Other Pokemon: Smogon OU Version 2 (Route Nine (After Ice Mountain))

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TLS Grunt
Liepard L50
-Swagger
-Foul Play
-Thunder Wave
-Substitute

Murkrow L48
-Swagger
-Foul Play
-Substitute
-Fly

Klefki L50
-Swagger
-Foul Play
-Thunder Wave
-Spikes

Pretty much shows why SwagPlay was banned. Liepard and Murkrow for unviable reasons and Klefki because it popularized it in the first place. And lol Fly Murkrow
 
I am really sorry in the delay on this. Had a big bonanza for my youngest brother's birthday and sorta side lined me. Will post completed TM comemdium or what i alled it when i get home from caring for my pigs.

In other news, thanks for the Murkrow ForumBeta cause that thing....could be a bit evil. xD
 
Okay got home and posted the list. As you can see it is based on ORAS list and would like to agree that the TM of the gym can be D-Pulse and wouldn't mind a Knock Off tutor made available after beating the gym.
 
no hurry we're all lazy snorlaxes
laxing ourselves on the couch relaxing
ignoring the planning nothing clicking
just tapping our brains with fingers
looking for a slight light so bright
will give us strength to fight, and
get the right sets and set sight
to the next town with a clown
no frown drop down every ounce
will make it it count and produce
a city without any skitty's and it
just ain't shitty my rap ain't flippy
you look skinny need some skinning
and some feeding but the crowd ain't
applauding so i just go stop it
and fold it in the bags for a future
no guns reloading me just recording
for you so i take bow and thank you all
for skimming this now i'll be gone
ik this didn't rhyme
well and sorry for time spent
reading through this
so go back prepare your trainers
for the gym and TLS kids
leave a like if you like it
or get it deleted by some moderator
dont leave it for later

well i got high and all sorry for shitposting, was away and really missed you guys.

Well what we got, i think we need 2-3 gym trainers more, and maybe a couple grunt teams. Do we have the boss team and Uxis' team?
Also, since i'm shit at it, can someone make a rough town map like where's what?
Also Salemance you got mikedec's badge list? What's the badge for this town?
 
SparksBlade said:
no hurry we're all lazy snorlaxes
laxing ourselves on the couch relaxing
ignoring the planning nothing clicking
just tapping our brains with fingers
looking for a slight light so bright
will give us strength to fight, and
get the right sets and set sight
to the next town with a clown
no frown drop down every ounce
will make it it count and produce
a city without any skitty's and it
just ain't shitty my rap ain't flippy
you look skinny need some skinning
and some feeding but the crowd ain't
applauding so i just go stop it
and fold it in the bags for a future
no guns reloading me just recording
for you so i take bow and thank you all
for skimming this now i'll be gone
ik this didn't rhyme
well and sorry for time spent
reading through this
so go back prepare your trainers
for the gym and TLS kids
leave a like if you like it
or get it deleted by some moderator
dont leave it for later

well i got high and all sorry for shitposting, was away and really missed you guys.

Well what we got, i think we need 2-3 gym trainers more, and maybe a couple grunt teams. Do we have the boss team and Uxis' team?
Also, since i'm shit at it, can someone make a rough town map like where's what?
Also Salemance you got mikedec's badge list? What's the badge for this town?
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Tiering Contributor
 
Ight so hate double posting in own thread, but here is a gym trainer:

Dark Acolyte Rick

Pre-Battle Quote: I am a mighty Acolyte of our revered leader. You may have qualmed Luck Sack but you can not qualm me!

Crawdaunt @ Life Orb
Level: 37
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Waterfall
- Aqua Jet
- Super Power

Pangoro @ Choice Scarf
Level: 36
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 132 Spe / 120 HP
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Ice Punch
- Fire Punch
- Drain Punch

Sharpedo @ Life Orb
Level: 35
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Sp Atk
Adamant Nature
- Crunch
- Ice beam
- Waterfall
- Protect

Sableye @ Leftovers
Level: 35
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Sp Def
Bold Nature
- Wil-o-Wisp
- Foul Play
- Recover
- Night Shade

Pawniard @ Focus Sah
Level: 37
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Sucker Punch
- Iron Head
- Stealth Rock
- Low Kick

Azumarill @ Assault Vest
Level: 34
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Adamat Nature
- Aqua Tail
- Double Edge
- Play Rough
- Ice Punch

Mid Battle Quote: Hax!

