I traded for a shiny latios recently so I was just curious is all :P
for pidgeo specifically I think they'll possibly increase the move pool, very long shot that they give +70 to sp attack and focus blast tbh
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Interesting point. So it looks like Beedrill will be one of those megas that are forced to run Protect. Too bad, because the way things are now, it already has six viable moves (X-Scissor, U-Turn, Poison Jab, Drill Run, Knock Off and Swords Dance) and it'll probably be able to run only three of them, giving up either on coverage or a boosting move. But hey, it's Beedrill. And while I'd enjoy seeing stuff like Beedrill and Pidgeot getting more than 100 BST boost, it would be cheap and set a dangerous precedent. Not to mention that a mega is there to exploit a pokémon's potential and not to make everything competitively viable, so I really hope they won't change the boost obtained by mega evolving. If they really want to make a mega powerful, they can just pick a strategic ability like they did with Mawile.
The more I look at mega Beedrill, the more I appreciate its design. It's one of the few pokémon that looks better after mega-evolving. I still don't approve of giving something like Beedrill a mega evolution, at least not in the Hoenn's remakes, but I've got to admit GF did a great job on this one.
Edit: Just like mega Pidgeot reminds of Braviary, mega Beedrill has a slight resemblance to Escavalier. Guys, we need to start sending ideas to GF now!
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Technically he shares that niche with Tornadus, but with no guard it essentially makes him a fairly more reliable Tornadus. What matters now though is the stat distribution, how more SpA he'll get and where the remaining stats go. Otherwise, I just see him as Tornadus 2.0
I was also talking in terms of comparisons with his fellow regional birds and such but yeah I get ya.
Mega Pidgeot needs at least +87 in Special Attack to hit about as hard as Life Orb Tornadus-T, which is kinda unfortunate, and with a likely lower Speed, Mega Pidgeot would rather stay in the lower tiers in which Tornadus and Moltres are the only notable competition.
That said, if it gets great inaccurate moves, then it being worthwhile in OU would not be farfetched...
That said, if it gets great inaccurate moves, then it being worthwhile in OU would not be farfetched...
Tornadus is a bird, a fairly ugly one, but yeah Pidgeot just didn't stand out as anything special ability or movepool wise, he was just kind of in between. Now Beedrill... well GF has a lot of making up to do with their bug types, which as of late have been improving. At least with U-Turn he has a fairly good chance of MEvoing without issue.
If butterfree does not get a mega now I'll be sad. I'd hoped from the beginning of Megas that an early bug would get a mega. Beedrill got one. Now give some love to some of the better early bugs.
Pokemon: Mega Latios & Latias
Type: Dragon/Psychic
Ability: Levitate
M-Latios Stats: 80/130/100/160/120/110//700
M-Latias Stats: 80/100/120/140/150/110//700
Opinion:
Oh Mega Latios and Mega Latias. I remember when they were discovered and someone made a fake "reveal" of them which got everyone super excited until someone found their REAL stats and found that only their stats increases slightly. Good times, good times.
So yeah, their design. When everyone first saw the they thought it was a mistake, that the game glitched while it was being hacked and brought up Mega Latios's model each time. However on a closer look we realize that the model isn't blue but rather purple and we all realized the had the same model... sort of. They actually aren't as hey have different eye colors: Latios is red and Latias is yellow (same as when they're normal). They also has slightly different flying animations, but I think they're still doing the same movement just at different times. Anyway, what do I think of the design? I don't really know, I don't think there's really anything wrong with the design itself but I do agree it seems odd they aren't colored differently. Previous to the recent CoroCoro reveal I had a small discussion with the user Yveltal about this:
I also brought up this was similar to the concept of yin and yang, each of them being one half of a complete whole. So I guess from those viewpoints it makes perfect sense for them to look similar, of course they're still different as we'll see with their stats.
They keep being Dragon/Psychic and keep their Ability Levitate so no reason to talk about that any further unless you want to dream how their false type and Ability changes would have made them amazing/broken/amazingly broken.
