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Nah dude I think all-in plays like that are horrible unless you're planning to win. If he Hexed then you're left with (at best) 2 2/2's or a pair of 1/1's and a 3/2.
That's not good.
It's fun, that's what really counts unless you're pushing for Top # Legend. 8) This is also why you always Turn 4 Rag as a Druid when possible. But seriously, token Druid running Blood Knight it's not like you probably run any better Hex targets anyway. ;/ Cenarius I suppose. I always feel kinda underwhelmed whenever I have to Hex an Ancient of Lore but some Druids aren't running the really juicy targets like Cairne, Sunwalker, Ancient of War.
Warlock doesn't really matter either way, you donk Handlock and the Zoo matchup is all about Explosive Trap and UTH which both Hunter decks use.
It's okay against Miracle Rogue but Face is better. While Midrange mucks around with extremely attractive Sap targets, Face already has them in single-digit HP. They force more removal out before Auctioneer and put more pressure on their life total to blank their ability to control the board by running their face into things. Houndmaster is pretty attractive against aggro at least.
Warlock doesn't really matter either way, you donk Handlock and the Zoo matchup is all about Explosive Trap and UTH which both Hunter decks use.
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everyone in here is so good lomo i was excited when i got rank 10
I seem to be getting a lot of unusually giant monsters lately.
Also the first time I've ever seen Giants Mage.
Also the first time I've ever seen Giants Mage.
How much experience do you have with TCGs? If you've played anything like Magic: The Gathering, YugiOh!, or even Pokemon TCG, you'll at least understand the bare bones basics. It's fairly easy to pick up in my opinion. The problem is putting it back down (the game is addicting, like any regular CCG).
There's also the fact that there isn't dozens of years of card backlogs and expansions every few months to go through as can be the case with TCGs.
You're going to have a hard time. Having a starter deck (investing no money) going against people like me who have been in this game for over a year is going to be extremely tough.
That being said the rule book isn't that complicated. There are a few situations where the rules are funny:
Sylvanas' Deathrattle triggers before Deathrattle: reincarnation. Trading a Carine or Harvest into a Sylvanas means you keep the second phase.
There is no minion damage in this game. This is the hardest one to actually grasp. Example: A +1/+1 minion, a 3/3, has been buffed into a 4/4; however it's taken one point on it health bar. Silencing it will make it a 3/3 again, not a 3/2.
It gets a bit more complicated than that with buffs / silence but the idea is still the same: minion damage does not exist in the games eyes.
Otherwise it's a very fluid game that is pretty easy to pick up. If you want some pointers on starting decks I'm more than happy to help with that.
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Creatures' abilities trigger in the order they were played (which makes the Sylvanas rule an exception to this one). So if you play a Ragnaros and then a Baron Geddon, Ragnaros will trigger first and then Baron.
This is also applied with secrets. If you play a Explosive Trap then a Freezing Trap the Explosive will go off first, then if the creature lives, the Freezing will go off first.
HOWEVER if you play the Freezing Trap first then the Explosive Trap will not activate since it has nothing to activate it. I wish I could explain this better but you've never played the game and I only have game examples so sorry!
I literally only understood the first line. Thanks though, I might get into it anyway.
All those lines will make sense in less than a week of playing. I didn't mean to tell you not to: it's a very fun game and I started for free too and it's great!
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Matthew is really making it harder going into niche rules you'll only encounter very later in higher ranked games. And by that time it'll most likely be intuitive for you. Don't get too put off by that.
I have near zero TCG experience, and yet this game was fluid enough to pick up, Blizzard has done a very good job of making a game so grounded in a very basic and a fundamental ruleset.
Sure you'll have a hard time against older players with better cards but that's the law in any F2P/TGC game ever. But the fact that losing in this game has zero penalty and a W/L ratio is deemed redundant in your experience makes it really easy for you to have fun without worrying about statistics. Plus there's an extremely active unranked mode where you can grind for quests and gold without any undue worries in your own time, the game in no way pressures you. Like really. There aren't any silly "win streak" or "domination" achievement forcing you to be consistently play a high level game.
And of course there's the random draw arena mode where you're pitched on a level ground with all players around the world regardless of their collection size.
I can only give you my example... I have a very limited collection and have never spent a dime on the game and am relatively new... (only 2 months old)
but despite that using a completely f2p deck with no legendaries and one hard earned epic I'm at rank 14 atm.... and climbing.
Matthew is really making it harder going into niche rules you'll only encounter very later in higher ranked games. And by that time it'll most likely be intuitive for you. Don't get too put off by that.
I have near zero TCG experience, and yet this game was fluid enough to pick up, Blizzard has done a very good job of making a game so grounded in a very basic and a fundamental ruleset.
Sure you'll have a hard time against older players with better cards but that's the law in any F2P/TGC game ever. But the fact that losing in this game has zero penalty and a W/L ratio is deemed redundant in your experience makes it really easy for you to have fun without worrying about statistics. Plus there's an extremely active unranked mode where you can grind for quests and gold without any undue worries in your own time, the game in no way pressures you. Like really. There aren't any silly "win streak" or "domination" achievement forcing you to be consistently play a high level game.
And of course there's the random draw arena mode where you're pitched on a level ground with all players around the world regardless of their collection size.
I can only give you my example... I have a very limited collection and have never spent a dime on the game and am relatively new... (only 2 months old)
but despite that using a completely f2p deck with no legendaries and one hard earned epic I'm at rank 14 atm.... and climbing.
For me, it's because I'm used to a shorter timer and having to make moves in a timely manner; play slow, even if unintentionally in just about any competitive TCG and you can get penalized for it.
Now I agree there are some circumstances that could warrant maybe a minute to put in a complex combo, but your basic move shouldn't take more than 30 seconds. The majority of people that slow play are pricks that want you to d/c out of annoyance for a free win or people with bad connections that shouldn't be playing anyways. So if they're hitting the rope countdown constantly, they should be penalized at least either in the form of life loss (I think -10 is a nice harsh number to discourage stalling), card loss (-5 cards and that's less options they have and are closer to decking out for life loss), or taking away a mana crystal or two (so their setups are a lot slower).
Now I agree there are some circumstances that could warrant maybe a minute to put in a complex combo, but your basic move shouldn't take more than 30 seconds. The majority of people that slow play are pricks that want you to d/c out of annoyance for a free win or people with bad connections that shouldn't be playing anyways. So if they're hitting the rope countdown constantly, they should be penalized at least either in the form of life loss (I think -10 is a nice harsh number to discourage stalling), card loss (-5 cards and that's less options they have and are closer to decking out for life loss), or taking away a mana crystal or two (so their setups are a lot slower).
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Loatheb https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/490179226201382912/photo/1
I just crafted my first Preparation yesterday - soon enough Miracle Rogue will be mediocre at best - Loatheb just counters Miracle by itself ;_;
Loatheb https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/490179226201382912/photo/1
I just crafted my first Preparation yesterday - soon enough Miracle Rogue will be mediocre at best - Loatheb just counters Miracle by itself ;_;
Joke's on you, you shouldn't craft anything until you have all the dust for the cards you need.
Loatheb will be the new auto-include imo, all upside, its actually awesome in zoo, but so good in every deck. Even makes a play like Swipe either a full turn play or totally unplayable. Also Miracle Rogue will still be good, its still just a one of card that effects only one turn. No doubt its super strong though.
Also deathrattle mechanics (order and stuff) are getting tweaked in Naxx update.
Also deathrattle mechanics (order and stuff) are getting tweaked in Naxx update.
Pretty sure they've said that it will indeed be broken.