I just wanna point out that the firebot thread mentioned in here asked about entering a relationship with a transgendered person and not a sexual encounter and that I would think that a person's safety takes much higher precedence than the other person's dating expectations and just leave that whole thing at that, thanks
I'm sorry because I don't know what sexual taboo you may have dealt with growing up but I'm going to have to make the assumption that Berserker Lord 's post was written under the context of the wider phenomenon of women being largely more sexualized than men, and that being their defining value in the eyes of a noticable portion of society at large, and with the belief that this is something wrong, harmful, and that needs to be tackled (both of which describe my alignment here as well). That random catcalling from strange guys on the street I'm sure you've heard of or can ask the women in your family about if you care, or any other form of casual sexual harassment that's been normalized generally coming from men. And sorry to say, but I don't believe at all that those kind of habits are justifiable by or inherent to "full-on" straight sexuality. Shit, my head is dirty as hell but every time I hear other guys say it's normal or okay to tread on people like an "alpha" I quiver and scream internally, sorry!
eta: Remember that thread where you said raising a daughter in society sounds scary? It's a little something like that!
On the other hand, using "gay" as an insult isn't fucking okay either. ಠ_ಠ
Would you agree that a society where everyone can be open and honest about their sexuality is better? Where LGBTQ people would feel safer opening up, and where people did not have to feel in any way ashamed of their sexual feelings? I think this way-- and not only about sexuality; I think the world would be a better place if people could all be more honest, and all be more forgiving with all aspect of our lives that are human, that are animal, that are not perfect or godly. That may not be the way it works, nor might it even be practical-- but I think it's an ideal to shoot for.
And yet, here you are belittling, demeaning, sneering at straight men for having open and honest expression about their own sexual desires; and you're not the only one-- I'm not sure why, but society feels it's ok for men who talk about women or sex to be labelled as "hound-dogs," "Depraved", "horny assholes," or what have you. It took me a long time growing up to realize it was "ok" to feel the way I do about women-- that it didn't make me gross, or evil, or a terrible person for having strong sexual urges; that was a huge part of my growing up in highschool. Yeah thanks modern media.
YOU might feel more apathetic to sex, but for those of us born full "straight male" and with strong sex drives, the urges, and "alphaness", the instincts we feel have a POWERFUL affect and influence on us-- and it's not something we can control or change about ourselves anymore than a straight woman, gay male, gay female, BT, asexual can change about their own sexualities. We are what evolution has made us.
So yes-- not for all, but for some men the drive to have sex just for sex is there, is wired into the DNA. Yes interest in women just because "they're hot" is also ingrained in there. And yes, being able to openly express feelings and frustrations born from those powerful instincts with other men who feel similarly in a safe environment or just openly can be fun, can make us feel good, and wow--
For someone to call that shameful, base, or "shit"-- I don't see how someone can say that and expect any sort of tolerance for their own sexuality.
Seriously, I'm all on-board letting people be people-- but wouldn't that be ridiculous if that sentiment is only meant for minorities?
Especially when in this case, a "majority" of "straight men" also gets the smear-campaign from standard media and sentiment.
I'm sorry because I don't know what sexual taboo you may have dealt with growing up but I'm going to have to make the assumption that Berserker Lord 's post was written under the context of the wider phenomenon of women being largely more sexualized than men, and that being their defining value in the eyes of a noticable portion of society at large, and with the belief that this is something wrong, harmful, and that needs to be tackled (both of which describe my alignment here as well). That random catcalling from strange guys on the street I'm sure you've heard of or can ask the women in your family about if you care, or any other form of casual sexual harassment that's been normalized generally coming from men. And sorry to say, but I don't believe at all that those kind of habits are justifiable by or inherent to "full-on" straight sexuality. Shit, my head is dirty as hell but every time I hear other guys say it's normal or okay to tread on people like an "alpha" I quiver and scream internally, sorry!
eta: Remember that thread where you said raising a daughter in society sounds scary? It's a little something like that!
Another thing that is a mix of both sad and funny is how vehemently some guys deny that they are gay when someone says they are.
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On the other hand, using "gay" as an insult isn't fucking okay either. ಠ_ಠ
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