Stats! Latios keeps to its offensive nature with an excellent Special Attack of 160 and a still good Attack of 130. Latias still plays defensively but has a bit of a kick to it as it has a Special Defense of 150, Defense of 120, and a Special Attack of 140. Not bad, though then we come into some questionable decisions. First, despite being based on jet planes, they don't get any increase to their Speed (which isn't so bad since they still have a Speed of 110, but come on, they're based on JET PLANES!). Also there's a question of why use their Mega Stone when you can use the Soul Dew to technically increase their stats even further then their Mega Forms. The Soul Dew increases their Special stats by 50% so with that we get the following results:
SD Latias: 80/90/80/195/165/110//720
SD Latios: 80/80/90/165/195/110//720
Yeah, they pretty much get a BST that's equal to ARCEUS. And being they're mainly Special attackers anyway, their Physical stats not increasing is no big loss as even SD Latias hits harder than Mega Latios AND it has a Special Defense that makes Blissey jealous of (though not quite Chansey if its holding an Eviolite, though even then Chansey would probably be jealous it can fight back). Of course all this could be why Soul Dew is banned while their Mega Forms are balanced so that they can be used without splitting the meta game in two.
So overall I'd say that Mega Latios and Mega Latias were probably intended to be "Soul Dew done right". GameFreak probably felt like they made a mistake with the Soul Dew so used their Mega Forms to show what they sort of wanted it to be like, thus why they don't change types nor Abilities. At least in my opinion. Could be they're also running a bit low on ideas for Mega Forms and Latios and Latias were sadly one of the last few on line, probably where Abomasnow and Slowbro were.
Eon Duo Distribution:
Hold it! We cannot talk about the Eon Duo in ORAS and not talk about how they'll be distributed. Just like in the original Gen III games, Latios will be catchable in Omega Ruby and Latias Alpha Sapphire (yes, you're catching the RED ONE in the BLUE GAME and the BLUE ONE in the RED GAME... now I applause GameFreak's decision to hire people who are colorblind but maybe there are somethings they shouldn't be in charge of...).
However, just like in Gen III, you CAN catch the other one that's the correct color for your game! The Eon Ticket is back and just like before it'll take you to Southern Island where the other member of the Eon Duo is waiting. Next CoroCoro will have a serial code for the Eon Ticket, though who knows how everyone else will get it.
Now, it hasn't been mentioned yet how you get their Mega Stones, but being their advertising them I'm going to assume you get their Mega Stone during the game. But the question isn't with the one you can catch in your game but the one you get on Southern Island. In the original games, the one on Southern Island is carrying the Soul Dew. So the question is will it still be carrying the Soul Dew or will it be carrying its Mega Stone (I suppose it can have nothing, but that would be disappointing compared to the original games). We do know Mega Stones can be version exclusive, so I'm going to assume that we're only going to get the Mega Stone of the Eon Duo that's normally catchable while the one on Southern Island will have the Soul Dew, making their Mega Stone version exclusive (otherwise they couldn't force you to buy two games or "encourage" you to trade with others).
Taking Flight:
BUT WAIT! There's more! As if the Eon Duo don't already have enough items relating to them, they get ANOTHER one: the Eon Flute. However it's not a power-up item, instead the Eon Flute summons Latios/Latias and we can hop its back and fly up in the sky (my guess we won't be allowed to catch it until post game like in the original, but we'll make friends with it during the story so we can use this feature). But this isn't just for to travel to places, no, instead you'll be flying in the skies above Hoenn and directing Latios/Latias where to go, to turn, and to speed up!... Which is something Pokemon Ranger: Guardian Signs did first.
