Alphability ORAS [Check Post #232]

[Darth Manaphy]

Wonder Guard? ummm... maybe a little OP :/



1 weakness...

Is this going to be one of those escalation things where everyone begins to carry something with Mold Breaker just to kill W-Pokemon.

Wonder Guard Weavile, Wobbuffet, Whimsicott (Fuck, this thing got even MORE annoying)... If you want to be a complete douchenozzle you can even troll people with Wonder Guard Wurmple for a tiny bit

This may be a good time to discuss bans...

 

[berry]

Is this going to be one of those escalation things where everyone begins to carry something with Mold Breaker just to kill W-Pokemon.

Wonder Guard Weavile, Wobbuffet, Whimsicott (Fuck, this thing got even MORE annoying)... If you want to be a complete douchenozzle you can even troll people with Wonder Guard Wurmple for a tiny bit

This may be a good time to discuss bans...

Definately. And I don't think there's even any abilities that start with X...

Sorry Xerneas and Xatu

 

[Expulso]

Wonder Guard? ummm... maybe a little OP :/



1 weakness...
Also
Parental Bond Pangoro, Porygon-Z, Pinsir, and Palkia? (Ubers Alphability maybe)

Yes, 1 weakness. Only 1 weakness is excellent for a Wonder Guard Pokemon. Alternatively you could use Wormadam-S, but that's rather inferior.

 

[mallpal]

wonder guard and trapping abilities are a good place to start banhammering, a la bh

shadow tag smeargle can pretty reliably get off a smash pass or bd pass against anything slower than it, which is slightly good

 

[mallpal]

wormadam t is a good wonderguarder cuz immunity to toxic, infestation, probably more i'm missing despite her poor stats

 

[berry]

Yes, 1 weakness. Only 1 weakness is excellent for a Wonder Guard Pokemon. Alternatively you could use Wormadam-S, but that's rather inferior.

I know, I know. i'm a hackmons player after all. But still, alot less OP than WG Weedle.

 

[Dilasc]

Lanturn is the new Rotom Wash with levitate.

What happens to Z mons who only get Zen Mode? What would it do for Zapdos and Zygarde?

Also Flash Fire/Fur Coat Forretress/Ferrothorn, Rock Head Rampardos, Motor Drive Milotic/Mantine, Magic Guard Moltress, Multiscale Mandibuzz, Sap Sipper Swampert, Regenerator Regigigas, and 'Who cares?! I'm not Truant!' Slaking.

Contrary Cobalion can spam Super Power or Close Combat to get defensive and still hit hard.

 

[Merritt]

With all the simple likely to be running around, Intimidate might be a worthwhile ability to have for defense.

Landorus got shafted, considering that it can choose between such OP options like Levitate (Rotom-Fan version 2.7, now with 145% more attack!), Limber or Lightningrod! Honestly, its best bet is Liquid Ooze.

Also, all the Js are gonna be justified, all Qs have their quick feet, and the Es are gonna either wake up early or possibly cause you to fall asleep. Sucks to be Jirachi, Jellicent, Jynx (all three weak to dark), Quagsire (gonna be the fastest defensive wall evar!), or even Entei and Excadrill.

On the other side, poor Drought and Drizzle, considering that not only are they slightly overshadowed by Download, but D also only has two fire types (Delphox and Darmanitan) and one water type (Dewgong). Similarly, Gale Wings is left in the hands of Gliscor and Gyarados for STAB priority flying moves. But Illusion is much more interesting, considering the abilities available. Imagine doing something with Wonder Guard and watching them see the non-super effective move impact Infernape.

 

[Dilasc]

Drizzle Dragonite with Thunder, Hurricane and a Water Move? Would it still work this gen?

 

[Kit Kasai]

Anyone who's played BH knows that sturdy shed isn't as easy to get rid of as it seems... Especially in the hands of a good player.

 

[Throbulator36]

Anyone who's played BH knows that sturdy shed isn't as easy to get rid of as it seems... Especially in the hands of a good player.

Yeah, you have to designate a move to beat it.

 

[Aragorn the King]

Everyone's favorite theorymons come true with this. Flash Fire Ferrothorn, Sturdy Shedinja, and Sap Sipper Swamper come to mind. Other maybe interesting ones are Fairy Aura Florges, Toxic Boost Terrakion, Regenerator Rhyperior, Slaking Everything, Regigigas Everything, Archeops everything, and Wonder Guard everything.

 

[TM13IceBeam]

the problem is that unlike bh shedinja doesn't get endeavor to cut the opponent's HP to 1, so it's not as gigantic of a threat here...

 

[Kit Kasai]

Whishcash seems to be the best wonder guard user here... I mean, Swampert is a staple pokemon in Hackmons. Whishcash can take advantage of wonderguard to set up dragon dance and sweep.

 

[Kit Kasai]

the problem is that unlike bh shedinja doesn't get endeavor to cut the opponent's HP to 1, so it's not as gigantic of a threat here...

It's still a really good pivot, considering that it has baton pass. It can also annoy the enemy team with will-o-wisp. Most good bh players don't use endeavor often anyways.

 

[mallpal]

Yeah, you have to designate a move to beat it.

a move on three or four of your mons, yeah

 

[skies]

Poor Zygarde );

 

[Aragorn the King]

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Poor Zygarde );

And Xatu.

 

[skies]

And Xatu.

Xatu still has Magic Bounce ;]

 

[Throbulator36]

a move on three or four of your mons, yeah

that's what I meant

 

[Wimblesaurus]

Staraptor @ Fist Plate
Ability: Scrappy

Archeops gets aerilate.

gale wings gyarados...

Compoundeyes Crustle sounds reliable.

Hustle Hawlucha could be pretty cool, with hone claws instead of SD

And Sand Stream or Snow Warning Shedinja could have a niche if you really want to get in a sand rush or sand force thing.

 

[Dilasc]

Gale Wings Gyarados is a bit void of options unless you're in love with Bounce.

I'd rather consider Guts if anything.

 

[Darth Manaphy]

And now I realized that Victini probably will not change...unless you REALLY REAAAALLLLY hate sleep. Oh well, he enjoys his more accurate attacks

 

[Impractical]

And now I realized that Victini probably will not change...unless you REALLY REAAAALLLLY hate sleep. Oh well, he enjoys his more accurate attacks

An immunity to electric with volt absorb is nice I guess even if it's not weak to it

 

[Golemman]

Ok guys, please realize something. Hustle + Hone claws is just a +2 attack boost. It's just a swords dance that takes up an ability slot so that it will have +1 immediately. If you going to take a turn to setup, run whatever with SD and not hustle hone claws because all it does for u is have a boost sooner

 

[Darth Manaphy]

An immunity to electric with volt absorb is nice I guess even if it's not weak to it

Ah forgot about Volt Absorb.

Still, it has such high powered moves in V-Create, Blue Flare, Bolt Strike, etc...that aren't too accurate and Victory Star can at least patch up some of its accuracy problems. I guess it's a tossup between those two