Well. I forgot about Gyarados. Facepalm.HP electric is better than HP grass as it also hits gyarados.
Well. I forgot about Gyarados. Facepalm.HP electric is better than HP grass as it also hits gyarados.
Specs keldeo hp flying is a guaranteed 2hko on mega venusaur if you hit it on the switch, assuming it's physically defensive. I don't have the calcs, but that's what it says on the analysis for keldeo in OU.Forgot about Mega Venusaur. Its still no more than a mere 59% chance to 2HKO and thats it. I'd still opt for HP Grass as an alternative to hit Azumarill.
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Hidden Power Flying vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Venusaur: 168-198 (46.1 - 54.3%) -- 59% chance to 2HKOSpecs keldeo hp flying is a guaranteed 2hko on mega venusaur if you hit it on the switch, assuming it's physically defensive. I don't have the calcs, but that's what it says on the analysis for keldeo in OU.
it is guaranteed after stealth rock damage.252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Hidden Power Flying vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Venusaur: 168-198 (46.1 - 54.3%) -- 59% chance to 2HKO
(assuming level 100). That is all. HP Psychic is a bad idea since you have to sacrifice speed for those who suggest it for whatever reason.
I forgot about the rocks. OK then, now I see the merit in HP Flying. But HP Electric helps with Azumarill AND Gyarados while HP Flying is only really helpful for Mega Venusaur.it is guaranteed after stealth rock damage.
I forgot about the rocks. OK then, now I see the merit in HP Flying. But HP Electric helps with Azumarill AND Gyarados while HP Flying is only really helpful for Mega Venusaur.
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Icy Wind vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Breloom: 272-320 (103.8 - 122.1%) -- guaranteed OHKOHP flying hits Breloom and Chestnaught pretty hard too.
Well Keldeo is an offensive mon and should be relying on raw power to OHKO/2HKO threats. It shouldn't really be relying on Scald (albeit it's a nice alternative to surf since it's not that much stronger though). I would run Hydro Pump, Secret Sword, HP Electric, and Icy Wind personally.I like having Icy Wind > the HP coverage, as a Scald Burn is likely enough after repeated switches and will weaken it for easy clean-up.
Scarf Keldeo is good but I think Specs Keldeo is much better as it has Good Speed and it almost outspeeds most of the pokemon this Gen and still Scarf Keldeo is Good but Specs keldeo has very good Sweep chance has with Specs Keldeo it can Almost kill any Pokemon with Hydra pump and it may 2hko venasaur on switch with Hidden power flying.you guys are forgetting that scarf keld also provides insurance against Mega Gyara, which gives offense a lot of problems. it also helps immensely against greninja, which absolutely obliterates offense if you arent running azumarill
I've been running this Keldeo set lately
Keldeo @ leftovers
Timid Nature
8 HP 248 SpA 252 Spe
- Substitute
- Icy Wind
- Scald
- Secret Sword
The HP EVs are for the SR / Sub #.
I don't think it's as widely useful as the choice sets, but has a nice niche for sure. Bring in Keldeo on something that it forces out and set up a substitute. A combination of Icy Wind and Subs beats the Lati twins if they run Life Orb.
Against anything else you can fire off a Scald before they break your substitute and hope for a burn. I don't sub up if my opponent has something that completely walls me like Slowbro, because having a sub up in that situation is completely worthless if it starts Calm Minding in my face. Keldeo does force a lot of switches though so it's nice to have the free attack after their switch rather than trying to predict and hit their switchin with the appropriate move
That's an option. But the idea was to come up with something new. It's a pretty decent lure that can pair well with something that doesn't enjoy the Latis, but it doesn't have to be for that. Keldeo still has good speed and special attack without choice items or calm mind boostsMight as well run CM over Icy Wind on that set and run something to trap Latis.
for a lure it wouldn't be very effective seeing as it would probably go like thisThat's an option. But the idea was to come up with something new. It's a pretty decent lure that can pair well with something that doesn't enjoy the Latis, but it doesn't have to be for that. Keldeo still has good speed and special attack without choice items or calm mind boosts
U-Turn Lando-I is probably better since it guarantees a ScarfTar kill with Pursuit.for a lure it wouldn't be very effective seeing as it would probably go like this
Keldeo comes out on heatran
Heatran goes to latias
keldeo uses substitute
latias uses psyshock, substitute destroyed
Keldeo uses icy wind, Latias takes
252 SpA Keldeo Icy Wind vs. 72 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 96-114 (30 - 35.7%) -- 29.4% chance to 3HKO
Keldeo uses icy wind again
Latias obliterates keldeo w/ psyshock
TL;DR keldeo cannot lure latias with icy wind. you need specs for that. and maybe not even then.
use something like knock off landorus-I if you want to lure latias.
for a lure it wouldn't be very effective seeing as it would probably go like this
Keldeo comes out on heatran
Heatran goes to latias
keldeo uses substitute
latias uses psyshock, substitute destroyed
Keldeo uses icy wind, Latias takes
252 SpA Keldeo Icy Wind vs. 72 HP / 0 SpD Latias: 96-114 (30 - 35.7%) -- 29.4% chance to 3HKO
Keldeo uses icy wind again
Latias obliterates keldeo w/ psyshock
TL;DR keldeo cannot lure latias with icy wind. you need specs for that. and maybe not even then.
use something like knock off landorus-I if you want to lure latias.