Ok... so I recently got a Latios and a Latias off the GTS and they had the best IVs and Timid nature. So I decided to make a set that could work in the Doubles metagame. So after a few thoughts and stuff, I came up with this set
Latias @Sitrus Berry/Weakness Policy
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP/ 56 DEF/ 200 SPE
- Dragon Pulse
- Psyshock/Surf/Shadow Ball
- Relect Type
- Roost
Now this was a shock to me, as the set was pretty successful. Reflect Type allows Latias to become the type(s) of the Pokemon it targets, including yours! For example, my strategy was to target my Klefki with Reflect Type and become a Steel/Fairy type after Klefki sets up a Light Screen/Reflect or a Safeguard. Because of this, the only thing that can hit Latias will be Fire types as Latias has the ability Levitate. Because of this Surf is in the move set even if Klefki is harmed in the process. Luckily, Pokemon like Jellicent can switch out for Klefki to absorb Surf and get some HP back. Roost is particularly interesting as Levitate will keep you off the ground while you restore your HP. In other words, you've covered all of you Latias' weakness with its newfound Steel/Fairy typing thanks to Reflect Type. Sitrus Berry allows for some recovery for when Latias gets low on HP. However, the damage output on this Latias is very low. Here is an example of the "damage" it deals.
0 SpA Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 120-144 (65.2 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 34-42 (16.4 - 20.2%) -- possible 5HKO
0 SpA Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Rotom-W: 49-58 (31.2 - 36.9%) -- 70.7% chance to 3HKO
The only Pokemon here that Latias can actually get a realistic KO on is Garchomp. However, if Garchomp is holding a Choice Scarf, Latias will be outsped and 2HKOed by a Jolly Dragon Claw. If the Garchomp is holding a Choice Band, Latias will alway be OHKOed after doing 65.2 - 78.2% to Garchomp. If Garchomp has a Life Orb...
252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 56 Def Latias: 182-218 (97.3 - 116.5%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
This is why Reflect Type is good. It keeps Latias Safe from Garchomp, and other similar Dragon types.
Weakness Policy is an option, as it gives a +2 Atk/Sp.Atk boost to Latias if it is hit for SE damage. This boost allows Latias to obtain KOs and higher damage that it could not before such as:
+2 0 SpA Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 236-282 (128.2 - 153.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 0 SpA Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Rotom-W: 97-115 (61.7 - 73.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
This guarantees a OHKO on Garchomp and a 2HKO on Rotom-W. Tyranitar is only 3HKOed by the same move. And this is all including the STAB boost as well. However, while it may seem weak now, you can take a more offensive approach with this set:
Latias Life Orb
Nature: Timid
EVs: 56 HP/ 252 SP.ATK/ 200 SPE
- Dragon Pulse
- Psyshock/Surf
- Relfect Type
- Roost
With a STAB, Life Orb boosted Dragon Pulse will 2HKO Rotom-W with this calculation.
252 SpA Life Orb Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Rotom-W: 79-95 (50.3 - 60.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
The same attack does this to Garchomp.
252 SpA Life Orb Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 195-229 (105.9 - 124.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Non STAB will do this.
252 SpA Life Orb Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 130-153 (70.6 - 83.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Another thing to note is the Speed EVs. I put in 200 SPE so that Latias can outspeed un boost base 102s by one point, as well as anything below.
As you can see, the power difference is fairly high so it depends, offensive or defensive. Offensive enjoys Roost for saying alive longer, but can be changed for something like Protect. Surf is also good for things like Heatran and general coverage after you use Reflect Type.
That is my thoughts on a Timid Latias. Hope you enjoyed, and please feel free to list your ideas and sets as well. It will help create better discussion and sets, other than mine. I look forward to seeing your ideas.
Latias @Sitrus Berry/Weakness Policy
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP/ 56 DEF/ 200 SPE
- Dragon Pulse
- Psyshock/Surf/Shadow Ball
- Relect Type
- Roost
Now this was a shock to me, as the set was pretty successful. Reflect Type allows Latias to become the type(s) of the Pokemon it targets, including yours! For example, my strategy was to target my Klefki with Reflect Type and become a Steel/Fairy type after Klefki sets up a Light Screen/Reflect or a Safeguard. Because of this, the only thing that can hit Latias will be Fire types as Latias has the ability Levitate. Because of this Surf is in the move set even if Klefki is harmed in the process. Luckily, Pokemon like Jellicent can switch out for Klefki to absorb Surf and get some HP back. Roost is particularly interesting as Levitate will keep you off the ground while you restore your HP. In other words, you've covered all of you Latias' weakness with its newfound Steel/Fairy typing thanks to Reflect Type. Sitrus Berry allows for some recovery for when Latias gets low on HP. However, the damage output on this Latias is very low. Here is an example of the "damage" it deals.
0 SpA Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 120-144 (65.2 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 34-42 (16.4 - 20.2%) -- possible 5HKO
0 SpA Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Rotom-W: 49-58 (31.2 - 36.9%) -- 70.7% chance to 3HKO
The only Pokemon here that Latias can actually get a realistic KO on is Garchomp. However, if Garchomp is holding a Choice Scarf, Latias will be outsped and 2HKOed by a Jolly Dragon Claw. If the Garchomp is holding a Choice Band, Latias will alway be OHKOed after doing 65.2 - 78.2% to Garchomp. If Garchomp has a Life Orb...
252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 56 Def Latias: 182-218 (97.3 - 116.5%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
This is why Reflect Type is good. It keeps Latias Safe from Garchomp, and other similar Dragon types.
Weakness Policy is an option, as it gives a +2 Atk/Sp.Atk boost to Latias if it is hit for SE damage. This boost allows Latias to obtain KOs and higher damage that it could not before such as:
+2 0 SpA Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 236-282 (128.2 - 153.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 0 SpA Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Rotom-W: 97-115 (61.7 - 73.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
This guarantees a OHKO on Garchomp and a 2HKO on Rotom-W. Tyranitar is only 3HKOed by the same move. And this is all including the STAB boost as well. However, while it may seem weak now, you can take a more offensive approach with this set:
Latias Life Orb
Nature: Timid
EVs: 56 HP/ 252 SP.ATK/ 200 SPE
- Dragon Pulse
- Psyshock/Surf
- Relfect Type
- Roost
With a STAB, Life Orb boosted Dragon Pulse will 2HKO Rotom-W with this calculation.
252 SpA Life Orb Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Rotom-W: 79-95 (50.3 - 60.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
The same attack does this to Garchomp.
252 SpA Life Orb Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 195-229 (105.9 - 124.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Non STAB will do this.
252 SpA Life Orb Latias Dragon Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 130-153 (70.6 - 83.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Another thing to note is the Speed EVs. I put in 200 SPE so that Latias can outspeed un boost base 102s by one point, as well as anything below.
As you can see, the power difference is fairly high so it depends, offensive or defensive. Offensive enjoys Roost for saying alive longer, but can be changed for something like Protect. Surf is also good for things like Heatran and general coverage after you use Reflect Type.
That is my thoughts on a Timid Latias. Hope you enjoyed, and please feel free to list your ideas and sets as well. It will help create better discussion and sets, other than mine. I look forward to seeing your ideas.
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