However it was a cool feature and nice to see they're bringing it over to the main series. Also you can apparently encounter wild Pokemon while flying through clouds (so in other words Wild Sky Battles, at least they're doing something with it)... which is also something Pokemon Ranger did:
*Sigh* Well at least they're re-using cool ideas. Eitherway it's a nice feature to have and I really liked it in Pokemon Ranger so I can't wait to try it out in the main series AND in 3D! Of course I do have a few questions. After you catch Latios and Latias, if you can use Latias/Latios do you still need to use the Eon Flute? If you do, would you need to have them in your party for it to work? During the battles can you use Latios/Latias even though you technically didn't catch them (during the story)? Well, whatever the answers may be, we still have in last thing to talk about:
Mythical Places:
So in XY you can catch the following Legendary Pokemon: Xerneas (X only) Yveltal (Y only), Zygarde, Legendary Bird, & Mewtwo. So what about the other Legendaries? Well you can transfer them over from your other games... OR catch them all in ORAS! Apparently you can use the Latios/Latias flying feature to get to remote islands or dark clouds called "Mythical Places" where ALL the Legendaries NOT in XY (and I guess originally in the Gen III games) can be found. Now they show Dialga, Palkia, Zekrom, and Reshiram though this list would also include the Legendary Beasts, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Lake Guardians, Giratina, Cresselia, Heatran, Regigigas (or maybe not, I'll explain), Swords of Justice (minus Keldeo), Forces of Nature, & Kyurem. HOWEVER this does not include Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Darkria, Manaphy (& Phione), Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, or Genesect. Those Event Legendaries are classified as Mythical Pokemon. "Wait, aren't the places called Mythical places?" Yes, yes they are, the naming department kind of derped and didn't check to see if they had used the term "mythical" for anything else.
So yeah, that's a LOT of Legendaries to pack in for almost no reason. EXCEPT there is a reason: so you can use them officially! Remember Gen VI prevents you from using Pokemon you didn't catch in that generation in official tournaments, so by letting us catch all the Legendaries here we can use them all once again! I'm guessing it's also going to be a post game thing, unless they're going to let us catch the 580 BST trios early (and maybe some of the 600 BST Pokemon). I'm also going to guess that there is going to be version exclusives going on, especially for the mascot Legendaries. Heck, some trio groups could even be version exclusive!
Eitherway, neat thing to have and pretty much a BIG reason why to get ORAS even more now. Also if they're doing this I'm going to guess they're also going to distribute a lot of the mythical Pokemon too. There's already a usable Celebi but the others not so much. And we'll probably need a copy of ORAS to get these event mythical legendaries so ANOTHER reason why to get ORAS! Geez, you'd think ORAS was going to be the last Pokemon game!
So yeah... when's that demo coming out? I REALLY want to play it now... *start twitching*
Well, I have a few pages of of posts to like/respond too. Seeya in a few posts!
Type: Dragon/Psychic
Ability: Levitate
M-Latios Stats: 80/130/100/160/120/110//700
M-Latias Stats: 80/100/120/140/150/110//700
Opinion:
Oh Mega Latios and Mega Latias. I remember when they were discovered and someone made a fake "reveal" of them which got everyone super excited until someone found their REAL stats and found that only their stats increases slightly. Good times, good times.
So yeah, their design. When everyone first saw the they thought it was a mistake, that the game glitched while it was being hacked and brought up Mega Latios's model each time. However on a closer look we realize that the model isn't blue but rather purple and we all realized the had the same model... sort of. They actually aren't as hey have different eye colors: Latios is red and Latias is yellow (same as when they're normal). They also has slightly different flying animations, but I think they're still doing the same movement just at different times. Anyway, what do I think of the design? I don't really know, I don't think there's really anything wrong with the design itself but I do agree it seems odd they aren't colored differently. Previous to the recent CoroCoro reveal I had a small discussion with the user Yveltal about this:
I also brought up this was similar to the concept of yin and yang, each of them being one half of a complete whole. So I guess from those viewpoints it makes perfect sense for them to look similar, of course they're still different as we'll see with their stats.
They keep being Dragon/Psychic and keep their Ability Levitate so no reason to talk about that any further unless you want to dream how their false type and Ability changes would have made them amazing/broken/amazingly broken.
