Other Pokemon: Smogon Version OU [Route 4]

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SparksBlade said:
As for Lucario, i've been thinking hard. Has there ever been a Pokemon that's used by 2 different gym leaders of 2 different types. I say this 'cos Lucario is good as a fighting, it won't reach its potential till later on(Steel-type gym). We really need to demonstrate either Swords Dance or Nasty Plot on it. That being said, it's just my opinion and open to debate/rejection.
Do we have a special hitter that can hit EvioDurr? I can't remember anything.
And i say we vote on whether we want Poison Heal Breloom or Technician Breloom.
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I don't see why we can't have lucario be used later on in a different gym. Depending on how much later though, we already have heatran, ferrothorn, skarm, zone and mega aggron for viable steel types, so it's not like lucario is even going to be a shoe-in for the eventual steel gym (if we even decide to have one in the first place).

As far as breloom goes, I for one vote for technoloom, but I can make a poison heal loom too (I'll probably go with sub-punch if that happens or something).
 
Alright i think i've another idea for a steel type gym(if we have one), hopefully i'll remember it till then. What're the viably moves that Breloom can have around Lv.32(level-up, egg moves, tutor, tm w/e way)
 
SparksBlade said:
Alright i think i've another idea for a steel type gym(if we have one), hopefully i'll remember it till then. What're the viably moves that Breloom can have around Lv.32(level-up, egg moves, tutor, tm w/e way)
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I actually updated the team (again) and added the following breloom set

Breloom @ Coba Berry
Ability: Technician
Level: 32
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Bullet Seed
- Mach Punch
- Rock Tomb
- Sludge Bomb

mostly TM stuff. Random-ass sludge bomb cuz **** tangela/tangrowth. I could've done HP flying or some other gimmicky thing instead cuz technician allows for that kind of garbage, but sludge bomb made more sense at the time even if it is a worse move.
 
I guess we need some trainers as well. Proposing this as one of the trainers in the Power section.

Name: Black Belt Hulk

Before battle: The bulkier I am, the harder you fall!

After battle: Gustav has taught me the value of bulk, but thanks to you, I now understand his lessons about speed too.

Mienfoo @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 29
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Bulk Up
- Fake Out
- Force Palm
- Baton Pass

Timburr @ Eviolite
Ability: Guts
Level: 28
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Bulk Up
- Wake-Up Slap
- Mach Punch
- Ice Punch

Diggersby @ Leftovers
Ability: Huge Power
Level: 26
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Double Kick
- Bulldoze
- Take Down
- Bulk Up
 
That's nice fourth! Remember y'all, still got to work on the town, trainers in gym. Who lives here and who throws stones at you? Lets find out!
 
Fourth Inversion said:
I guess we need some trainers as well. Proposing this as one of the trainers in the Power section.

Name: Black Belt Hulk

Before battle: The bulkier I am, the harder you fall!

After battle: Gustav has taught me the value of bulk, but thanks to you, I now understand his lessons about speed too.

Mienfoo @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 29
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Bulk Up
- Fake Out
- Force Palm
- Baton Pass

Timburr @ Eviolite
Ability: Guts
Level: 28
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Bulk Up
- Wake-Up Slap
- Mach Punch
- Ice Punch

Diggersby @ Leftovers
Ability: Huge Power
Level: 26
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Double Kick
- Bulldoze
- Take Down
- Bulk Up
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Isn't mienfoo naturally fast. And I say it's time every trainer had 6 mons. Maybe add machoke, hawlucha(if it learns bulk up and some usable moves), and another fighting type, if we have one on the viability list.
 
Salemance said:
That's nice fourth! Remember y'all, still got to work on the town, trainers in gym. Who lives here and who throws stones at you? Lets find out!
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I think I'll cook something to introduce zarel in this town(NOBODY TAG ZAREL HE'S TOO BUSY EVEN WITHOUT YOUR HELP) if everyone agrees. Could also cook up some NPCs but they come randomly to mind so not sure.
 
SparksBlade said:
Isn't mienfoo naturally fast. And I say it's time every trainer had 6 mons. Maybe add machoke, hawlucha(if it learns bulk up and some usable moves), and another fighting type, if we have one on the viability list.
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That doesn't stop people from trying bulkier sets involving sub and drain punch. It's an occasional thing in UU.
 
WebBowser said:
That doesn't stop people from trying bulkier sets involving sub and drain punch. It's an occasional thing in UU.
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Is it good? I dunno i don't uu, but if it is, you've my thumbs for it. Also, just looked at the new viability list, and I think chesnaught's pre evo can be used here. Also, will her across be too broken atm.I would like you you consider it for either a gym trainer or the leader.
 
SparksBlade said:
Is it good? I dunno i don't uu, but if it is, you've my thumbs for it. Also, just looked at the new viability list, and I think chesnaught's pre evo can be used here. Also, will her across be too broken atm.I would like you you consider it for either a gym trainer or the leader.
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It's not particularly good, but it's on par with most of the sets our trainers in Smog Smog have been using so far. I wouldn't worry about the viability of specific sets until later.