End Battle Quote: Im parently a tad too simple to use something more than physical attackers at the moment....one day hopefully.
 
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Salemance said:
...Im parently a...
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lel your auto-correct is rekt.
Give krokorok LO/Black Glasses.
for Pangoro use 168 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spe. This allows him to outspeed adamant base 80s, which is pretty good(i did check at Lv.36). For base 90s 132 Spe works, and for base 100s 180 Spe works. All this was done with a neutral Speed nature for Pangoro and base 80s, 90s, and 100s. w/e EVs remain after w/e speed tier you decide on, dump them in HP, cos it's actually got nice HP stat.
 
SparksBlade said:
lel your auto-correct is rekt.
Give krokorok LO/Black Glasses.
for Pangoro use 168 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spe. This allows him to outspeed adamant base 80s, which is pretty good(i did check at Lv.36). For base 90s 132 Spe works, and for base 100s 180 Spe works. All this was done with a neutral Speed nature for Pangoro and base 80s, 90s, and 100s. w/e EVs remain after w/e speed tier you decide on, dump them in HP, cos it's actually got nice HP stat.
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....thats just how i talk.
 
Salemance So I noticed that neither Pangoro nor Krookadile are on the viability rankings thread. Are you sure you want to include them on a gym trainer? These guys are supposed to be a bit better then your average trainer after all(this ofc means that they should have 6 mons). I'll go ahead and suggest a few mons worth considering:

Vullaby: Has an ok attack stat, usable phys movepool, very nice mixed defenses, we can even slap eviolite on it to make it even balkier.

Pawniard: Pretty much THE physical dark attacker of the tier, dunno why he's not already on the team.

Frogidier/Greninja: Has plenty of usable physical sets, and the team could use a fast mon that's not choice locked, also ninjas

Absol: cuz he looks cool

Doublade: Has some nice resists and immunities that would help this team
 
estralita said:
Well, there has been some speculation that Pangoro is going to become viable thanks to the move tutor in ORAS, so I'm fine with that.
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That was my thinking on Goro and i mentally derped on the krok.....again.

Will edit later

Its also just a trainer, didnt want him to have vullaby and pawn really. and idk, just wanted that on his team (probably my bias there. oh well).

Its also one trainer. Plenty of oppurtunities
 
Salemance said:
That was my thinking on Goro and i mentally derped on the krok.....again.

Will edit later

Its also just a trainer, didnt want him to have vullaby and pawn really. and idk, just wanted that on his team (probably my bias there. oh well).

Its also one trainer. Plenty of oppurtunities
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If you suspect that Goro and Krook are good in this meta, then by all means keep them. We'll still want a 6 mon team though because rules and stuff.
 
WebBowser said:
If you suspect that Goro and Krook are good in this meta, then by all means keep them. We'll still want a 6 mon team though because rules and stuff.
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Goro I think will be fine, but krook not so much atm. I was really just thinking of a base for the team there (hence the later edit).
 
The problem with building 6 mon teams is related to what SparksBlade said earlier. Most of the viable dark mons other than the ones the gym leader is already using are only viable in mega form. Sure there's hydreigon, but if we gave him one at this point, it would be way, way underleveled. So I think we are stuck with either giving unviable mons, or non-dark mons. Or using mostly mixes of the same 8 or so pokemon. And I'm honestly not sure what direction we want to go with this.

On an unrelated, random note, since we are (obviously) not including Pokemon Amie because of the boosts it gives, would we make it so Eevee evolves into Sylveon just by knowing a fairy type move?
 
estralita said:
The problem with building 6 mon teams is related to what SparksBlade said earlier. Most of the viable dark mons other than the ones the gym leader is already using are only viable in mega form. Sure there's hydreigon, but if we gave him one at this point, it would be way, way underleveled. So I think we are stuck with either giving unviable mons, or non-dark mons. Or using mostly mixes of the same 8 or so pokemon. And I'm honestly not sure what direction we want to go with this.

On an unrelated, random note, since we are (obviously) not including Pokemon Amie because of the boosts it gives, would we make it so Eevee evolves into Sylveon just by knowing a fairy type move?
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I think that using non-darks is best given our goals. Gym trainers are essentially mini-gym leaders, so it makes sense that they would be carrying wild cards.

