ORAS General Discussion - Mark 2 - Spoilers Inside

[Aura Flare Riolu]

Sleep Talk is already TM88 though.

Look at Dark Pulse though.

Castform also has 3.08 which it wouldn't usually

Well moveset changes. Plus Castform has Hurricane too.

 

[*Trev*]

3.08 perhaps?

mandibuzz / braviary / hydreigon get it

edit: seems to make sense so far

edit 2: most flying related pokemon get it, as well as shiftry

I found 3.08 to be tailwind. I thought about it maybe being Defog instead, but skunktank gets Defog and not 3.08, so I am positive 3.08 is tailwind. Thought Defog might be 3.13, but lumineon gets Defog and not 3.13. Those were the only 2 that could of been Defog possibly according to my research, so looks like no Defog tutor :(

 

[Aura Flare Riolu]

No Defog Tutor? :(

 

[Stellar]

We're thinking the last two are Shock Wave and Sleep Talk respectively.

 

[Whatevs4]

BTW, the only ones we still need are 3.15 and 4.14. Don't bother figuring out the others atm.

Heal Bell is 3.07.

But Articuno doesn't get 3.07 and it does get Heal Bell. What are the chances they nixed this compatibility?

 

[Stellar]

But Articuno doesn't get 3.07 and it does get Heal Bell. What are the chances they nixed this compatibility?

Heal Bell was an XD move afaik. Dragonite doesn't get Heal Bell via Tutor either.

 

[*Trev*]

But Articuno doesn't get 3.07 and it does get Heal Bell. What are the chances they nixed this compatibility?

Articuno gets heal bell through XD Gale of Darkness exclusively. Doesn't learn it from move tutors.

 

[Flare Blitzle]

Look at Dark Pulse though.

That wasn't my point. You said "hello priority RestTalk" when Klefki has had Sleep Talk for the past year.

 

[Stellar]

Full list of (likely) tutors: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/oras-research-thread.3519780/

 

[Aura Flare Riolu]

That wasn't my point. You said "hello priority RestTalk" when Klefki has had Sleep Talk for the past year.

Yeah I didn't notice it earlier.

 

[Kefkakion]

2:13 could perhaps be torment? Not too sure though

 

[flargananddingle]

No body slam :(

 

[*Trev*]

Well, glad I was able to help with tailwind and outrage :). Water pulse and shock wave are actually pretty nice for you special technician Persian users out there ;) (I'm all alone, aren't I lol).

 

[Stellar]

We're not sure about 3.14. We thought it was Seismic Toss, but there are some discrepancies. Can someone check for Focus Punch?

 

[Jirachee]

We're not sure about 3.14. We thought it was Seismic Toss, but there are some discrepancies. Can someone check for Focus Punch?

I doubt 2.13 is Dark Pulse. Blastoise doesn't get it, but it learns the TM.

 

[Don Honchkrorleone]

What if 4:14 is Curse? It's a move every mon got once as a TM

 

[Aura Flare Riolu]

We're not sure about 3.14. We thought it was Seismic Toss, but there are some discrepancies. Can someone check for Focus Punch?

Focus Punch is possible. Palkia and Darkrai get it.

 

[Stellar]

I doubt 2.13 is Dark Pulse. Blastoise doesn't get it, but it learns the TM.

Read my earlier post. Grimer oddly learns Dark Pulse, but Muk doesn't. This matches up with the tutor list. It's more likely that they imported past-gen tutor lists from BW2 and forgot to add Dark Pulse as a Blastoise tutor (it didn't learn it in BW2).

 

[Khaelis]

I'm starting to think Mega Hoopa isn't actually Mega Hoopa, but a forme because of a video TyranitarTube uploaded and it makes a lot of sense.

 

[*Trev*]

We're not sure about 3.14. We thought it was Seismic Toss, but there are some discrepancies. Can someone check for Focus Punch?

It looks like focus punch. Sneasel/Weavile gets Focus Punch and 3.14, but no seismic toss.

Edit: yeah, it's focus punch.

 

[TheTraininator]

We're not sure about 3.14. We thought it was Seismic Toss, but there are some discrepancies. Can someone check for Focus Punch?

Exploud does not learn 3.14, despite being able to learn Seismic Toss.

EDIT: And Dragonite does learn it, and he can learn Focus Punch and not Seismic Toss. It's Focus Punch.

 

[Aura Flare Riolu]

Armaldo doesn't learn Focus Punch but does get Seismic Toss. It doesn't get 3.14, it's Focus Punch!

 

[JebusChrist]

aww yeah SubPunch Mawile is now easy to get

 

[Stellar]

Focus Punch is seeming like the obvious answer. The last 3 tutors are Focus Punch, Shock Wave, and Water Pulse, which are all TMs from RSE that got dropped.

 

[TheTraininator]

A Focus Punch tutor is great because I know of sooooo many times where a Pokemon wanted the move but I couldn't get it because I would have to breed for it in gen 4.