Stats! Latios keeps to its offensive nature with an excellent Special Attack of 160 and a still good Attack of 130. Latias still plays defensively but has a bit of a kick to it as it has a Special Defense of 150, Defense of 120, and a Special Attack of 140. Not bad, though then we come into some questionable decisions. First, despite being based on jet planes, they don't get any increase to their Speed (which isn't so bad since they still have a Speed of 110, but come on, they're based on JET PLANES!). Also there's a question of why use their Mega Stone when you can use the Soul Dew to technically increase their stats even further then their Mega Forms. The Soul Dew increases their Special stats by 50% so with that we get the following results:
SD Latias: 80/90/80/195/165/110//720
SD Latios: 80/80/90/165/195/110//720
Yeah, they pretty much get a BST that's equal to ARCEUS. And being they're mainly Special attackers anyway, their Physical stats not increasing is no big loss as even SD Latias hits harder than Mega Latios AND it has a Special Defense that makes Blissey jealous of (though not quite Chansey if its holding an Eviolite, though even then Chansey would probably be jealous it can fight back). Of course all this could be why Soul Dew is banned while their Mega Forms are balanced so that they can be used without splitting the meta game in two.
So overall I'd say that Mega Latios and Mega Latias were probably intended to be "Soul Dew done right". GameFreak probably felt like they made a mistake with the Soul Dew so used their Mega Forms to show what they sort of wanted it to be like, thus why they don't change types nor Abilities. At least in my opinion. Could be they're also running a bit low on ideas for Mega Forms and Latios and Latias were sadly one of the last few on line, probably where Abomasnow and Slowbro were.
Eon Duo Distribution:
Hold it! We cannot talk about the Eon Duo in ORAS and not talk about how they'll be distributed. Just like in the original Gen III games, Latios will be catchable in Omega Ruby and Latias Alpha Sapphire (yes, you're catching the RED ONE in the BLUE GAME and the BLUE ONE in the RED GAME... now I applause GameFreak's decision to hire people who are colorblind but maybe there are somethings they shouldn't be in charge of...).
However, just like in Gen III, you CAN catch the other one that's the correct color for your game! The Eon Ticket is back and just like before it'll take you to Southern Island where the other member of the Eon Duo is waiting. Next CoroCoro will have a serial code for the Eon Ticket, though who knows how everyone else will get it.
Now, it hasn't been mentioned yet how you get their Mega Stones, but being their advertising them I'm going to assume you get their Mega Stone during the game. But the question isn't with the one you can catch in your game but the one you get on Southern Island. In the original games, the one on Southern Island is carrying the Soul Dew. So the question is will it still be carrying the Soul Dew or will it be carrying its Mega Stone (I suppose it can have nothing, but that would be disappointing compared to the original games). We do know Mega Stones can be version exclusive, so I'm going to assume that we're only going to get the Mega Stone of the Eon Duo that's normally catchable while the one on Southern Island will have the Soul Dew, making their Mega Stone version exclusive (otherwise they couldn't force you to buy two games or "encourage" you to trade with others).
Taking Flight:
BUT WAIT! There's more! As if the Eon Duo don't already have enough items relating to them, they get ANOTHER one: the Eon Flute. However it's not a power-up item, instead the Eon Flute summons Latios/Latias and we can hop its back and fly up in the sky (my guess we won't be allowed to catch it until post game like in the original, but we'll make friends with it during the story so we can use this feature). But this isn't just for to travel to places, no, instead you'll be flying in the skies above Hoenn and directing Latios/Latias where to go, to turn, and to speed up!... Which is something Pokemon Ranger: Guardian Signs did first.
