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@chickennuggetOk, sorry for the double post and everything, but I was working on a thread about the rain playstyle in the ou forum and saved it as draft, but when i go to create thread I don't get anything, so does that mean I need to start all over? I paused like a few days ago, and now its gone... Is there a way to get it back?
Saved drafts are temporary, to my knowledge, and last only 24 hours before needing to be saved again.
In general, what are the best ways to check the big 3 DDers (charizard/gyarados/altaria)?
Is there any 1 mon that can check them all?
Is there any 1 mon that can check them all?
Unaware Quagsire is the only one I can think that can check the 3 of them
Mega Gyarados has mold breaker :P
Ohh.... true I always forget -.- In dat case i think nothing can check the 3 of them
...Physical Scarf Kyurem-B and Scarf Lando-T? You may need to pack 2 checks to cover them since I don't think there's an omni-check for all 3.
There is not 1 pokemon that defeats DD Altaria, DD Zard-X and DD Gyarados but there are some that checks 2 of the 3. Quagsire defeats Zard-X and Altaria, Power Whip Ferro beats Altaria and Gyarados, Azumarill checks Gyarados and Zard-X pretty well and can force Mega Altaria out, Rhyperior can switch into a Dragon Dance against Mega Altaria, survive the 2HKO and 2HKO it back and it counters Zard-X. Some scarfers can revenge kill them if they run the right coverage. Physical Kyurem-Black hits Zard-X with Dragon Claw / Outrage, Altaria with Ice Beam and Gyarados with Fusion Bolt. Terrakion OHKOs Zard-X with Stone Edge, Gyarados with CC and it hits Altaria for 55-60% with Stone Edge. However, these pokemon can only revengekill so you have to sac something.
Giving them status also works, Thundurus and Klefki prankster T-Wave realy helps because they are now much easier to revenge kill, burning them before they can set up with Scald hax / Rotom-Wash / Non Mega Evolved Sableye et cetera
Giving them status also works, Thundurus and Klefki prankster T-Wave realy helps because they are now much easier to revenge kill, burning them before they can set up with Scald hax / Rotom-Wash / Non Mega Evolved Sableye et cetera
In Suspect Tests and such I keep seeing the argument of "Just because it has no counters doesn't mean it's broken". Can someone explain to me why that is? Whenever someone elaborates on it literally all they say is Gen 5 Hydreigon as an example, I've never seen any actual reasoning given as to why this is a logical statement.
I think the line of thinking is because Gen 5 Hydreigon technically had no Counters (assuming the meaning to be "can always hard switch in to any move and beat it"), but was not broken because other flaws made him easy to check/revenge (awkward speed, only okay bulk, having to pick coverage).
The problem with the assessment is that the lack of checks/counters obviously is not the one thing that dictates a suspect. The argument is logical, but it's not substantial enough to be a credible anti-ban argument.
Gen 5 Hydre had no counters, but when you look at it closely it couldn't do everything at one time. It also had to significantly alter its set to beat certain things, whereas most "broken" things often just change coverage moves or physical/special STABs. iirc, it needed a Band to break Chansey, but that takes away its primary strength as a special attacking Dragon. For everything it dropped there were notable drawbacks. Combine that with its less than stellar speed and you get something that's easy to play around.
Post-Aegi Kyurem-B is another great example. The Special LO set is probably the best overall, but the development of a physical set that can beat Chansey and Clefable (along with Sub sets and HP Fire lures) make it essentially uncounterable. But Kyurem-B has a less than stellar speed tier, an SR weakness, bad typing, and can't beat everything in one set, so it's not really broken.
Late edit: Late XY Mega Heracross was also essentially uncounterable. Most teams resorted to either PDef Acrobatics Gliscor or a suicide Mew burn to beat it. But again, bad speed tier and having trouble even getting in against offense made it more handlable. Basically, things that are savants against one playstyle but are liabilities against others really aren't broken (see Talon and Lop against offense, Hera and Gard against stall). Things get broken when they destroy stall and balanced but having the typing, speed, boosting, or priority to hurt offense.
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Depends on the set. Max HP, Max SpD is prefered for Knock Off + Foul Play sets, though you can still use Max HP, Max Def if your team really needs it.
If you run Metal Burst, 252 HP / 244 SpD / 12 Spe is the way to go
Is vanilla heracross viable or is it bad? I haven't use it
If you mean regular heracross, its perfectly viable. You can run a few different sets, but a Toxic Orb Swords Dance set is probably the best as it demolishes defensive builds.
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