And yeah, we'll just have Eevee evolve into Sylveon when it gets a fairy move (not sure how it works with espeon/umbreon, but I have a feeling that XY already figured that out). Imma start writing up the wrap up pretty soon, so be on the lookout for that.
 
@ webrowser. Umbreon and Espeon evolve at night and daytime based on happiness in XY so as assuming we have dayl/night cycle.. getting either wont be a problem. just dont teach em fairy moves.

Anyway when are we moving onto the next route i have an idea for a trainer and i think it would be a good chance to introduce a member of the council and elite 4 to the player (meeting taking place after fighting trainer). Ill explain more later. im on my phone
 
Oh moving on once wrap up hits but it's just a snag ATM cause, well it's Thanksgiving. It will be started before the week is up but till then just relax and enjoy bud and think of those ideas best yah can till time to present.
 
Salemance gave me permission to make a second proposal for this town (@ his profile), so here's a Gym Trainer.

Dark Acolyte Joseph

Pre-battle quote: "You may have defeated Team Luck-Sack, however I am a student of our Lord Uxis. You won't beat me so easily!

Greninja @ Focus Sash
Level: 36
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Extrasensory

Clefable @ Leftovers
Level: 36
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpAtk
Modest Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Moonblast
- Fire Blast
- Thunder Wave

Pawniard @ Focus Sash
Level: 37
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpDef / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Sucker Punch
- Knock Off
- Iron Head

Crawdaunt @ Life Orb
Level: 37
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Waterfall
- Aqua Jet
- Super Power

Doublade @ Eviolite
Level: 38
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpDef
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Shadow Claw
- Iron Head
- Shadow Sneak

Sharpedo @ Life Orb
Level: 38
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Protect

Post-battle quote: If only I had kept my hazards up...

Edit: Changed Sharpedo set to full special at the behest of user SparksBlade.
 
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SoulSapphire said:
Salemance gave me permission to make a second proposal for this town (@ his profile), so here's a Gym Trainer.

Dark Acolyte Joseph

Pre-battle quote: "You may have defeated Team Luck-Sack, however I am a student of our Lord Uxis. You won't beat me so easily!

Greninja @ Focus Sash
Level: 36
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Extrasensory

Clefable @ Leftovers
Level: 36
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpAtk
Modest Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Moonblast
- Fire Blast
- Thunder Wave

Pawniard @ Focus Sash
Level: 37
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpDef / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Sucker Punch
- Knock Off
- Iron Head

Crawdaunt @ Life Orb
Level: 37
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Waterfall
- Aqua Jet
- Super Power

Doublade @ Eviolite
Level: 38
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpDef
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Shadow Claw
- Iron Head
- Shadow Sneak

Sharpedo @ Life Orb
Level: 38
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
Rash Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
- Protect

Post-battle quote: If only I had kept my hazards up...
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on clefable, flamethrower>fire blast cos it misses a lot, and soft boiled>twave
sharpedo should either be completely special or physical, so
Sharpedo @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Ice Fang

Sharpedo @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Protect
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam
 
SparksBlade said:
on clefable, flamethrower>fire blast cos it misses a lot, and soft boiled>twave
sharpedo should either be completely special or physical, so
Sharpedo @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Ice Fang

Sharpedo @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Protect
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam
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Fire Blast is significantly stronger than Flamethrower, and 85% accuracy is still decent. I'm not really sure about Softboiled > Thunder Wave, either works fine.

The point of mixed Sharpedo is to allow it to surprise opponents who expect a fully Physical or Special set. I'm not saying that it's definitely better than going purely Physical or Special, however for the purposes of this Gym trainer, I think it will work fine.
 
SoulSapphire said:
Fire Blast is significantly stronger than Flamethrower, and 85% accuracy is still decent. I'm not really sure about Softboiled > Thunder Wave, either works fine.

The point of mixed Sharpedo is to allow it to surprise opponents who expect a fully Physical or Special set. I'm not saying that it's definitely better than going purely Physical or Special, however for the purposes of this Gym trainer, I think it will work fine.
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the surprise factor will fail cos its special atk isnt high enough, and there's only 4evs in atk, so even after the surprise, it fails to hit hard enough from either side.

Also
Salemance gave me permission to make a second proposal for this town
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you don't need to specifically ask for permission if you're on topic(or somewhat close, that works too)
 
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