However it was a cool feature and nice to see they're bringing it over to the main series. Also you can apparently encounter wild Pokemon while flying through clouds (so in other words Wild Sky Battles, at least they're doing something with it)... which is also something Pokemon Ranger did:
*Sigh* Well at least they're re-using cool ideas. Eitherway it's a nice feature to have and I really liked it in Pokemon Ranger so I can't wait to try it out in the main series AND in 3D! Of course I do have a few questions. After you catch Latios and Latias, if you can use Latias/Latios do you still need to use the Eon Flute? If you do, would you need to have them in your party for it to work? During the battles can you use Latios/Latias even though you technically didn't catch them (during the story)? Well, whatever the answers may be, we still have in last thing to talk about:
Mythical Places:
So in XY you can catch the following Legendary Pokemon: Xerneas (X only) Yveltal (Y only), Zygarde, Legendary Bird, & Mewtwo. So what about the other Legendaries? Well you can transfer them over from your other games... OR catch them all in ORAS! Apparently you can use the Latios/Latias flying feature to get to remote islands or dark clouds called "Mythical Places" where ALL the Legendaries NOT in XY (and I guess originally in the Gen III games) can be found. Now they show Dialga, Palkia, Zekrom, and Reshiram though this list would also include the Legendary Beasts, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Lake Guardians, Giratina, Cresselia, Heatran, Regigigas (or maybe not, I'll explain), Swords of Justice (minus Keldeo), Forces of Nature, & Kyurem. HOWEVER this does not include Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Darkria, Manaphy (& Phione), Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, or Genesect. Those Event Legendaries are classified as Mythical Pokemon. "Wait, aren't the places called Mythical places?" Yes, yes they are, the naming department kind of derped and didn't check to see if they had used the term "mythical" for anything else.
So yeah, that's a LOT of Legendaries to pack in for almost no reason. EXCEPT there is a reason: so you can use them officially! Remember Gen VI prevents you from using Pokemon you didn't catch in that generation in official tournaments, so by letting us catch all the Legendaries here we can use them all once again! I'm guessing it's also going to be a post game thing, unless they're going to let us catch the 580 BST trios early (and maybe some of the 600 BST Pokemon). I'm also going to guess that there is going to be version exclusives going on, especially for the mascot Legendaries. Heck, some trio groups could even be version exclusive!
Eitherway, neat thing to have and pretty much a BIG reason why to get ORAS even more now. Also if they're doing this I'm going to guess they're also going to distribute a lot of the mythical Pokemon too. There's already a usable Celebi but the others not so much. And we'll probably need a copy of ORAS to get these event mythical legendaries so ANOTHER reason why to get ORAS! Geez, you'd think ORAS was going to be the last Pokemon game!
So yeah... when's that demo coming out? I REALLY want to play it now... *start twitching*
Well, I have a few pages of of posts to like/respond too. Seeya in a few posts!
I really hope I'm not the only one hyped for wild Sky Battles. It's something that I always thought would be a cool idea, and seeing it implemented now makes me happy. Also hyped for finally getting all non-event legendaries in one game (except most likely the Kanto legends that were in XY). Did I mention the fact that you Fly on the Latis to get those legendaries? It's awesome that my favorite Pokemon gets more spotlight time! :D
Sableye is getting a speed drop, at least. Lopunny probably wont because it has 480 BST normally.
That's actually 1 point higher than Pidgeot even after it got a +10 boost in XY which is...unfortunate.
I know that I definitely will not be hyped for Sky Battles, as whoever is going to be my HM slave will probably know fly (and be the only flying type on the team), forcing me to level up the HM slave if it is to have any effect in Sky Battles.
Dude, stop using yellow text. It fucking hurts to read.Pokemon: Mega Latios & Latias
Type: Dragon/Psychic
Ability: Levitate
M-Latios Stats: 80/130/100/160/120/110//700
M-Latias Stats: 80/100/120/140/150/110//700
Opinion:
Oh Mega Latios and Mega Latias. I remember when they were discovered and someone made a fake "reveal" of them which got everyone super excited until someone found their REAL stats and found that only their stats increases slightly. Good times, good times.
So yeah, their design. When everyone first saw the they thought it was a mistake, that the game glitched while it was being hacked and brought up Mega Latios's model each time. However on a closer look we realize that the model isn't blue but rather purple and we all realized the had the same model... sort of. They actually aren't as hey have different eye colors: Latios is red and Latias is yellow (same as when they're normal). They also has slightly different flying animations, but I think they're still doing the same movement just at different times. Anyway, what do I think of the design? I don't really know, I don't think there's really anything wrong with the design itself but I do agree it seems odd they aren't colored differently. Previous to the recent CoroCoro reveal I had a small discussion with the user Yveltal about this:
I also brought up this was similar to the concept of yin and yang, each of them being one half of a complete whole. So I guess from those viewpoints it makes perfect sense for them to look similar, of course they're still different as we'll see with their stats.
