Its current niche is that of a wallbreaker. There's a set in the Smog Dex; it's something like Dark Pulse / Draco Meteor / Flash Cannon / Earth Power or Superpower with a Life Orb. Its viability dropped not only because of the speed creep, but also because of Fairy-Types. It was way easier for Hydreigon to deal with gen V Steel-types. In fact in gen V it was considered uncounterable. However, now Fairies can switch in on both of its otherwise devastating STABs. It's also why no one uses Scarf Hydreigon anymore.
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Don't forget, Hydregion has extremely powerful dual STABs outside of Fairy types now that Steel no longer resists Dark, and it has amazing moves like Superpower, Flash Cannon, Fire Blast, U-Turn and so on. It's got pretty high potential for a wall breaker even with Fairy type Pokemon around.
The Speed creep did hurt it, but it's still pretty good with the right support.
EDIT: wow, this is the second time in two days Sanger has ninja'd me
The Speed creep did hurt it, but it's still pretty good with the right support.
EDIT: wow, this is the second time in two days Sanger has ninja'd me
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Only once unless you're running Harvest or Recycle
Thank you for the answers. One last question -- while I don't want to butt in the suspect thread given my lack of experience, I noticed Mega Houndoom outspeeds Mega Metagross and OHKOs with Fire Blast. Would it be a consistently viable check, considering it gets easy switchins to MM's STABs?
It really depends on the set, but common defensive checks to it are slowbro, Rotom-w, amoonguss, skarmory, ferrothorn, And Alomomola.
Ferrothorn, Skarmory, Mega Venusaur, Rotom-W and Mega Scizor are all good options. Mega Metagross while it's still around.
Mega Scizor, Amoonguss, Chansey, Bronzong, Mega Slowbro, Mega Venusaur, Cresselia, Jirachi, Tangrowth, Celebi
It really depends on the moveset, for M-Diancies lacking HP fire (which most dont), ferrothorn is a good workaround. Scarf lando and Spdef Rachi are decent checks as well. On offensive teams, Scizor is a good choice. Just make sure to scout for coverage.
Mega Venusaur is solid, as well as Mega Scizor if no HP Fire. If you are looking for non mega counters, then Bronzong works.
Basically any ground type that resists Steel, like Mega Camerupt and Swampert.
Edit: fuck me
Try to avoid double posting. Scarf Magnezone doesn't hit as hard as Raikou or Thundurus and Specs Magnezone lacks speed, so if you can defeat Thundurus / Raikou / Mega Manectric you can [most of the time] also beat Magnezone. Counters include: Mega Manectric, Gastrodon, Landorus-T, Hippowdon, Charizard-X and Lanturn, but there are more options than only these because pokemon like Heatran work too. They just don't like to switch in very often because they lack coverage and Specs Volt Switch hurts.
EQ on altaria is nasty for zone, jolly talonflame can outspeed scarfzone. Jirachi is a solid answer to mdiancia, i really don't see how azu is problematic since you have skarm and kube...
EDIT: Derp, I read magnezone instead of magneton, my bad.
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now the team is : http://pastebin.com/sqvWT078
He said his team was weak to magneton, not magnezone. Jolly talonflame can't outspeed scarf magneton, and it can hit 5/6 mons on his team super effectively. It can also trap ferro and jirachi.
Azumarill + magneton together completely rip through that team, so maybe replace conkeldurr with something like gastrodon.
i meant magnezone lol sorry
mh i will see for conkeldurr
maybe something like gastrodon but specially defensive
Perhaps not the answer you're looking for; but I'd recommend going with your gut instinct for the last Pokémon and making an RMT to see what they suggest.
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