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Other 6th Gen Pokemon UU Candidate Speculation Thread
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I haven't checked to see if they've been quick-banned yet but there's no WAY that Kyurem-B,Manaphy,and Keldeo are staying in UU. They are just broken down there in that mess. Haxrous is going to end up BL because it's just WAY TO powerful there. Salamence and Hydreigon might join him but they might acutally stay in UU. Poor Metagross can't escape though.
Thats completely false, haxorus has been easily one of the worst ou drops, and that isnt just because kyurem is there. Its just too frail to setup and too reliant on outrage on choiced sets. Theres absolutely no way its going to BL or even going to be a top threat in the current meta. Maybe things could change in the next months but definitely not now. Salamence is still ou btw.
It is? I heard it dropped.
It honestly dropped due to usage.
Usage is very weird though.If we were totally reliant on usage Dialga would be in NU.
That's a very scary thought though.
Hax dropped simply because there were D-Dancers that were BETTER then it in OU.D-Nite,Salamence,Gyrados even do a better job.
It honestly dropped due to usage.
Usage is very weird though.If we were totally reliant on usage Dialga would be in NU.
That's a very scary thought though.
It doesnt matter why it dropped, the fact is, its not good in the current uu meta and there are zero chances its going to be suspected if things stay that way.
True.
But Keldeo,Manaphy and Kyurem-B aren't staying there anytime soon.
Kyurem-B and Manaphy especially.
Heliolisk is a pokemon I was pleased about getting into UU. It wasn't good enough for OU(I'll still use it anyway)but I think it has a great niche in UU.
Politoed dropped so Drizzle+Dry Skin will give it a niche in UU.Plus having a Electric stab instant Healing So you don't have to use Lefties and a rain boosted Surf is going to make it great.
But Keldeo,Manaphy and Kyurem-B aren't staying there anytime soon.
Kyurem-B and Manaphy especially.
Heliolisk is a pokemon I was pleased about getting into UU. It wasn't good enough for OU(I'll still use it anyway)but I think it has a great niche in UU.
Politoed dropped so Drizzle+Dry Skin will give it a niche in UU.Plus having a Electric stab instant Healing So you don't have to use Lefties and a rain boosted Surf is going to make it great.
Well I can safely say never ever let a Scolipede baton pass a couple of boosts to a mega heracross. I have seen this combo sweep so many teams on showdown. Its absolutely deadly.
Seems like a problem for OU more so than UU. If you allow a Speed Boost Scolipede to do so though, it is partially your own fault for not KOing him. Its rather frail to be getting 2 off in the first place.
Bisharp does fear the Mega Lucario and Ground Types such as Garchomp, however, even in OU, it's very good with it's ability to benefit from Sticky Web, and Defog, making it more dangerous. Bisharp in UU is gonna be a scary sight to see.
What are your guy's opinions about Mega Medicham in UU? I'm not sure if it has been talked about before, but Mega Medicham did pose a threat in OU, and it can pose more off a threat in UU. With Scarf Chandelure as one of it's checks in the tier, will Mega Medicham excel in UU?
I have never been swept by this combo because as soon as I see a scolipede and a heracross on the same team, I always bring out my fire or flying type whenever I see scolipede come out and start spamming flare blitz or brave bird because I am not going to fall for that BS. I have seen other people on showdown let scolipede set up and then pretty much get swept by mega hera once it gets baton passed the boosts. And a lot of scolipedes carry focus sash and protect so they can at least take one hit and set up a swords dance and use protect to get the speed boost going.
I can't wait to see how UU looks once the tier gets sorted out and the broken stuff go because honestly it is a mess right now.
Who is the most predominante UU Mega at the moment? Mega Heracross/ Mega Medicham comes to my mind.
Remember Mega Ampharos, Mega Houndoom, Mega Manectric, and maybe Mega Blastoise/Mawile/Venusaur. The last three are quite unlikely though.
Mega Ampharos and Mega Manectric are both amazing pivots, Mega Ampharos being a slow bulky one, while Mega Manectric is a fast Intimidate pivot. Mega Houndoom is simply a sweeper, and if Ninetales falls to UU alongside it, the only thing stopping it is Politoed. With stuff like Victini and Darmanitan in the tier, Sun would be really borked if it fell into UU. If not, Mega Houndoom can use Sunny Day.
Mega Medicham still kicks ass.
Lol, you just might have played me in the last few days.
You never know with usage stats. It probably won't be UU simply because it's a mandatory addition to all stall teams, but you can never know with stuff like Blastoise, Mawile, and Venusaur.
If it fell into UU then Victini would start running Zen Headbutt again.
Replying to note that Mawile is OU, and so can't be used in UU.