They keep being Dragon/Psychic and keep their Ability Levitate so no reason to talk about that any further unless you want to dream how their false type and Ability changes would have made them amazing/broken/amazingly broken.
Stats! Latios keeps to its offensive nature with an excellent Special Attack of 160 and a still good Attack of 130. Latias still plays defensively but has a bit of a kick to it as it has a Special Defense of 150, Defense of 120, and a Special Attack of 140. Not bad, though then we come into some questionable decisions. First, despite being based on jet planes, they don't get any increase to their Speed (which isn't so bad since they still have a Speed of 110, but come on, they're based on JET PLANES!). Also there's a question of why use their Mega Stone when you can use the Soul Dew to technically increase their stats even further then their Mega Forms. The Soul Dew increases their Special stats by 50% so with that we get the following results:
SD Latias: 80/90/80/195/165/110//720
SD Latios: 80/80/90/165/195/110//720
Yeah, they pretty much get a BST that's equal to ARCEUS. And being they're mainly Special attackers anyway, their Physical stats not increasing is no big loss as even SD Latias hits harder than Mega Latios AND it has a Special Defense that makes Blissey jealous of (though not quite Chansey if its holding an Eviolite, though even then Chansey would probably be jealous it can fight back). Of course all this could be why Soul Dew is banned while their Mega Forms are balanced so that they can be used without splitting the meta game in two.
So overall I'd say that Mega Latios and Mega Latias were probably intended to be "Soul Dew done right". GameFreak probably felt like they made a mistake with the Soul Dew so used their Mega Forms to show what they sort of wanted it to be like, thus why they don't change types nor Abilities. At least in my opinion. Could be they're also running a bit low on ideas for Mega Forms and Latios and Latias were sadly one of the last few on line, probably where Abomasnow and Slowbro were.
Eon Duo Distribution:
Hold it! We cannot talk about the Eon Duo in ORAS and not talk about how they'll be distributed. Just like in the original Gen III games, Latios will be catchable in Omega Ruby and Latias Alpha Sapphire (yes, you're catching the RED ONE in the BLUE GAME and the BLUE ONE in the RED GAME... now I applause GameFreak's decision to hire people who are colorblind but maybe there are somethings they shouldn't be in charge of...).
However, just like in Gen III, you CAN catch the other one that's the correct color for your game! The Eon Ticket is back and just like before it'll take you to Southern Island where the other member of the Eon Duo is waiting. Next CoroCoro will have a serial code for the Eon Ticket, though who knows how everyone else will get it.
Now, it hasn't been mentioned yet how you get their Mega Stones, but being their advertising them I'm going to assume you get their Mega Stone during the game. But the question isn't with the one you can catch in your game but the one you get on Southern Island. In the original games, the one on Southern Island is carrying the Soul Dew. So the question is will it still be carrying the Soul Dew or will it be carrying its Mega Stone (I suppose it can have nothing, but that would be disappointing compared to the original games). We do know Mega Stones can be version exclusive, so I'm going to assume that we're only going to get the Mega Stone of the Eon Duo that's normally catchable while the one on Southern Island will have the Soul Dew, making their Mega Stone version exclusive (otherwise they couldn't force you to buy two games or "encourage" you to trade with others).
Taking Flight:
BUT WAIT! There's more! As if the Eon Duo don't already have enough items relating to them, they get ANOTHER one: the Eon Flute. However it's not a power-up item, instead the Eon Flute summons Latios/Latias and we can hop its back and fly up in the sky (my guess we won't be allowed to catch it until post game like in the original, but we'll make friends with it during the story so we can use this feature). But this isn't just for to travel to places, no, instead you'll be flying in the skies above Hoenn and directing Latios/Latias where to go, to turn, and to speed up!... Which is something Pokemon Ranger: Guardian Signs did first.
