all megablaze gets is loss of LO recoil, the extra speed doesn't mean anything in ubers. Overall it really isn't worth the megastone whatsoever.
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Other Viable Megas
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I think you guys don't understand just how powerful Huge Power is. Just in case you didn't know, it doesn't double the base stat, it double the actual stat - Azumaril's paltry base 50 attack translates to a maximum of 436 attack. Mega Medicham has 100 Speed, which is meh, but a benchmark nonetheless. Assuming jolly nature, it reaches 598 attack, far higher than anything from the likes of Mega Blaziken or Mega Lucario. I really think this guy is underrated. I've already brought up the monster that is Mega Mawile twice, but nobody seems to think it's a threat.
On a side note, think we could see a mixed Mega Mewtwo X/Y, or even Mega Lucario/Blaziken?
On a side note, think we could see a mixed Mega Mewtwo X/Y, or even Mega Lucario/Blaziken?
thedotwalks I've been saying that Megawile and especially Megacham are going to be "Super" since the beginning.
Apparently Mega Houndoom has 140 SpA and 115 speed, all with Solar Power. No idea how that's gonna turn out.
Apparently Mega Houndoom has 140 SpA and 115 speed, all with Solar Power. No idea how that's gonna turn out.
Just curious what people in this thread are theorycrafting with Mega Lucario? Obviously he is a big hit here.
In the Lucario thread, Soul Fly put up this moveset:
Seems pretty solid, however, I'm just wondering what other people are playing around with as well.
In the Lucario thread, Soul Fly put up this moveset:
Seems pretty solid, however, I'm just wondering what other people are playing around with as well.
There's gonna be a mega on almost every team from what I can see.A lot of them have more potential then mega ken lol
I never said there wouldn't be. All I am saying is that Mega Blaziken is a straight upgrade from LO Blaziken, provided there are no other mega's on your team. That is ALL I am saying.
Reikai Mega Lucario is extremely good. Great Attack and Speed with an amazing ability that boosts most of its moveset. There's no way it's getting ignored.
Just wondering, why not run EQ over crunch? You can calmly kill aegislash and poison pokemons with EQ
crunch still kills aegislash and fighting/dark has better coverage than fighting/ground
assuming they don't predict the crunch and opt to kingshields instead.
poison types ?
how many viable OU poison types where before X/Y ?
only 3, 2 of them weather depended considering that weather is Nerfed this gen and the poison as a type remains one of the worst types in the game , there is absolutely no need to run earthq over crunch.
is king's shield really going to be common on aegislash though? it's got a lot of options such as sd and autotomize, it doesn't seem easy imo to put it somewhere
Shield Forme is a downright necessity for anything but complete hit-and-run Aegislash.
I think mega-mawile will be a nice addition for offensive teams, it immediately threatens a lot of stuff out, it can baton pass to scout answers to it, and it can hit hard if the checks to it are weak. It also can act as a pivot, with great defenses and defensive typing, even though its method of scouting doesn't do damage, and you'd be passing stuff like lando-t intimidate.
It's certainly an interesting Mega, and probably the only one with some degree of cuteness. :P Still, while it might have a niche because of its typing, viable Defense and Special Defense as well as Intimidate, 50 HP certainly isn't great and it'll probably be vulnerable to Fire Blast and Flamethrower revenge killing with that Speed. Intimidate also gives way to Huge Power after the evolution, so the Baton Pass scouting won't as well after the first time. I think most people will run Aegislash or some other Steel-type over it (although Aegislash isn't awfully similar, just an example), and put something else in the Mega space.
Correct me if I'm wrong, though, I'm not all that experienced in competitive battling.
Mega Ken, as others already mentioned, isn't bad, it's just not something you need. You can still run Ken if you wish. E.g. For me, it doesn't really have a use, as I used to play Focus Sash+Bulk Up more often than LO. Plus, with so many Megas out there, it's really not the best choice. Mega Lucario is downright great, and so are Gengar and Mawile. Especially Mawile (since others have already brought up the case) is a huge upgrade from its previous forme. And we have seen a few other tanks with low HP, it's not something new. The great typing and defenses more than make up for it.
It's a huge upgrade from its previous form, but its previous form, statistics-wise at least, was more like a mid-stage evolution that couldn't use Eviolite, and like other Megas, it doesn't have access to Leftovers (although Pain Split could be nice?). It has nice moves in Taunt, Super Fang, Baton Pass, Stealth Rock etc., but it was (and is) too slow to get the most out of some of them. I'm not saying it's bad at all, it just seems like there are a lot of other things to consider for the Mega slot that might give it too much competition to see a lot of use.
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Make Hitmonchan the father and you have Access to all 3 elemental punches and Bullet Punch.
also Stab Power-Up punch could still do a shit load of damage and give you the +1
Do people enjoy being walled by Flying mons and levitating psychics that much? I'd rather play mind games with ONE pkmn.
Why isn't mega gyarados being discussed at all? I'm still quite the beginner and don't know that mucg but he seems really good to me. When he switches in with new intimidate, the enemy will get -2 attack, that with taunt makes it easy for mega to set up dragon dance. Dragon dance mega boosted gyarados is no joke dmg wise. the big boost too his defences makes him bulky enough to take a few hits. Mold breaker is kinda a step down, yet allows taunt on mega absol and espeon and negate water absorbers. His typing, I don't know. Looses SR weakness but can be hit by spikes and posion spikes. Gyarados didn't have a good flying move, but as far as i know, it has no good dark moves (yet) either.
Base 95/155/109/70/130/81
So yeah, to me he looks quite good on paper but why isn't he?
Base 95/155/109/70/130/81
So yeah, to me he looks quite good on paper but why isn't he?
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One Pokemon that is going to be used extensively. Flying mons will get ripped apart by bullet punch. Which levitating psyhcic pokemon is even viable? Bronzong?
+2 252 Atk Adaptability Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Bronzong: 370-436 (109.46 - 128.99%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Flying Pokemon:
Gyrados
+1 252 Atk Adaptability Lucario Close Combat vs. 88 HP / 4 Def Gyarados: 258-304 (73.08 - 86.11%) -- 81.25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Crunch: 48.72 - 57.5%
Lando-T:
+1 252 Atk Adaptability Lucario Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 172 Def Landorus-T: 195-230 (51.18 - 60.36%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Crunch: 34.12 - 40.41%
Perhaps you meant Xatu:
Yes a +2 Crunch kills it
But
Bullet Punch: 76.64 - 90.41%
However, lets look the biggest threat:
Aegislash, non contact move, is a great check
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^ I meant Cress and Slowbro.
You have firm faith that both those pokemon will receive extensive coverage?
Intimidate is still -1; the change was a debunked rumor based on someone forgetting about Simple.
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