Although I agree Mega Pidgeot is underwhelming, I think people are being too harsh on it. It might not be amazing, but the fact that it's a MEvo doesn't mean it has to be. It definitely does seem worth using and not a total liability as people are making it out to be.
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Other ORAS Mega Speculation Thread (NO talk about potential bans NOR Aegislash)
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Mega Pidgeot is one of the fastest defoggers in the game and has useable bulk with some solid 2 move coverage in hurricane + heat wave allowing it to run roost as well. It won't be great, but let's not start acting like it doesn't at least have an interesting niche in UU.
So, ASSUMING we don't immediately ban Slowbro, how will it replacing MVenusaur as the main defensive mega affect stall?
Yeah. Not even adamant mega beedrill can OHKO with an adaptability boosted base 150 attack x-scissor, in fact it's not even close to an OHKO. Does around 60 max.
Mega slowbro is the ultimate physical wall.
Less prone to birdspam, will have a wall and potentail set up sweeper all in one so it can consolidate roles for the team. Walls a bunch of physical attackers and isn't doodoo like M-Aggron or at least judging from what I'm seeing it won't be. Potential to improve bulk with Scald burns, more reliable recovery since it isn't effected by common weather like rain and sand unlike Synthesis. Can actually choose some better coverage unlike M-Venusaur who kind of just gets walled by the same things over and over. Tbh I think M-Slowbro will be great if you don't need that glue to handle stuff like Azumarill for example. Slow as hell though, no pun intended, so that might be an annoying aspect sometimes against some more offensive teams. Having a solid water resist in the form of something so beefy is always nice as well.
Edit: Oh and Slack Off has more PP so it doesn't get PP stalled as quick unlike M-Venu with Synthesis.
mega venu hasn't been the main mega on stall for a while, at least not that I can tell. This thing will form a brutal stall core with Chesnaught
It's still used on a good amount of high level teams but yeah as far as stall goes come ORAS it'll probably just end up being M-Altaria, M-Slowbro, M-Sableye as the primary stall mons at the very least for a decent month or so.
ice beam is better for shit like chesnaught and dragonite and still hits skarm decently if invested, altho if it were me I'd have Swamp paired up with something like Raikou to handle the likes of Skarm/Gyara
252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 80 Def Beedrill: 280-331 (103.3 - 122.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
"Better". It still gets OHKOed by banded Scizor's Bullet Punch. But band is really powerful, so there's always this:
252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 80 Def Beedrill: 208-246 (76.7 - 90.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
And LO Scizor does more damage than Mega Scizor, so that calc would be kind of redundant.
You would rather invest in it's usable (for a hit) SpDef or HP to live stuff like this: 252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 80 SpD Beedrill: 218-257 (80.4 - 94.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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252+ SpA Sceptile Hidden Power Fire vs. 0 HP / 80 SpD Beedrill: 170-202 (62.7 - 74.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Yeah and Buttefree exists but you don't see me suggesting Butterfree + Magnezone over M-Pinsir + Magnezone. lol. Between the fine lines friend.
While the +2 seems very nice, it is still a low powered move, even with Adaptability and 150 base atk user. And personally, I prefer power over effect most of the time. as with Mega Beedrill having a horrible defensive typing and terrible defense stats, power is much needed as anything that can take Fell Stinger can probably OHKO.
And Adamant on Glalie is to insure a lot of OHKOs with Explosion.
How could a core exist with one of the Pokemon unable to be played competitively yet?
Sorry for double post.
I ran some calcs this morning. Both Mega Luke and Mega Mawile need a SD to even 2 HKO it. They both risk getting neutered in the process.
A special M luke MIGHT get the job done though, I'd have to check.
p sure seismitoad has been released
Mega Luke can only 3HKO specially defensive M-Slowbro.
Think of Fell Stinger like Power-up Punch on Mega Kanga - a nice move to pick off weakened foes and gain +2 attack in the process.
252 Atk Adaptability Mega Beedrill Fell Stinger vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 204-244 (71.3 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Adaptability Mega Beedrill Fell Stinger vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Latios: 180-212 (59.6 - 70.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
A couple of turns of Life Orb recoil/hazards and these two are OHKO'd. It's still a gimmick, but when it works, it'll work well.
Other then the obviously broken megas, the ones I'm looking forward to trying out the most in OU are Beedril and Sceptile. Beedril and Magnezone makes for a nice volturn core. Play around with volt turn until you get something in fell stinger range then proceed to murder everything.
Also for some reason I think that some mega that no one expects to be OP will wind up in Ubers. So many new toys to play with.
Also for some reason I think that some mega that no one expects to be OP will wind up in Ubers. So many new toys to play with.
Yeah, I plan on using Mega Beedrill on one of my Volt-Turn Teams because he hits hard and runs.
I just saw calcs that Fell Stinger 2HKO's some offensive OU Pokemon.
Hello? Definitely trying that out now.
Spam U-Turn and Poison Jab anything that you can KO and then Fell Stringer for the x2, lol, Beedrill will be fun to use.
I predict him to be B+ in OU just cause.
The only con is that he takes up your Mega Spot, but it might be worth it.
But my only wish is that Mega Sceptile got U-Turn so he can be a hit and run Pokemon.
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