However it was a cool feature and nice to see they're bringing it over to the main series. Also you can apparently encounter wild Pokemon while flying through clouds (so in other words Wild Sky Battles, at least they're doing something with it)... which is also something Pokemon Ranger did:
*Sigh* Well at least they're re-using cool ideas. Eitherway it's a nice feature to have and I really liked it in Pokemon Ranger so I can't wait to try it out in the main series AND in 3D! Of course I do have a few questions. After you catch Latios and Latias, if you can use Latias/Latios do you still need to use the Eon Flute? If you do, would you need to have them in your party for it to work? During the battles can you use Latios/Latias even though you technically didn't catch them (during the story)? Well, whatever the answers may be, we still have in last thing to talk about:
Mythical Places:
So in XY you can catch the following Legendary Pokemon: Xerneas (X only) Yveltal (Y only), Zygarde, Legendary Bird, & Mewtwo. So what about the other Legendaries? Well you can transfer them over from your other games... OR catch them all in ORAS! Apparently you can use the Latios/Latias flying feature to get to remote islands or dark clouds called "Mythical Places" where ALL the Legendaries NOT in XY (and I guess originally in the Gen III games) can be found. Now they show Dialga, Palkia, Zekrom, and Reshiram though this list would also include the Legendary Beasts, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Lake Guardians, Giratina, Cresselia, Heatran, Regigigas (or maybe not, I'll explain), Swords of Justice (minus Keldeo), Forces of Nature, & Kyurem. HOWEVER this does not include Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Darkria, Manaphy (& Phione), Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, or Genesect. Those Event Legendaries are classified as Mythical Pokemon. "Wait, aren't the places called Mythical places?" Yes, yes they are, the naming department kind of derped and didn't check to see if they had used the term "mythical" for anything else.
So yeah, that's a LOT of Legendaries to pack in for almost no reason. EXCEPT there is a reason: so you can use them officially! Remember Gen VI prevents you from using Pokemon you didn't catch in that generation in official tournaments, so by letting us catch all the Legendaries here we can use them all once again! I'm guessing it's also going to be a post game thing, unless they're going to let us catch the 580 BST trios early (and maybe some of the 600 BST Pokemon). I'm also going to guess that there is going to be version exclusives going on, especially for the mascot Legendaries. Heck, some trio groups could even be version exclusive!
Eitherway, neat thing to have and pretty much a BIG reason why to get ORAS even more now. Also if they're doing this I'm going to guess they're also going to distribute a lot of the mythical Pokemon too. There's already a usable Celebi but the others not so much. And we'll probably need a copy of ORAS to get these event mythical legendaries so ANOTHER reason why to get ORAS! Geez, you'd think ORAS was going to be the last Pokemon game!
So yeah... when's that demo coming out? I REALLY want to play it now... *start twitching*
Well, I have a few pages of of posts to like/respond too. Seeya in a few posts!
There's a mistake right here, and it's that it does not boost the base stat, but the effective stat. Supposing both special stats are at 252 EVs:
Latios - 80/90/80/220/190/110
Latias - 80/80/90/190/220/110
And if both are without EVs:
Latios - 80/90/80/204/174/110
Latias - 80/80/90/174/204/110
So unless one needs those higher defenses, Latios will never resort to its Mega Stone. Latias can find some usefulness in it, but it's difficult given the other awesome-performing Megas
I'd be extremely surprised if you couldn't use the Lati you're flying on to fight.
When will you get Lati@s? Probably late-game.
I'm guessing same as the originals, post-game.
Yes, and they're also necessary for wild sky battles.
I was saying for regular sky battles with a trainter.
Oh.
... 'kay then? I mean I don't see where they'd be added in Hoenn... and this would seem more a complaint with XY considering this isn't the game that introduced sky battles but okay.
Never used Pidgoet or Beedrill, sad to say. My Pidgey pretty much remained a Pidgey as it was a Fly slave and I may have caught a Weedle but never used it. Maybe now that they're getting a Mega Evolution I hould give them a try.
