2) you were pretty lucky that i already unvoted barty before you voted for him. we are not trying to end the day just yet.

@Celever is not against a barty lynch, but unvoted him. I've consistently said that he's been playing in a very similar manner to what he did in RNG NOC, and I stand by that up until this point. In RNG NOC, celever tunneled a player who he found suspicious, actively advocating a lynch on (iirc) all three of the first village lynches. In this case, he's tunneled barty all the way up until L-1, but now won't (help) pull the trigger. I can think of two explanations: 1) he's learned a little bit about tunneling people without letting them give a decent defense. 2) He's mafia and is trying to distance himself from the lynch, while still advocating it. I'm leaning toward the latter enough to put my vote on him. Vote Celever

@Houndoomsday has been echoing celever's statements, recently, but previously (pp 3-4 on 50 posts/page) the two got into a bit of a disagreement. I'm thinking that if the two were mafia buddies, they wouldn't both try to pressure barty, instead they'd let one pressure while the other two hang back. I have a feeling that only one of these two is mafia, and right now, as I said above, I'm leaning towards Celever, but it wouldn't take too much convincing to make me swing the other way.
 
@Celever still never answered all of my questions when I specifically asked him to in post #159. His excuse is that he is on holiday and doesn't have time, but he continues making posts while completely ignoring me. He is frustrated about barty the beetle not avoiding answering questions when he is doing the exact same thing.

Also if Celever wasn't being ridiculous I would be voting for @Jalmont right now because n0w that he isn't under fire he just isn't posting, which is also scummy. (He did say he was busy this weekend but I saw him lurking the thread a few times so still no excuse)

Will post more about the new sub and other affairs when I have more time.
 
Celever you don't make any sense. You keep making random assumptions of mafia connections. You went from Jalmont+Blackhawk11 to Jalmont+Barty mafia duo. I mean holy shit. What does this do to help us any bit especially without any clear reasoning behind it.

@Snaquaza and @Acklow can you post your scumreads?
 
Blackhawk11 said:
just want to say that if he's telling the truth (and i am now very confident that he is), barty did tell us his role, and everything about him that he can.
role name: not allowed
flavor: not allowed
night action: vanilla/none
third paragraph: not allowed due to "special rule"
alignment: village

Sooooo let's quit asking him questions. Perhaps if he gets a sub the sub can explain what is going on in better terms.

@cxinlee 1) you can't edit posts. 2) you were pretty lucky that i already unvoted barty before you voted for him. we are not trying to end the day just yet.

@Celever is not against a barty lynch, but unvoted him. I've consistently said that he's been playing in a very similar manner to what he did in RNG NOC, and I stand by that up until this point. In RNG NOC, celever tunneled a player who he found suspicious, actively advocating a lynch on (iirc) all three of the first village lynches. In this case, he's tunneled barty all the way up until L-1, but now won't (help) pull the trigger. I can think of two explanations: 1) he's learned a little bit about tunneling people without letting them give a decent defense. 2) He's mafia and is trying to distance himself from the lynch, while still advocating it. I'm leaning toward the latter enough to put my vote on him. Vote Celever

@Houndoomsday has been echoing celever's statements, recently, but previously (pp 3-4 on 50 posts/page) the two got into a bit of a disagreement. I'm thinking that if the two were mafia buddies, they wouldn't both try to pressure barty, instead they'd let one pressure while the other two hang back. I have a feeling that only one of these two is mafia, and right now, as I said above, I'm leaning towards Celever, but it wouldn't take too much convincing to make me swing the other way.
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As i said before if Houndoomsday were to end up scum barty probably won't and likewise, unless Jalmont turns out clean.

As for your accusations (rood :() I simply learned that killing someone this quickly will just put my head on the chopping block (I still think I should have been lynched pretty quickly after my third mislynch in a row in the RNG NOC but oh well xD) which would immediately put the village 2 down on the mafia if I wouldn't be able to put forth a reasonable defense (which I apparently have failed at so far.....). I just don't want to put the village in such a position in this game. IDK in my other one it was a beginner game so maybe it didn't matter so much :P. If you guys want a hammer then I'll be happy to do it is what I meant by "not against" but after everybody said that whoever hammers Barty will get lynched I didn't want to.

@Solar Vapor I have said it before and I'll say it again, I'm quick to decisions and indecisive, it's just how I am :p
 
i still dont understand how jalmont ties into all of this? i can get me being clean because barty is scum or vice versa (though it has quite a few holes in the logic- being village i could be mislynching and not in a malicious way, or even though im not mafia, for the sake of argument i could be bussing if i were mafia). while a pretty bad/noob assumption, there is definitely a possibility, but i dont really remember interacting much with jalmont...
 
Houndoomsday said:
i still dont understand how jalmont ties into all of this? i can get me being clean because barty is scum or vice versa (though it has quite a few holes in the logic- being village i could be mislynching and not in a malicious way, or even though im not mafia, for the sake of argument i could be bussing if i were mafia). while a pretty bad/noob assumption, there is definitely a possibility, but i dont really remember interacting much with jalmont...
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No it was Barty who linked you and Jalmont, you didn't do much with Jalmont you're right.
Although it is Monday so I would like to see Jalmont post.
 
Solar Vapor said:
@Snaquaza and @Acklow can you post your scumreads?
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yar, that'll happen once I can get acclimated and caught up on this thread.

As for my role, I am vanilla, which tbh, is all I can go by. There honestly is no sucker claim than vanilla, but at the same time vanilla roles are arguably the most significant in any mafia...

Also hi Celever! :)
 
Acklow said:
yar, that'll happen once I can get acclimated and caught up on this thread.

As for my role, I am vanilla, which tbh, is all I can go by. There honestly is no sucker claim than vanilla, but at the same time vanilla roles are arguably the most significant in any mafia...

Also hi Celever! :)
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i would like you to attempt to explain barty's behavior in addition to your scumreads, why did he act so irrationally?
 
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