Other XY OU Pokemon of the Week #10: Kabutops

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Hey guys, TRC. with Magnemite here bringing everyone the next Pokemon of the Week!

The XY OU Pokemon of the Week is an (obviously) weekly project in the Overused forum. The idea originated from when we were reading many of the discussion threads, often the discussion is a bit lacking in the content department. Our goal here to is to highlight a threat in the metagame that isn't as well known, or isn't used as much as it should be, and provide a concise amount of information about that Pokemon; this will encourage creativity during teambuilding, and it will also provide an instant wealth of knowledge about that particular threat. This will hopefully be more helpful to the massive influx of new players in the OU subforum and promote better discussion within the individual threads. In this thread though, the main point of discussion should be about experiences with that particular Pokemon and the sets featured, and how it has helped in some way during your battling. Niche sets and gimmicks can be mentioned as well, but bear in mind that this thread is mainly an informative source of knowledge through what is written in the OP; discussion is not its main focus, though it is most certainly allowed. we need to make this point clear. Think of this like an article introducing you to a new threat that you can use; and try it out! Oh yeah, you can also VM one of us what you think the next POTW should be, bearing in mind that they will be on lesser-used threats, such as Chesnaught, Krookodile, or Cofagrigus.

Remember, in order to be Pokemon of the Week, a Pokemon must be in a tier below OU (Including BL), based on the new 1760 stats.

This week's Pokemon of the Week is Kabutops.

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Type: Rock / Water
Base Stats: 60 HP / 115 Atk / 105 Def / 65 SpA / 70 SpD / 80 Spe
Ability: Swift Swim / Battle Armor / Weak Armor
Introduction
With the unbanning of Drizzle + Swift Swim, Kabutops becomes a major force on rain Hyper Offense teams. Boasting the aforementioned elusive Swift Swim, as well as an excellent STAB combination and a nice movepool, Kabutops has everything it needs to swiftly slice its way through OU. With its STAB moves as well as Low Kick for Ferrothorn, it covers nearly all Pokemon in the game at least neutrally, and even neutral Water-type hits seem super-effective in the rain. It can even out-priority other Pokemon with Aqua Jet, as well as boost with Swords Dance or remove hazards with Rapid Spin. Kabutops is definitely a versatile offensive Pokemon.

However, Kabutops isn't exactly the bulkiest of Pokemon, and as such it has trouble switching in, especially on special attacks. It also has trouble with Mach Punch a common form of priority, and without rain to sweep in, it isn't that fast and often quite difficult to use. While the weather nerf allowed Kabutops to be usable for its niches in OU, it also limited the amount of time Kabutops has to utilize said boost.

What to try:
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Kabutops @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Swords Dance / Rapid Spin
- Low Kick / Aqua Jet

As you may have gathered by now, Kabutops is a deadly physical sweeper in the rain. Waterfall and Stone Edge are its STAB moves, and they complement each other quite nicely. Waterfall is very powerful in the rain, and as such it is difficult to switch into, especially since the Pokemon coming into battle is incredibly likely to be outsped the following turn. The choice between Swords Dance and Rapid Spin is an important one. Swords Dance allows you to become incredibly powerful, with Waterfall cleaving through resists easily in rain, whereas Rapid Spin is helpful for removing hazards, more helpful than one would think as Defog users are difficult to fit on rain teams. Then we get to the final slot. Low Kick is Kabutops's only way of ever breaking through Ferrothorn, so it is definitely a popular choice, but Aqua Jet allows you to beat Pokemon attempting to KO with priority, such as Talonflame if you have taken a large amount of LO recoil. The EV spread and nature are the standard choice, and a Life Orb is used for maximum power.

What else can you try?
There really isn't any reason to stray from Kabutops's best offensive set, but there are a couple of other things to try. Stealth Rock and Rain Dance are both interesting choices if Kabutops is away from the standard rain offense core. A Weak Armor set with Endure and Weakness Policy is terribly gimmicky, but it can work to some effect. Hone Claws is often outclassed by Swords Dance, but boosting Stone Edge's accuracy is a nice boon.

Good Partners for this Pokemon:
The best core that I've used with Kabutops as I'm sure many others have, is Deoxys-S / Kabutops / Kingdra / Politoed. The goal is pretty simple, set up Stealth Rock and Rain Dance quickly with Deoxys-S, and then break through everything with special Kingdra and physical Kabutops. Politoed is simply a backup rain setter. Latios can also deal with typical rain checks, and as such, it is a good partner.