*Sigh* Probably so they can offer a Shiny Legendary as an Event Pokemon and, since its Shiny, they don't have to give it anything else.
Intern: Okay! We're giving away a normal Legendary as an event. What can we do to make it special?
Manager: Make it shiny!
Intern: Ooh, good idea! What else?
Manager: What do you mean what else?
Intern: Well it being Shiny is nice, but that's just cosmetic. Being an Event Pokemon we could give it a special move or its Hidden Ability!
Manager: Hmm... NAH! It being shiny will be fine.
Intern: Oh, but what would make it different from a Shiny someone just reset until they RNGed one?
Manager: They can't, we shiny lock Legendaries now.
Intern: WHAT?! Why?
Manager: So we can offer them as Event Pokemon, like now.
Intern: So you artificially prevent players from doing something they can do for other Pokemon and in older generations just so you could later have the OPTION of possibly giving them out as event Pokemon without needing to do anything else special with them that'll make a difference in the way they play?
Manager: ... I don't like your tone, you make it sound like its a jerk thing to do.
BECAUSE IT IS! Let us have have the option of getting a Shiny Legendary and make your Event Pokemon worth a damn getting!
With them being a gen bird and gen bug, they could be testing the waters for later Mega com mons.
Yeah, its especially odd since Gen V has the MOST Pokemon released for it with none being evolutions of a previous generation Pokemon! You'd think a batch of them would have a Mega by now.
But Beedrill doesn't have a horn. I was kind of hoping they'd find a way to make Fell Stinger a possible option to use, but there's still no reason to use it over X-Scissor and/or U-Turn as Bug-type STABs.
Well Swellow and Chatot can learn Boomburst as an Egg Move so I don't see why they couldn't make it an Egg Move as well (they're not going to have it learn it naturally). And before you bring up Pidgeot's Pokedex description, if it meant anything it would meant that Pidgeot would get Sonic Boom than Boomburst.
Yeah, that's another Ability that Mega Pidgeot possibly could have gotten. It sort of seems like they made that Ability sort of for all the gen birds.
Meh, I think they should make Staraptor Flying/Fighting and give it Adaptability. If their going to be exclusive with Gale Wings, I'd give it to Mega Unfezant who I'd make a pure Flying-type.
There's still the demo's Mega Pokemon, and they're not going to show us all the Mega Pokemon ORAS has. There's still a strong chance for it to get a Mega Evolution, a "major" NPC does use it and you do battle him, Aarune.
Knowing Gamefreak they'd probably change it into a Special Attacker. Actually it looks like they tried to as in Gen VI they increased its Specail Attack by 10 points. You think I'm crazy complaining about how they change a Pokemon from using one stat to relying on another...
Ah, but I have yet another piece of evidence that they ARE going to update the Pokedex!
In the drawn pic featuring the Eon Duo's flying mechanic, one of the Pokemon you see is Murkrow. Murkrow is not in the Hoenn Dex. Why would they put a Murkrow in the picture if they're not catchable in the game, especially when they have Taillow and Wingull they can use? In addition, now that there's this flying mechanic, I'm adding onto my prediction:
They will not only expand the Hoenn dex, but also split it into THREE categories: Land, Sea, and Sky.
You're right about the one side of its crest being yellow, though the red trail still switched sides.
Fine, I'll use mustard yellow from now on.
Ah, I see. My mistake.
Mega Beedrill was certainly an m-evo that I didn't see coming, but not something that wasn't undeserved! Kinda about time, I feel the poor bug was super underrated anyway, so the boost is certainly welcome. I'm unsure about how I feel about M-Pidgeot though. Design-wise, it's certainly a slight-step up but I'm still rather...undecided, I suppose? Certainly a strange choice for a mega-evolution, but whatever. Stranger even that they chose to raise it's SpA rather than a significant boost in Attack or Speed, but that's just me.
With Talonflame and Staraptor existing, I think going the special attacker route was the more wise decision, to be honest.
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