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Project Counter that Threat! 21st Week: Snover - Counters Submissions
- Thread starter Yagura
- Start date
Cranidos @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 5
EVs: 236 Atk / 60 SpD / 212 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Thunder Punch
Cranidos can switch into any unboosted attack and outspeed+OHKO (STAB Stone Edge deals 100-134%).
noobs luv me (Aipom) @ Life Orb
Ability: Skill Link
Level: 5
EVs: 76 HP / 196 Atk / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fury Swipes
- Knock Off
- U-turn
- Fake Out
Aipom can come in on any attack and KO Vullaby with Fury Swipes. This is a fun way to KO it since each hit activates Weak Armor.
Vullaby vs. Aipom
160 SpA Vullaby Dark Pulse vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Aipom: 9-12 (39.1 - 52.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
160 SpA Vullaby Air Slash vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Aipom: 9-12 (39.1 - 52.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
160 SpA Vullaby Hidden Power Fighting vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Aipom: 10-14 (43.4 - 60.8%) -- 88.7% chance to 2HKO
EDIT: Vullaby's EV spread was updated, Aipom still works
240 SpA Vullaby Dark Pulse vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Aipom: 10-13 (43.4 - 56.5%) -- 59.4% chance to 2HKO
240 SpA Vullaby Air Slash vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Aipom: 10-13 (43.4 - 56.5%) -- 59.4% chance to 2HKO
240 SpA Vullaby Hidden Power Fighting vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Aipom: 10-14 (43.4 - 60.8%) -- 88.7% chance to 2HKO
Aipom vs. Vullaby
I couldn't really find a way to calc multihit moves plus weak armor, but each hit does more damage thanks to the defense drop, easily taking it out. Tested on PS for damage output, 4 or 5 hits is enough to kill.
160 SpA Vullaby Dark Pulse vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Aipom: 9-12 (39.1 - 52.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
160 SpA Vullaby Air Slash vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Aipom: 9-12 (39.1 - 52.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
160 SpA Vullaby Hidden Power Fighting vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Aipom: 10-14 (43.4 - 60.8%) -- 88.7% chance to 2HKO
EDIT: Vullaby's EV spread was updated, Aipom still works
240 SpA Vullaby Dark Pulse vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Aipom: 10-13 (43.4 - 56.5%) -- 59.4% chance to 2HKO
240 SpA Vullaby Air Slash vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Aipom: 10-13 (43.4 - 56.5%) -- 59.4% chance to 2HKO
240 SpA Vullaby Hidden Power Fighting vs. 76 HP / 0 SpD Aipom: 10-14 (43.4 - 60.8%) -- 88.7% chance to 2HKO
Aipom vs. Vullaby
I couldn't really find a way to calc multihit moves plus weak armor, but each hit does more damage thanks to the defense drop, easily taking it out. Tested on PS for damage output, 4 or 5 hits is enough to kill.
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Porygon @ Eviolite
Ability: Download
Level: 5
EVs: 236 HP / 36 Def / 236 SpA
Modest Nature
- Tri Attack
- Shadow Ball
- Recover
- Hidden Power Fighting / Psychic
Classic Bulky Attacker Porygon. I write calcs and others in few minutes
Ability: Download
Level: 5
EVs: 236 HP / 36 Def / 236 SpA
Modest Nature
- Tri Attack
- Shadow Ball
- Recover
- Hidden Power Fighting / Psychic
Classic Bulky Attacker Porygon. I write calcs and others in few minutes
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+2 240 SpA Vullaby Hidden Power Fighting vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Porygon: 12-16 (46.1 - 61.5%) -- 96.5% chance to 2HKO
(12, 12, 12, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 16)
Switch into Nastyplot then get 2hko'd with that ev spread. Would love to see calcs to disprove this.
You are right, thanks. That's not enought, despite its Download:
+1 236+ SpA Porygon Tri Attack vs. 36 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Vullaby: 13-16 (54.1 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I understand because I was wrong. Because EVs about Nasty Plot Vullaby on damage calculator are all zeros. :) Do you know what is the right way to advise a damage calculator bug?
i love it when there's variety in the voting :/
sparktrain's aipom
sparktrain's aipom
LoboMuzenza
literally the only thing i can vote for
literally the only thing i can vote for
Sparktrain. But ScarfCranidos is a good idea, too.
Sparktrain and his fabulous way to abuse weak armor. A man's gotta admit defeat. Also: Thank you for my only vote.
So this week was literally a failure, idk whose mistake it was but anyways it won't be counting (nice counter btw sparktrain lol), so yeah here is the threat that we'll have instead:
oml so cute
Corphish @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Crabhammer
- Knock Off
- Aqua Jet
- Swords Dance
Corphish @ Eviolite
Level: 5
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Crabhammer
- Knock Off
- Aqua Jet
- Swords Dance
Croagunk @ Eviolite
Ability: Dry Skin
Level: 5
EVs: 52 HP / 116 Def / 188 SpA / 116 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
- Sludge Bomb
- Vacuum Wave
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot
Croagunk resists nicely Knock Off (and a possible superpower as well), and thanks to its ability Dry Skin, water-type moves are inmune and heal it. Nasty Plot croagunk can just come into any Corphish's attack and just take it as a setup fodder.
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