Playing against Kabutops: Checks and Counters
Mega Venusaur, Chesnaught, and Keldeo can wall it and do a ton back with their STAB moves, Ferrothorn can wall sets without Low Kick, Thundurus can paralyze it but it hates to take Stone Edge, Gourgiest-XL is a nice defensive check, as are Pokemon immune to water or Pokemon that take pittance from Water-type attacks, such as Suicune. Finally, Prankster Pokemon such as Sableye and Whimsicott can burn it, paralyze it, or in Whimsicott's case, use Giga Drain.

There we go, that's the tenth Pokemon of the Week! Let us know whether this has helped you at all, and your results of testing this Kabutops set on the ladder. Also, don't forget to let us know via VM what Pokemon you want to see next. All opinions are welcome, as well as opinions about the Pokemon of the Week format and any ideas you want to see implemented, as well as questions for us about either Kabutops or POTW itself. Go out there and try Kabutops now, and we'll see you next time!

 
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You forgot the chance the name to Kabutops in the last section. Also would it be worth noting that Toxicroak completely walls Kabutops, resisting its STABs and Low Kick as well as benefitting from the rain, or is Toxicroak not good enough?
 
You forgot the chance the name to Kabutops in the last section. Also would it be worth noting that Toxicroak completely walls Kabutops, resisting its STABs and Low Kick as well as benefitting from the rain, or is Toxicroak not good enough?
I can't see it, I think a mod fixed it. As for Toxicroak, it isn't the best Pokemon in OU, and while it can certainly wall Kabutops, doing that alone isn't enough reason to use it.
 
Kabutops is a very interesting Pokemon in the sense that no one really specifically prepares for it, yet it can easily sweep when given a half-chance, which is one of the reasons the metagame is surprisingly diverse. When making a team, obvious physical threats like Zard X, Gyarados etc are easy to acknowledge while lesser-used threats such as Kabutops can slip under the radar, mostly because dedicated rain teams are rare. I wouldn't rate Kabutops extraordinarily high in terms of viability, as Mega Venusaur, Rotom-W, and Ferrothorn are fairly common, but it is actually not hugely difficult to find an opportunity to set up an SD; Talonflame, Tyranitar, and Heatran are pretty much set up bait. Easily my favourite rain sweeper
 
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I can't see it, I think a mod fixed it. As for Toxicroak, it isn't the best Pokemon in OU, and while it can certainly wall Kabutops, doing that alone isn't enough reason to use it.
Well Toxicroak still check the shiton of stuff in OU, like Keldeo, Azumarill and Venu lacking EQ (2hko'd by Gunk Shot after rocks for even max/max+ Venu IIRC).

Anyway I have to wonder why does the OP say that Kabutops have trouble with Bullet Punch when it is neutral unlike Mach Punch?
 
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It's certainly the best Swift Swim abuser and walks on to any rain team (which is a pretty solid strategy especially with Damp Rock Deo-S to make arguably the best Hyperoffense core this gen with Deo-S, Politoed, Kabutops and Omastar/Kingdra). It's checked reasonably easily but a lot of its checks are not very good against Omastar/Kingdra (except Keldeo which is by far the best counter to rain). However if those checks are removed (just run mons that can break Megasaur/Keldeo/Ferro as your last 2 team slots) it has incredible power, I cba to calc stuff but even at +0 LO Waterfall in rain will OHKO a lot of neutral stuff and if you get it to +2 it's an absolute monster if unchecked (the best thing you can do is lure in Rotom-W on the Swords Dance and OHKO it with +2 SE).
 
(except Keldeo which is by far the best counter to rain)

Uh.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingdra Surf vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo in Rain: 159-187 (49.2 - 57.8%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO

Plus it has no recovery, aside from leftovers.

Kabutops has less immediate power than specs Kingdra, yeah, but still packs quite a wallop and Keldeo loses almost half of its health from waterfall. In order to counter Kabutops it must not have taken any prior damage, at all.

Ferrothorn is a much bigger headache for rain teams.
 
Kabutops is definitely the most threatening sweeper in the very powerful rain HO playstyle. What's really great about it is its priority, letting it beat other priority users (especially Mach Punchers) at +2 after a bit of prior damage, and its ability to deny Y-Charizard, Tyranitar and Thundurus, probably the biggest threats to rain besides bulky Grass- and Water-tyes.

I've found the Lum Berry very helpful - a lot of times is a defensive mon inclined to stay in and try to paralyse you, but with an instant status cure, you can just take advantage of that free turn to set up. In a pinch you can even switch into a predicted status move, to get the rather frail sweeper in safely.
 