I personally think hera may still be a bit much for this point of the game, but maybe not. I mean, we have fully evolved mons by now, so I wouldn't dismiss it outright. Chesnaught's preevo could totally be used here though.
 
Sorry if this has been asked before, but why is this thread located on the OU Competitive forum if it is a joke/fan fiction type thing? It offers nothing to the OU Competitive scene.
 
shack said:
Sorry if this has been asked before, but why is this thread located on the OU Competitive forum if it is a joke/fan fiction type thing? It offers nothing to the OU Competitive scene.
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Traffic, first and foremost. Since this does have to do with OU in the sense that this entire game prototype is meant to be a teaching experience embedded in a game, it helps immensely to have many voices give their two cents.

A large aggregation of data that can be parsed through later is a far more useful source of information than a closed group in a significantly less-travelled sub-forum where a project like this may stagnate.
 
So i was debating what we could have in ghe town, and i am curious if i could say a museum here which also functions as a fossil reviver. wouldnt be acceesible till like you get cut or so but was just thinking (will write a proper proposal when i wrap up my projects, just gauging interest atm).
 
Salemance said:
So i was debating what we could have in ghe town, and i am curious if i could say a museum here which also functions as a fossil reviver. wouldnt be acceesible till like you get cut or so but was just thinking (will write a proper proposal when i wrap up my projects, just gauging interest atm).
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Frankly, most fossil mons not named aerodactyl aren't that great anyway (from an in-game perspective that is), so I see little reason not to give the player access to the revival machine now.
 
WebBowser said:
Frankly, most fossil mons not named aerodactyl aren't that great anyway (from an in-game perspective that is), so I see little reason not to give the player access to the revival machine now.
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...but Kabutops D:


And iguess since they were bout second gym in xy and it is bout lvl 30 now. alright then, will see if i can squeeze in the proposal tomorrow.
 
I really do think we should make the player character question their "winning, and winning some more" philosophy, like BW but without a pathetic cop-out (nope, totes evil). How about an N-like character (NOT PART OF TLS though) that uses RarelyUsed Pokémon or so and asks you if you have any compassion at all for these Pokémon?
 
SparksBlade said:
Nobody has said anything about Zarel being introduced here, neither any replies to my post on the same, so i'll just drop it in later
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I liked the post...

Anyway, I'm pretty ambivalent on the exact timing for him to be introduced. On one hand, there's a lot going on in this town already, and Zarel might find this town to be kind of noisy for his super important work anyway. On the other hand, having the player deposit to ???'s PC for such a long time is kind annoying too, so I do kind of like having him in sooner rather then later...

Eh, I think it would still make sense to hold off for the time being.
 
WebBowser said:
I liked the post...

Anyway, I'm pretty ambivalent on the exact timing for him to be introduced. On one hand, there's a lot going on in this town already, and Zarel might find this town to be kind of noisy for his super important work anyway. On the other hand, having the player deposit to ???'s PC for such a long time is kind annoying too, so I do kind of like having him in sooner rather then later...

Eh, I think it would still make sense to hold off for the time being.
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i was thinking of introducing his family, who say that zarel works in another town(your reason fits well, thanks), so you got the name of pc, and yet to meet zarel. I've some questions to ask which i will when post the story
 
OverlordDerp said:
Traffic, first and foremost. Since this does have to do with OU in the sense that this entire game prototype is meant to be a teaching experience embedded in a game, it helps immensely to have many voices give their two cents.

A large aggregation of data that can be parsed through later is a far more useful source of information than a closed group in a significantly less-travelled sub-forum where a project like this may stagnate.
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So it is here so more people look at it? That sounds kind of spammy. From what I've read so far, this thread seems no different than a random person posting a theorymon or fan fiction. I don't get how this helps the OU metagame if it offers nothing to it.
 
shack said:
So it is here so more people look at it? That sounds kind of spammy. From what I've read so far, this thread seems no different than a random person posting a theorymon or fan fiction. I don't get how this helps the OU metagame if it offers nothing to it.
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Just going to repost what Chou said (copy/pasted). Hopefully this will answer your question

What would an in-game Pokemon experience look like when entirely focused on making a Smogon-OU centric experience?

Where the elite four is so insane that you can't beat them without a truly competitive team (imagine Obi's cracked the code to make a god AI for this). Where the gym leaders are also insane (with full teams of 6 bad-ass members), but the whole in-game experience is geared towards helping you raise a truly OU-worthy roster. Where you need to be a true competitive player to actually beat the game-- and the game itself is actually developed to teach what it takes to be a competitive player.
 
Phione said:
I really do think we should make the player character question their "winning, and winning some more" philosophy, like BW but without a pathetic cop-out (nope, totes evil). How about an N-like character (NOT PART OF TLS though) that uses RarelyUsed Pokémon or so and asks you if you have any compassion at all for these Pokémon?
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I actually wanted to comment on this idea. We already have TLS who attacks Smogon for, in their opinion, restricting the meta and removing legitimate competitive strategies because they don't like losing to them, so it would be kind of cool to have someone who attacks Smogon from the other end of the spectrum, questioning why playing pokemon at this level of competitiveness is even worthwhile.

I like it.
 
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