Mawile is OU right now, but this is about what to expect from UU in the future.
It's unlikely, but if it happens, UU probably wouldn't be too unprepared for it. It's at least very much more manageable than Haxorus, or Kyurem-B, Latias, and Keldeo.
If by some bizarre turn of events MVenusaur drops in usage it'll easily be quickbanned to BL. It's currently S ranked in the OU viability thread, it will absolutely not be allowed in UU. It's a fantastic tank even outside of stall.
What the heck people? I can understand a little speculation on what might drop (or rise), but we're starting to get ridiculous. Also, if a pokemon is not currently banned, its perfectly all right to discuss.
If a pokemon is currently banned, there's very little reason to talk about it (MVenusaur dropping, lol). If a pokemon is not banned feel free to discuss its viability (Potential to be banished to BL is part of its viability). PLEASE stop getting ahead of yourselves by predicting things dropping when right now they don't show any signs of doing it.
Edit: All right, I might have been a little unfair, but we have gone too far in speculation. Here's some pokemon that show realistic chances of crossing the threshold (based solely on usage trends):
Dropping:
Galvantula (Significant drop in usage, now less than 3.4%, will take a while for 3 month usage stats to drop though)
Salamence (slight drop in usage, but still over 3.4%. Not likely to drop for at least a few months)
Smeargle (Large drop, but still well over 3.4%. Another down the road candidate)
Rising:
Bisharp (December usage shows it at 3.7%, not sure how long we'll be able to use this one)
Celebi (Very borderline, I can see it going either way)
Latias (has been rising steadily. It's already over 3.4% in December and looks like it'll keep going)
Deoxys (Both are well over 3.4%)
Besides those, any changes in tiering (OU and UU. BL is another story) are so long term that I don't think they're worth discussing at this time
If a pokemon is currently banned, there's very little reason to talk about it (MVenusaur dropping, lol). If a pokemon is not banned feel free to discuss its viability (Potential to be banished to BL is part of its viability). PLEASE stop getting ahead of yourselves by predicting things dropping when right now they don't show any signs of doing it.
Edit: All right, I might have been a little unfair, but we have gone too far in speculation. Here's some pokemon that show realistic chances of crossing the threshold (based solely on usage trends):
Dropping:
Galvantula (Significant drop in usage, now less than 3.4%, will take a while for 3 month usage stats to drop though)
Salamence (slight drop in usage, but still over 3.4%. Not likely to drop for at least a few months)
Smeargle (Large drop, but still well over 3.4%. Another down the road candidate)
Rising:
Bisharp (December usage shows it at 3.7%, not sure how long we'll be able to use this one)
Celebi (Very borderline, I can see it going either way)
Latias (has been rising steadily. It's already over 3.4% in December and looks like it'll keep going)
Deoxys (Both are well over 3.4%)
Besides those, any changes in tiering (OU and UU. BL is another story) are so long term that I don't think they're worth discussing at this time
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Bisharp is so beastly. I really do think that all good uu teams need to have at least a counter to this thing because Bisharp can easily destroy teams especially after getting up a swords dance. At + 2 attack, sucker punch does a ton of damage even to pokes that resist dark and most of the time just straight OHKO'S pokemon that don't. And with the steel nerf and the buff to knock off, it is definitely a lot harder to wall in this gen. I love how Bisharp benefited so much from the type changes in this gen while other steel types got slightly nerfed.
With the exception of Mawile and Venusaur, since they are in OU at the moment, that's a pretty solid list of other potential mega threats!! What you said about Mega Houndoom can make him very deadly in UU, since he boast base 140 SpA and base 115 Speed, and will deal massive damage under the sun. I have also noticed Mega Aggron being used in the UU ladder more often now. Although I never had major trouble against it, it is something to note.
Just saw the news, quick bans have begun! Bye Kyurem-B, Manaphy, and Drizzle!
@ Scytha Gang - M-Houndoom worked well for myself with a Donphan/Ferrothorn/Houndoom core for OU, possibly seeing him with a similar set to make more use on a free switch in?
Even with the stronger OU drops we're gonna be seeing, I still think it just opens up a few doors in use for 'mons that may just make some new sets useful. Megas having use here will just go to make UU that much more interesting.
Even with the stronger OU drops we're gonna be seeing, I still think it just opens up a few doors in use for 'mons that may just make some new sets useful. Megas having use here will just go to make UU that much more interesting.
I have been noticing that the Mega evos in UU are all actually doing quite well because they all have there own niches. Even mega banette since players are actually getting smarter on how to use that thing.
So it might be possible that no megas will drop below UU.
So it might be possible that no megas will drop below UU.
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