Ive been using Waterfall, Aqua Jet, Stone Edge, and Swords Dance along with Mystic Water instead of a Life Orb. While Stone Edge may drop a but in power, I find that saving health can be crucial in allowing Kabutops to avoid the OHKO and switch in multiple times per match.
 
I think we can all agree that Kabutops is a fantastic pokemon under rain and water / rock STABs are absolutely brutal especially when one of your STAB moves has the base power of Outrage under rain with no drawbacks.

I was wondering what Kabutops needs max speed for though. The spread I ran way back when was 32 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 216 Spe with an Adamant nature of course. This is just enough for speed for Kabutops to outspeed base 102 scarfers under rain which is all it can really hope to outspeed since it can't outspeed 108 scarfers without a Jolly nature and 105 scarfers are non existent in OU iirc.

(Edit :It could be used to tie with other Kabutops I guess, but that is about all I see.)

I am a bit out of practice when it comes to OU though, so I could have missed something big.
 
Kabutops IMO is the best rain sweeper out there right now. Typical problem Pokemon for rain teams can be a non-issue for Kabutops. Its Rock-typing and high defense really differentiates it from other rain sweepers because it is resilient against bird teams and typical priority users on hyper offense teams (Extreme Speed Dragonite and Talonflame). Aqua Jet is way more useful than Low Kick. Aqua Jet lets you have a chance to sweep outside of rain, beat opposing priority users (ex. Scizor), and let's you beat revenge killing Charizard-Y, Scarf Tyranitar, and Twave Thudurus-I (you out-prioritize twave). Low Kick is just really for Ferrothorn. Granted it is a big problem for Rain-teams, but unlike Aqua Jet's targets, Ferrothorn can't counter-sweep your team stone cold. You have other options if you really wanted to deal damate to Ferrothorn, like Focus Blast Thundurus-I or Ludicolo. Aqua Jet is unique to Kabutops as far as Swift Swim sweepers go (apart from Floatzel, outclassed by Kabutops himself), and so you should definitely include it on your rain team.
 
I'm running a rain dance team right now, and Kabutops is fantastic. It frequently sweeps at adamant +0. I think life orb is mandatory, it really needs the power.
 
Dammit, now everyones gonna use Kabutops :(

Anyway, Kabutops is just so powerful this gen. Nothing bar Base 108 Scarfers (Which aren't very common this gen) can revenge kill it in rain and it has so few switch ins that it's very difficult to stop. It also has the liberty of running Adamant and still outspeeding every common scarfer in the tier which means it hits harder with Rain Boosted Waterfalls than Jolly Gachomp can with STAB Outrage (Only slightly but still). Definately a threat and a mon that deserves more use.
 
Well, Life Orb is the only slash, and I can't imagine what other items you would use on this thing. Choice Band sacrifices your sweeping ability, Expert Belt is a poor option as most Pokemon you are hitting neutrally with rain-boosted STAB, things will be OHKOed if they are weak to it. I think the only other viable item is Lum Berry, as it helps to shield you temporarily from Thundurus's Prankster Thunder Wave, while you smack it back with Stone Edge. Thundurus tends to trouble rain teams immensely unless you happen to be running Seismitoad, so I can see Lum Berry being useful, but not as useful as the general power boost that Life Orb provides.
 
Aerial Ace is quite a gimmick move but it can lure a Keldeo/Chesnaught/Megavenusaur, once the first two (and maybe relaxed venusaur with hp fire to a certain extent) SD M-Zor has a field day to set-up and wreck stuff with Bullet punch.
 
I was surprised that there's no mention of Superpower, but a closer look shows that Low Kick deals relatively similar damage over 2 turns and doesn't suffer a stat drop. Regardless, I'd still be saying no to Kabutops vs Ferro unless Kabutops has an SD up or if Ferro switches in on a Fighting move already, as I can see Ferro stalling it quite easily with its shenanigans otherwise.

And some other uninteresting and mostly unviable moves he gets are:

Knock Off: Kabutops dosen't really need a dark move, but Kabutops can beat Aegislash with it if it switches in on Waterfall or Knock Off. Also wrecks lati's
Ice Beam: (can be EV'd to kill 1hko chomp Mienshao style for a lure)
X-Scissor: Worth mentioning, but I can't see it being useful.
Rock Polish: Can't see this being any use since you'd only use it outside of rain, and he shouldn't really be used outside of rain.
Hone Claws: Alternate boosting move that patches up SE's accuracy and would also allow the use of Aqua tail, but unless you REALLY hate hax, I'd opt for the power of SD.
 
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